jerjabs
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General Question
I just bought 2 sticks of 2 gig RAM and put them in my machine. When I boot up windows there is the black DOS-ish screen that seems to calculate system numbers before the light blue Window's into begins. In the black screen it shows that I have 4 gigs of RAM installed, but when I go to my computer in the general tab it shows this: http://i39.tinypic.com/2gwu8t2.jpg Do I have an issue? 3.25?
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Twigman
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 04:29:56
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No you don't.
32 bit OS can address only 4Gb RAM.. - this includes stuff like video RAM
32bit Windows will only see your 4GB less any other physical memory available in other devices.
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jerjabs
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 04:32:38
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ORIGINAL: Twigman
No you don't.
32 bit OS can address only 4Gb RAM.. - this includes stuff like video RAM
32bit Windows will only see your 4GB less any other physical memory available in other devices.
? Have no idea what you mean. Could you do that in laymens terms? So, if I have 2 sticks of GOOD RAM installed correctly, it will only show them as 3.25?
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 04:35:12
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ORIGINAL: jerjabs
Do I have an issue?
You have a pair of underpants as your picture!!! I'd say you do. No, if you have 4GB - that's what it would show Edited to clarify - see below
Mine shows 3.25GB : )
post edited by strikinglyhandsome1 - 2009/05/13 05:57:31
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 05:28:19
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Windows will only let your PC use a total of about 3.25GIG out of that 4. Its a limitation of the way Windows works.
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Twigman
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 05:40:41
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ORIGINAL: strikinglyhandsome1
No, if you have 4GB - that's what it would show
Not true Simply: Say you have a machine with 4GB physical RAM ie 4096Mb and a video card with 512Mb RAM The total RAM in the system is 4608Mb 32 bit OS can address only 2^32 memory addresses which is the equivalent of 4GB worth of addresses but your system has more than that so it allocates the video RAM a higher priority than the system RAM so reports less system RAM available.
post edited by Twigman - 2009/05/13 05:55:54
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strikinglyhandsome1
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 05:47:44
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ORIGINAL: Twigman
ORIGINAL: strikinglyhandsome1
No, if you have 4GB - that's what it would show
Not true
Ok it shows the same on mine and I have 4GB - just to clarify
post edited by strikinglyhandsome1 - 2009/05/13 06:01:45
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Twigman
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 05:48:27
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ORIGINAL: strikinglyhandsome1
ORIGINAL: Twigman
ORIGINAL: strikinglyhandsome1
No, if you have 4GB - that's what it would show
Not true
Ok it shows the same on mine and I have have 4GB - just to clarify
On a 32bit OS?
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strikinglyhandsome1
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 05:51:47
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I'm just saying I've checked my thing and it's the same figure.
I dunno about bits and all that - just saying mine is the same figure.
I'm on XP Pro - that's all I know.
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 05:54:12
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ORIGINAL: strikinglyhandsome1
I'm just saying I've checked my thing and it's the same figure.
I dunno about bits and all that - just saying mine is the same figure.
I'm on XP Pro - that's all I know.
Oh I thought you were saying it shows 4GB. It can't.
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 05:55:45
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No I was saying it shows 3.25GB Just edited that so it's clear - it was a bit unclear. .
post edited by strikinglyhandsome1 - 2009/05/13 06:00:03
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Twigman
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 05:58:20
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ORIGINAL: strikinglyhandsome1
No I was saying it shows 3.25GB
Mine only shows 3GB and I'm flummoxed as to where the rest has gone. I have 512Mb on the GPU but don't know where the other half gig is. 
post edited by Twigman - 2009/05/13 06:00:11
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strikinglyhandsome1
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 05:59:43
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Now we'll get people searching that screen and coming on with different numbers
I have the gig switch thing too but I've not used it
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 06:02:26
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Now we'll get people searching that screen and coming on with different numbers
Aye but I'm wondering if the OP now understands whether or not he is OK.
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CJaysMusic
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 07:23:45
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Bottom line is that if your Ram says 3.25 and you have 4 gigs, then its normal for your pc. Because of other hardware, IE video cards using up the extra ram that isnt counted.
So, what the poster is seeing, is normal
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 07:28:54
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Not true
Simply:
Say you have a machine with 4GB physical RAM ie 4096Mb and a video card with 512Mb RAM
The total RAM in the system is 4608Mb
32 bit OS can address only 2^32 memory addresses which is the equivalent of 4GB worth of addresses but your system has more than that so it allocates the video RAM a higher priority than the system RAM so reports less system RAM available.
Well I'm pretty sure that is not true either! The video card RAM is addressed by the graphic processor and does not appear in the main system RAM. Although there is more total RAM, the system RAM is completely indepedent from the graphics RAM. As I understand it, the OS reserves some of the RAM for it's own usage (i.e. Page files etc.). This is pretty much the same as the old DOS systems being limited to 640k (!!!) unless you used the HIMEM driver.
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 07:31:03
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It also depends on if you have a PCI or PCIe video card. PCIe is more efficient
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 07:43:39
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OMG! I only have 3.25!  That's like opening a Guiness and realizing that 1\4 of the can is Nitrogen!! I wanted 12 full Oz!!!! What a waste!!!!! UGHHH!!!!!
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 07:45:58
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Hey!!!!!, wait a sec. You list 2gigs..  Oh your being sarcastic, arent you....  Sonar 6
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 12:16:45
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Wow...good call CJay! I guess I should update my profile! .....or is my computer lying to me!?
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 12:25:36
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 I have 4 gigs installed and the 3g switch enabled and mine shows 3.46 GB of RAM
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RE: General Question
2009/05/13 16:51:11
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ORIGINAL: Twigman
ORIGINAL: strikinglyhandsome1
No I was saying it shows 3.25GB
Mine only shows 3GB and I'm flummoxed as to where the rest has gone.
I have 512Mb on the GPU but don't know where the other half gig is.
mine is the same and I cannot figure out why. I have 4G of DDR2 and Windows XP Pro only shows 3.0G. I do have a 512M video card, but I didn't think that the video RAM was addressed the same way (just like Mr. Ease says above).
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RE: General Question
2009/05/14 14:43:40
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mine is the same and I cannot figure out why. I have 4G of DDR2 and Windows XP Pro only shows 3.0G. I do have a 512M video card, but I didn't think that the video RAM was addressed the same way (just like Mr. Ease says above).
A 32 bit OS still has to address all of the memory within a system, including installed video ram - this is the case even if the GPU takes care of most of the graphics processing.
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