MelodicJimmy
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Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
With Session Drummer 3, I'd insert a MIDI track and then insert SD3, choose my kit and pattern, then drag the 8th note to the MIDI track and take it from there. Then, if I wanted to extend the pattern in my project, I'd drag the corner until the pattern went as long as I needed it to. It's not quite working like that with AD2. I know how to get the patterns within AD2, but I don't know how to get them into the project and then how to extend them for however long they should go for in the project.
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Keni
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/03 20:14:56
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Simply click-drag it to your midi track!
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sausy1981
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/03 20:19:16
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Drag the midi clip from the AD2 window onto your midi track for Addictive drums, then right click on that clip an turn on groove clip looping.
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MelodicJimmy
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/03 20:31:54
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Thanks! That's different than Session Drummer, right? I don't remember having to enable groove clip looping?
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/03 20:47:32
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correct, the Session Drummer midi files are already clips without you having to rightclick it / enable it...
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MelodicJimmy
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/03 21:09:47
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Ok, great, just got it working.... oh wow is this awesome. INSTANT project enhancement! Just another quick question - I'm inserting AD2 as a track template and obviously all the routing is automatically done that way. Do I need to do any MORE routing between AD2 and Sonar? Also, how do you guys deal with volume? Do you use Sonar or AD2 as a "master" volume control?
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/03 21:36:02
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depends on the style of your music... you may find that the master volume on your AD2 is high enough level, or you can increase the track volume a bit until it peaks, or put a limiter on the track... or add a bus track with a compressor on it and have a SEND on your drum track to the compressed bus for parallel processing...
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/03 22:12:05
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agree with Maarkr, I like to send everything to a drum bus. You can include that in your template. AD2 is very flexible to work with. I like the idea that you can draw your own envelopes, especially on cymbals, which have such a long decay they can get in the way.
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MelodicJimmy
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/03 22:20:04
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Thanks everyone. In the mixer within AD 2, I don't see any tracks for crash or ride cymbals, but I HEAR them in the pattern that I chose. Any info about this? Also, what are the tracks marked, "flexi" supposed to be?
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/03 23:04:43
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MelodicJimmy Thanks everyone. In the mixer within AD 2, I don't see any tracks for crash or ride cymbals, but I HEAR them in the pattern that I chose. Any info about this? Also, what are the tracks marked, "flexi" supposed to be?
The cymbal's are routed to the overhead faders
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/03 23:11:56
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They are there.The interface can be a little bit confusing, but you will get used to it quickly, there's not that much there.Get on the edit page from the button group in the upper right. On the top row of frames there is the kit piece select frame on the left. click the various cymbals to edit them. for mike control, they use the overheads, just like they would in a studio.
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MelodicJimmy
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/04 00:17:09
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Yeah, I realized the cymbals are in the overhead mics after I made my post. Cool! I just set everything up using the tutorials from [I think his name is Andrew] the Irish guy from this forum.... helped SO much! Made my own track template, this is great. Still unclear on two things for whoever feels like answering: what is "flexi"? And, what do you guys use as your main volume controls for the kit? The AD2 interface? I'm asking because the drums are a bit loud for my projects and I'm not sure of the best way to adjust the volume. Not by limiters and compressors, I mean literaly.... volume.
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sausy1981
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/04 08:00:00
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MelodicJimmy Yeah, I realized the cymbals are in the overhead mics after I made my post. Cool! I just set everything up using the tutorials from [I think his name is Andrew] the Irish guy from this forum.... helped SO much! Made my own track template, this is great. Still unclear on two things for whoever feels like answering: what is "flexi"? And, what do you guys use as your main volume controls for the kit? The AD2 interface? I'm asking because the drums are a bit loud for my projects and I'm not sure of the best way to adjust the volume. Not by limiters and compressors, I mean literaly.... volume.
Thanks man. If you watch towards the end of my second video on Addictive Drums I go through gain staging and I just use the faders in addictive drums. Anything else just give me a shout. Andrew
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/04 08:03:18
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Oh yeah the flexi channels are for other kit pieces like hand claps or tambo or even a second snare or extra Tom. I often use a flexi track for a second snare that's triggered from my first snare and I blend the 2 together to make a fuller snare sound.
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MelodicJimmy
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/04 08:22:20
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Oh! Gotcha! Thanks, dude! Awesome video! Helped a ton! Definitely gonna watch the other ones.
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MelodicJimmy
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/04 08:33:42
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Hey Saucy, just one more question if you don't mind - you mentioned adding another snare to one of the flexi tracks and having the first snare trigger it. Would it be a pain in the ass to explain that? Or, is that in one of your other videos?
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/04 09:00:27
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MelodicJimmy Hey Saucy, just one more question if you don't mind - you mentioned adding another snare to one of the flexi tracks and having the first snare trigger it. Would it be a pain in the ass to explain that? Or, is that in one of your other videos?
Hey man, I'm gonna do another video on Addictive Drums in an hour or so and will have it on my YouTube channel later. I will cover this. I am also gonna organize my addictive drums videos into a playlist for easy access so stay tuned.
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MelodicJimmy
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Re: Getting Addictive Drums patterns into Sonar Platinum projects....
2016/01/04 09:01:38
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Oh, cool! Thanks for doing these.... great help.
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