Getting a track recorded without metronome to follow a set tempo map for adding drums

Says it all. I tried audio palette and maybe its just over my head. I recorded an acoustic guitar on one track and a vocal on another--client couldn't cope with a metronome, but now would like to add drums with a metronome. I can't figure the audio palette out. I tried the different options of having the audio follow the project tempo map an having the project tempo map follow the audio. Anybody use this function and good at doing it? I can get lost when reading long complicated explanations-or miss the simplest things though I have been recording professionally for many years. I do appreciate the help.

Hi
I've tried it and can't drag any clip to the timeline as Sonar would not allow me to do so. I'm on latest Sonar Platinum version. If anyone can help, I'd be grateful.
Txs!
Luc.

Have you installed Melodyne? Have you installed the most recent version of Melodyne?
 
1) Without Melodyne you don't have access to this feature
 
2) The older version of Melodyne that came with X3 and the first round of SPlat updates did not have this feature. Only the latest version allows this and only came out in the 6 months or so. I think the current version is Melodyne 4. I'm not sure how exactly it is updated from the previous version (I haven't done it yet) but you'll definitely have to download it from Celemony (through your Celemony account) and perhaps apply a reg code provided by Cakewalk in your store account. Others could provide more definitive info if this is indeed the problem.
 
Cheers.
 
Edit: Ah I see bitman beat me to it and provided some crucial info I was not aware of. That "crashing as a RegionFX" thing does not sound good because that's how you'd NORMALLY use it for pitch correction. I guess I will hold off on installing it myself until I find out what's up with that.
 
I also recall seeing threads stating Mel 4 overwrites Mel 3 (instead of allowing both versions to be used like other VSTs do when you upgrade). That's a shame.
 
Thanks, bitman.

Rob[atSound-Rehab]
not sure if you are right here, guys ?!?
 
tempo detection is build on ARA technology (developed by Celemony) that is now also included in the Sonar core
 
 
I never bothered to update to melodyne 4 since they charge you for it (so I still use melodyne editor 2 which I bought back in the X2 days) and tempo detection works fine ...

Really? - I stand corrected. I thought that was a 4 thing.

brundlefly
+1 for Set measure/Beat At Now (use Shift+M and Tab-to-Transient if prefer working from the keyboard). Melodyne will tend to set double-time tempos and make other errors that can't be corrected with the bundled Essential version, and Audiosnap has issues with placing tempo changes off the beat.
 
And Set Measure/Beat lets you set only as many points as necessary to get acceptable alignment. If the performer has tight timing without a metronome, you might only need to set every 4-8 measures in. I would start with 8, and add more if necessary. Also, you can set any point you want, regardless of whether there's a transient there or whether it's on a beat.

Yup. Much better to get right in there using your ears and musical intellect to get it RIGHT instead of relying on gimicky auto detection tools. It of course takes a little more work but totally worth it. It even saves time in many cases because instead of screwing around with faulty detection and weird convoluted auto detect settings you are just semi mindlessly performing a few simple actions multiple times and it will be ACCURATE (when done right) the first time, every time.
 
For more complex compositions with time sig changes Insert Beat/Measure combined with Insert Meter/Key change (which allows you to insert a new time signature at the Now Time... to do this go to "Project > Insert Meter/Key Change and set the new time sig in the dialog) is a really easy and reliable way to map an entire project.
 
Cheers.

The ability to drag a clip to the timeline was introduced earlier this year (around March, and forget which versions it applied to offhand). If you have one of those versions of SONAR installed and it does not work, be sure that Melodyne is functioning properly (simple test is to create a Region FX).
 
If you do not have a version of SONAR with the extraction capability, the method I posted above does work, but bear in mind that Essential 4 will only work nicely on melodic material, i.e., running a commercial track through Essential will likely fall on its sword with tempo.
 
Brundlefly's method mentioned above of Set Measure/Beat at Now (Shift-M) is probably the quickest method available. Depending how much variation there is on the track, you may need to use that on each beat to get an accurate tempo map (for high variations), although in many instances it can be used every measure or two (when tempo is pretty steady or recorded to a click). One caveat to that is to set the project to something close before working, since the tempo from time zero to the first inserted tempo (done with Shift-M) may get wacky otherwise - and also use Shift-M on the first beat in the song/track.