Frustration with arranging

Like many other Sonar users I feel frustrated with arranging in Sonar. Working with MIDI clips can be a constant pain and requires lots of bouncing if you like to record stuff as layers. I tried using Craig Anderton's arranging tip but split tool seems to be broken. Have a look.
 

 
Note that if I select fewer amount of clips and don't scroll down it works ok.

Yeah, don't get me wrong because I'm quite happy with Sonar in general. Some small things just drive me nuts from time to time.
 
I really don't get that kind of intended behavior but that's good to know. Now I can try to do work around. It's just annoying when your creative inspiration dies as you end up fighting with technical solutions.
 
I've seen quite many other similar discussions here in the forum so I hope Cakewalk takes a plunge on this one.  The core features and stability are the most important things in a DAW so I hope that will be the focus on future updates.

I agree.
 
A split should be just that, irrespective of data type.

Splitting a MIDI note?
All the note is is data saying "play this note at this velocity for this length of time."  That data is at one miniscule point in the track.  How could you split it?

azslow3
 
Real MIDI note has no duration, it has "Note On" and at some time later "Note Off". Sonar creates "Note On + duration" which in practice creates more problems then solves.
 

I guess i've only edited MIDI data in Sonar, i assumed it would be the same for all MIDI applications...

Anderton
 
Please review what I wrote about limitations involving splits of MIDI clips. SONAR won't split a MIDI note in the middle because it assumes that if you wanted to play a single note, it should remain unsplit. However I feel that MIDI notes should be split in this context, even if it does create an additional note-one/note-off. I will be trying to convince Cakewalk of this, because I agree this function shouldn't require manual work on MIDI clips to complete the process.
 

Yes I agree but I guess in this case the clips were not split because there was empty tracks amongst the selected area. Usually when I've experienced the situation that there is a MIDI note in between bars it simply vanishes but the split still happens. This has been annoying phenomenon also so it is great if you can talk to Cakewalk about that. :)
 
I think the best solution would be to have options for that behavior. Having two notes in a way that the other doesn't have note off and the other misses note on could be also problematic in some situations. IMO the most logical operation as default would be that the long note gets split in two notes in the exact point of splitting and it's up to user to do the edit there since Sonar can not know what the user is trying to do.
 
-Johannes