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Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/top-ten/1056578-best-eq-plugins-2016-a.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/top-ten/1067968-best-compressor-plugins-2016-a.html
I have all of the TDR and Klanghelm plugins, which do well in this poll.

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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/14 14:31:02 (permalink)
No big surprises from the Gearslutz crowd..

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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/14 14:37:21 (permalink)
well i was surprised by the klanghelm "win"

just a sec

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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/14 14:44:17 (permalink)
Good post.  Thanks clintmartin!  What is interesting is that the favorite compressor is a mere $27.  Very cool.

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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/14 15:37:51 (permalink)
Yeah, MJUC is an excellent compressor. MJUC and Kotelnikov are my most used comps by far. If price wasn't a factor Pro-C2 would probably win, but with most real users price is a factor.
MJUC and Kotelnikov combined are less than half the cost of Pro-C2. They are easy to use, and sound fantastic.

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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 10:59:12 (permalink)
I'm never sure what it is I'm supposed to take away from such polls.
 
Is it that I should go out and buy whatever is most popular among a certain group? I don't select anything else by that criteria. I don't drive a Toyota Camry, for instance (no room for my gear!).
 
Is it that the collective wisdom of a group can discern what's "best" better than an individual could? Call it the "Justin Bieber" theory, e.g. 50 million fans can't be wrong.
 
Should I assume that the poll respondents a) know more about plugins than the rest of us, or that b) have tried out more plugins than we have, and therefore possess information not generally known? Doesn't seem likely, given that none of the products listed are the least bit obscure. 
 
I'm curious; who reads these kinds of lists and then bases subsequent purchase decisions on them?


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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 11:37:33 (permalink)
 With all of the EQs, compressors I have from Waves, IK, and the ones included in DAWs, I should learn how to use them. I made a post about the MJUC some time ago because of the reviews in CM.

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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 12:54:32 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tlw 2016/02/16 18:11:53
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I'm never sure what it is I'm supposed to take away from such polls.
 
Is it that I should go out and buy whatever is most popular among a certain group? I don't select anything else by that criteria. I don't drive a Toyota Camry, for instance (no room for my gear!).

 
I find polls, reviews, comments and the like useful in the other direction.  If hundreds are dissatified I can quickly stay way.  If many are happy, then it might be worth going further and learning about the advantages and disadvantages and how I myself might benefit.  But that's only a starting point.
 
The poll in question has to be weighted in favour of the cheap or free, just because they allow a larger number to participate.  If the best compressor is 1000$ (which it might very well be) but only one voter has ever used it, the compressor won't be high on the list.  It would have been better to label the poll as "Most Popular", not "Best".
 

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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 14:21:39 (permalink)
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... 
I'm curious; who reads these kinds of lists and then bases subsequent purchase decisions on them?

I don't give one little crapola about most lists. Most. The ones I do find potentially useful?
 
The ones that include the "whys"; the ones that are more than mere lists.
 
And that's just a part of the research.
 
But then I'm an old engineer by trade, and I'm capable of overthinking ANYTHING. 
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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 15:03:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tlw 2016/02/16 18:12:36
i usually listen to folks who i know, who actually 'produce' products that pass muster.
 
i haven't heard very many finished mastered recordings from anyone of that bunch at gearslutz, 
so it makes me wonder about the worth of the poll.
 
those guys talk about gear all the time....
so show us the end product, and say 'this is what i used.'
then i'll pay attention.
 

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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 16:04:35 (permalink)
Generally speaking, the "winners" of these polls are there for understandable reasons.  They perform very well, they're easy to use, they don't cause problems, and are well-supported by the devs.  Makes these lists a decent place to start when you're in the market for something new.  
 
If you ever ask for recommendations from forum members, aren't you likely to get a set of answers that resemble these lists anyway?
 
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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 16:14:26 (permalink)
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i haven't heard very many finished mastered recordings from anyone of that bunch at gearslutz...
 
those guys talk about gear all the time....
so show us the end product, and say 'this is what i used.'
then i'll pay attention.
 


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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 16:28:12 (permalink)
I would never go out and blind buy something based on such a poll.  However seeing the high praise of the fairly inexpensive MJUC gives me reason to at least check it out, I'll certainly check out the the lite-demo version to see how it performs.  
 
The site also says it doesn't use copy-protection nonsense.  Major plus in my book as I like installs + reinstalls to be hassle free.  Look forward to checking it out.  
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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 16:29:01 (permalink)
WELL, I guess what i mean is, they generate their own heat there...
but i don't see a lot of practical examples.
 
when you read thru the lists,
they ALL sound awesome.
 
they cant ALL be awesome....
 
or can they?
 
if someone were to compare the most basic sonitus plugs that come with early versions of sonar.....
how much better are these others?
 
i can't find any side by side comparisons,
only anecdotes.

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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 16:46:55 (permalink)
I agree that polls are nonsense. Are we expected to believe that the people who voted for EQ no.1 fairly evaluated EQ's nos. 2 through 10 before making their decision? People choose their favorite compressor of the compressors they've ended up trying for one reason or another, and that's it. I mean they probably have some vague meaning in that some of those people will have ended up using compressors through reading positive reviews and comments on forums, but there are many other factors at play there. Has compressor A been marketed better tha compressor B, and that's why more people know about it?

Personally I prefer reading detailed reviews with sound examples, buts that's just me.

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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 16:56:58 (permalink)
I've said it before if Sonar would update the gui of the sonitus plugins...there would be many people swear they sound better. (those are pretty good plugins.)
I believe that most of those comps in the list are very good, and a "pro" mixer could get "pro" results with any of them.
What happens in these polls is people vote for what they use. MJUC and Kotelnikov are pretty cheap and probably have many users. (Users = Votes).
I love MJUC and Kotelnikov and about 20 others I have, but they don't compare with the beast that is Pro-C2. (I don't own Pro-C2)
I use the compressors that are fast and simple, because I don't think it matters much either way. If I need to shave off a db or two. No one will know which one I used by listening.
 I do like to see the small independent Devs get some credit for quality work.
 
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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 18:15:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby clintmartin 2016/02/15 19:33:54
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i usually listen to folks who i know, who actually 'produce' products that pass muster.
 
i haven't heard very many finished mastered recordings from anyone of that bunch at gearslutz, 
so it makes me wonder about the worth of the poll.
 
those guys talk about gear all the time....
so show us the end product, and say 'this is what i used.'
then i'll pay attention.
 




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So as it turns out, I was already on a similar path.
 
As for the rest of the guys, I can't imagine how they find time to do this stuff if they are to ever accomplish anything and actually learn to use the tools they compare. At some point, one needs to move on and start doing something with those plug-ins...
 
 
 
 

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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 18:37:12 (permalink)
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I've said it before if Sonar would update the gui of the sonitus plugins...there would be many people swear they sound better. (those are pretty good plugins.)
 


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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 19:47:19 (permalink)
Funny but I still reach for Audio Damage Rough Rider when I need a character compressor. I can squeeze my guitar signal like an MXR DynComp. And you can't beat the price!
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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 22:16:32 (permalink)
 
At some point, one needs to move on and start doing something with those plug-ins...

 
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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 22:41:48 (permalink)


 
As for the rest of the guys, I can't imagine how they find time to do this stuff if they are to ever accomplish anything and actually learn to use the tools they compare. At some point, one needs to move on and start doing something with those plug-ins...
 


You mean we're supposed to learn how to USE them??  I thought we were just supposed to BUY them!!
 
Your point is very well made.

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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/15 23:43:04 (permalink)
It's just a fun little thing. It's not meant to be taken seriously...I would prefer to talk about plugins, recording and guitars myself. What amazes me is the time some people spend talking about sports. Those people are crazy.

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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/16 00:04:18 (permalink)
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At some point, one needs to move on and start doing something with those plug-ins...

 
Yikes!  That's me!

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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/16 00:17:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Kamikaze 2016/02/16 00:47:54
All of the plugs on these lists are top notch and exceedingly useful. Although they might vary in both price and transparency/coloration none of them suck. And some of them are dirt cheap...if not free! What on gawd's green earth is there to complain about? Be as skeptical as needed. But none of these recommended plugs would be detrimental to own. And most...if not all...would prove advantageous in your tool kit. No one is forcing you to buy ANY of them. Get a friggin grip.

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Re: Gearslutz Readers choice Top 10 EQs and Compressors. 2016/02/16 00:48:47 (permalink)
I don't follow gear slutz unless I'm searching info on something specific. Recently Sample modelling. I think polls like this just serve as a useful heads up. I'd not heard of MJUC, despite the thread on here which I've read through this morning. I'm not in a position to be spending any money at the moment, new monitors are now the highest priority (being forced to listen in mono or cans). But seeing the cost of a character Compressor (MUJC) at 25Euros, and to think what I spent on BOZ +10 when I had some money. I'm glad to been pointed in that direction. Something for when my paying work picks up again. 

 
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