riojazz
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Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
Last week, Frontier Design, the makers of the AlphaTrack and the Tranzport, posted a new driver for the AlphaTrack that supports Windows 7. Go to http://www.frontierdesign.com/Products/AlphaTrack/Downloads There is an optional install for DAW modules, including one for SONAR. The Tranzport, another great little device, has been discontinued, and I wonder what will replace it. At least it works fine under Windows 7 as-is. Either one makes a great addition to a small studio using SONAR.
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2009/11/01 16:50:03
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I had to disable all of the applets that run on the taskbar or it would crash Win 7 (64) when I shut down the machine.
Maybe I'll give the Alphatrack another try. It works fine without the little helper program but I like the added convenience of it.
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2009/11/01 17:11:53
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The Dakota driver 3.15 also crashed with Windows 7RC on shutdown. I hope they update this driver also. I'm waiting for a while to move to Windows 7... XP is dialed in and humming along.
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Tranzport must be installed as Vista compatible, yes?
2009/11/01 17:13:30
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if I am correct, the Tranzport driver needs to be installed Right-click Vista compatible, correct? and then MSCONFIG disable its startup driver. and you must disconnect the Tranzport receiver before system shutdown to avoid a BSOD....?
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Re:Tranzport must be installed as Vista compatible, yes?
2009/11/01 18:37:14
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if I am correct, the Tranzport driver needs to be installed Right-click Vista compatible, correct? and then MSCONFIG disable its startup driver. and you must disconnect the Tranzport receiver before system shutdown to avoid a BSOD....?
For the Tranzport, Win 7 x64. What I did: Unpack the transport driver package onto my desktop (so I can find it). Plug in the receiver. Go into the device manager and "Update driver", select "have disk", browse to the driver on the desktop. Install. I don't recall doing anything besides that, maybe answering yes to a "Trust unsigned" requestor. There is a known issue with x64 where the receiver needs to be unplugged when windows is shutdown, otherwise there is a BSOD. So instead of having it plugged in the back of my PC like it used to be, now I plug it in the front USB. I've had no issues besides that. The Frontier guys say the x64 BSOD thing is something they will not be fixing, just unplug instead. Good luck.
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2009/11/01 22:11:36
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The Dakota driver 3.15 also crashed with Windows 7RC on shutdown. I hope they update this driver also. I'm waiting for a while to move to Windows 7... XP is dialed in and humming along.
This is the Dakota Control Panel applet that is crashing. The fix is to go into msconfig and disable it from the start up sequence. If you need to make a change to the Dakota, open the Control Panel from the Windows 7 control panel and then close it when you are done.
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2009/11/02 01:23:11
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I had installed the Tranzport under Windows 7 32-bit just as Mrfitz said. No problems.
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2009/11/02 09:47:30
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The Dakota driver 3.15 also crashed with Windows 7RC on shutdown. I hope they update this driver also. I'm waiting for a while to move to Windows 7... XP is dialed in and humming along.
This is the Dakota Control Panel applet that is crashing. The fix is to go into msconfig and disable it from the start up sequence.
If you need to make a change to the Dakota, open the Control Panel from the Windows 7 control panel and then close it when you are done.
Thanks Mod Bod!
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2009/12/30 17:41:59
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The Dakota driver 3.15 also crashed with Windows 7RC on shutdown. I hope they update this driver also. I'm waiting for a while to move to Windows 7... XP is dialed in and humming along.
This is the Dakota Control Panel applet that is crashing. The fix is to go into msconfig and disable it from the start up sequence.
If you need to make a change to the Dakota, open the Control Panel from the Windows 7 control panel and then close it when you are done.
Thanks Mod Bod!
Datadog, I'm looking to put a couple Dakota/Montana cards onto a modern motherboard with an i7. That MB you have in your sig has only 2 PCI slots (as far as I can tell from the pictures), also it is a LGA 1366 board and doesn't support either a i7 920 nor 6GB. Since you apparently have multiple PCI devices (2 for the Frontier Designs and at least 1 each for the UD-1 card/s) I'm having to think that you have not updated something in your sig. Do you in fact, have an i7 MB that will support a 920 and at least 3 PCI slots? If so, what is it? Thanks in advance,
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2009/12/30 17:50:32
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Mod Bod
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The Dakota driver 3.15 also crashed with Windows 7RC on shutdown. I hope they update this driver also. I'm waiting for a while to move to Windows 7... XP is dialed in and humming along.
This is the Dakota Control Panel applet that is crashing. The fix is to go into msconfig and disable it from the start up sequence.
If you need to make a change to the Dakota, open the Control Panel from the Windows 7 control panel and then close it when you are done.
Dave, Are you saying that the Vista WDM/ASIO drivers ARE compatible with Win 7? Is that 32- or 64-bit Win 7? However, if it is only the applet that is crashing Win 7 then both sets of drivers probably would work. I asked Frontier about Win-7 comaptibility and they told me that the the Vista package didn't work in Win-7 and that they hadn't made up their minds yet as to whether or not they are going to support the legacy ADAT cards for Win-7. If it is, in fact, only a problem with the applet interface, they would probably be a lot less resistant to keeping up with the OS. Thanks in advance,
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2009/12/30 18:06:35
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Yes, I use the Vista 64 bit drivers. I had to massage them into the O/S somehow (I can't remember what I did). IIRC, it's the installer that doesn't know how to deal with Win 7 64 (through the full install).
I hate to see that they may be deciding to draw the line on support at Vista. Maybe paid support would be a incentive?
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2009/12/30 18:56:57
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Yes, I use the Vista 64 bit drivers. I had to massage them into the O/S somehow (I can't remember what I did). IIRC, it's the installer that doesn't know how to deal with Win 7 64 (through the full install).
I hate to see that they may be deciding to draw the line on support at Vista. Maybe paid support would be a incentive?
Actually, I think it's just that they have tired of the ADAT interface cards. My studio is highly ADAT dependent in that everything (except for most of my synths) are connected via Toslink through the two Apaches. When I found out that they had discontinued the Apache line a couple years ago, I paniced and ended up finding a spare for $650  Anyway, during that panic stricken time, I was on the phone with them a lot and I just got the feeling that digital audio wasn't something they were much interested in (as a hardware developer) any more. I've had my Dakota/Montana for at least 9 years now and I have always been remarkably impressed by how well Frontier has kept up with the driver situation. Anybody reading this that uses Frontier audio gear may want to send them a note letting them know you are out there and would be very appreciative of them supporting Win 7 for the legacy ADAT stuff.
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2009/12/30 19:15:21
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Actually, I think it's just that they have tired of the ADAT interface cards. My studio is highly ADAT dependent in that everything (except for most of my synths) are connected via Toslink through the two Apaches. When I found out that they had discontinued the Apache line a couple years ago, I paniced and ended up finding a spare for $650 Anyway, during that panic stricken time, I was on the phone with them a lot and I just got the feeling that digital audio wasn't something they were much interested in (as a hardware developer) any more. I've had my Dakota/Montana for at least 9 years now and I have always been remarkably impressed by how well Frontier has kept up with the driver situation. Anybody reading this that uses Frontier audio gear may want to send them a note letting them know you are out there and would be very appreciative of them supporting Win 7 for the legacy ADAT stuff. I had a third Tango AD/DA that I sold last year. I happened on some good deals and an Ebay auction at the same time. I wanted two which I bought flat out and I ended up winning an auction too. So I kept the cleanest two units and sold the third. I wish now that I had kept it. If Frontier abandons the soundcard market, I will likely go to RME. They are a little more feature rich in the real time monitor aspect. I'll still be able to use the Tangos.
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2009/12/30 19:29:16
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Actually as you can see from my sig that I made the switch to RME in my main DAW. I do multimedia work as well as straight audio and consequently there are a bunch of non DAW computers in my studio that have audio connectivity provided by the Apaches. Of the interfaces I have 2 Dakotas (one with a Montana) and 2 wavecenters. Back in the days of SONAR 4, I had so many compatibility issues bwtrween the ASUS MB I had (remember the which Northbridge chip actually works with SONAR 4 days), the RME card and SONAR, I ebded up using the Dakota/Montana as my main DAW interface.
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2009/12/31 20:17:20
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I've had my Dakota/Montana for at least 9 years now and I have always been remarkably impressed by how well Frontier has kept up with the driver situation. Anybody reading this that uses Frontier audio gear may want to send them a note letting them know you are out there and would be very appreciative of them supporting Win 7 for the legacy ADAT stuff. Same exact situation here. I think I'll drop them an email.
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2010/01/01 11:14:21
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I ended up using the Dakota/Montana as my main DAW interface. I have a Dakota/Montana and a WavecenterPCI. They are the best interfaces I've ever used. They just sit there and work, with no problems at all. And that's the problem. Why should they spend the time on updating their drivers when they haven't received any money from me in years? I would actually pay for a driver update for the Dakota, I love it that much.
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2010/01/01 11:47:41
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I would actually pay for a driver update for the Dakota, I love it that much. Same here! I'd be willing to pay for Dakota driver updates. The alternative of buying all new HW isn't a good one at this point now that I'm down to one income it's not even possible. It looks like there are still a few MB out there that support PCI and the latest processors like the i7. So, in theory I could do one last big update that includes these awesome cards and be set for about 4 or 5 more years. Push come to shove I could just stick with XP Pro or Vista on the new HW. Well ... It's time to stop dreaming about what I _could_ have and to get out tot he studio to actually use what I _do_ have before the wife and kids wake up. :-) Happy new year everyone!
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2010/01/01 12:20:27
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I'd be willing to pay for Dakota driver updates. If you feel strongly enough, send sent them email at info@frontierdesign.com stating as such; I just did.
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2010/01/01 23:59:13
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I'd be willing to pay for Dakota driver updates.
If you feel strongly enough, send sent them email at info@frontierdesign.com stating as such; I just did.
I've also added a thread in their forum.
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2010/01/02 00:33:47
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The Tranzport, another great little device, has been discontinued that's really a bummer i love mine -- i have the alphatrack as well but use the tranzport to be in a seprate room when tracking acoustic guitar and drums well -- guess i'll use it until I have an OS that doesnt have drivers for it - -sigh
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2010/01/02 11:09:47
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Perhaps Frontier Design will revisit the Tranzport once the allocation of new wireless frequencies settles down?
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2010/01/02 11:39:37
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Mooch4056
The Tranzport, another great little device, has been discontinued
that's really a bummer
i love mine --
i have the alphatrack as well but use the tranzport to be in a seprate room when tracking acoustic guitar and drums
well -- guess i'll use it until I have an OS that doesnt have drivers for it - -sigh
It's sad that a company like M-Audio, who put out what I consider cheap crap products that can't withstand a year of light use, flaky drivers and bad user preset editors, just keep on trucking along making money (on rehashes of the same basic product) but if you build something that doesn't break or become obsolete you have to drop the line because it because it becomes a drain on resources.
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2010/01/02 11:40:53
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riojazz
Perhaps Frontier Design will revisit the Tranzport once the allocation of new wireless frequencies settles down?
Do you think that's the problem? Or is it a function of a limited user base?
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2010/01/02 12:43:00
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Probably both, but it's just a guess. You have two somewhat similar products; one gets a new version, one gets discontinued. The main difference between the two is that the discontinued one is wireless and uses the 'old' 2.4 GHz frequencies. Many of us may already have one (and if you don't, find one and buy it), but that doesn't help future potential users, so I'm hoping they will reconsider and develop a new one with even better range on a different frequency.
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2010/01/02 17:55:19
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Mod Bod, this is what the Central Scrutinizer had to say at the Frontier Design Forum when asked why the Tranzport was discontinued:
"Given the economic downturn and the already long life span of TranzPort, we concluded this was the best time to end manufacturing of TranzPort.
We'll continue to offer customer service on TranzPort through email and our website."
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2010/01/02 18:58:45
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I'm using a Transport on Widows 7 x64 with the v1.5 installer with out any issues.
I was gettin BSOD on shutdown if I forgot to unplug it before this update.
Now everthing is working fine.
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2010/01/03 10:23:56
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Good news.
To which update are you referring? SONAR 8.5.2?
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2015/11/22 23:54:11
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Hello Rio JAzz !! I could not download the Windows 7 Frontier Design AlphaTrack drivers not 'running website !! Your Share it ought to me? Greetings from Argentina and excuse my poor English! 
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Re:Frontier Design AlphaTrack has new Windows 7 drivers and SONAR module
2015/11/24 03:09:04
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Frontierdesign site Off line! Any new?
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