Getting the sound

Is that a poem?

Is my topic a poem? No but i guess it could be perceived that way.
I find that very interesting

Robert8 said

Seems a sort of bastardized haiku, but his posts are consistent.
I've seen many posters that have a unique style.
Jimmy, are you by chance, a fan of Picasso?
Not poking fun, a serious question. You seem to be of a similar mindset

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I dont know what a basterdized haiku is?
but i do know of Picasso
I'll take that as a compliment

These first two replies have have got me what I"m looking for.
perception

I have a one room project studio. I do everything from the writing
to the final mix/master. Its like being in a cave

I'm single live alone. Build and ride custom choppers. I use 7 different
sets of moniters at my mix desk. I'm evtremly critcal of my own work.
I like using mesa boogie amps and my modifide tele's to record

I have one song that has about 25 tracks that I've probably rerecorded
500 times in about 5 years. If you've ever heard of robert conti I studied
with him a few months

Between the akg3340,studio projectsc1, cad dxl220,akg percetion 300
mxl990 and mxl v67 the mxl v67 sounds best on my voice

All condenser mikes with no eq or comp sound pretty much the same
I say "pretty much" so dont get me wrong but when eqed and comped
sound totaly different.

I 've learned so much in my many years in music but most has been
alone at the desk or with my head in a book on something.

My post was to catagoriez subjects and see who respondid on a
given subject i.e room or ears or gear or whatever

I've read some responces from some of you who are very well put
and informitive, factual etc Not just jiber and oppinion. I want to be a
part of that group who does there homework.

Yes I'm starting to see that I do have a style about me and maybe
now i should research piccaso and i will.

Learn grow share what we learn and know in this feild

for example if you say you use a manley compressor then I envy
you for having one. But if you say You use an art pro channel with
a setting of this and that into this and that to get this

it now tells me your expereince
I can tell you a lot about what dont work

Here is one good example about the "room"
My room has wood and carpet. Stats say carpet is a no no. I agree
but i"m stuk with it for the moment. It has a terable bump at about
160hz when i run a sine wave test

Pro music sounds absolutly stunning in it (no problem with the bump)
when I record vocal that bump just totaly anilates the vocal recording
so I say its a bad room to record vocal. Or so I thought

but it aint the room after all. Many years ago I recorded my vocal
outside the house and had the same problem. I've eaten the mike
and sung from two feet away. still didnt get what I want

I came to this forum looking for answers. Well without getting into
physics or oppinions i found this. its two things

its Your ear and how you use it to acompish the goal. What I'm doing now that seems to be working is this. Sing up to the ceiling over the
mike and gradualy fall into it directly at the end of the phrase

It gives the begining of the phrase space and the end presence

All rooms have a bump somewhere so its how one smoothes the
bumps to make a pleasent ride I.E. final mix

thank you both so much for the reply
Robert8
montezuma

jimmy

Sounds like you are new to Cake.... but not to music.

I'm new to this forum but i"ve been using cakewalk sense it was a doss
based program. wow when pro audio came out i tought that was cool
now im at sonar 8

I've got a bunch of songs. one james tayler type album, one
christian album, and a few blues and r&b type stuff.

I design my own website and put the stuff on it. But after being
so critical of myself i took it all off. it stunk compared to pro
quaility it didn't cut it.

After coming here and joining and reading teniques I find that I'm
not as bad at this as i thought. Thanks to all of you I'm getting more
ready to post some stuff.

I like This forum. Bitflipers info is good stuff as well as others

And yes I'm into good things, good people, and I love to learn

As time allows I'll get my website redsigned and up. Hopefully
it will help others too.

But i've got a question about protecting our songs. My two albums
are copywrited but all else isnt. What role if any does a website
or soundclick play in this matter?

A freind of mine once said He wished someonw thought enough of his work to steal it.

guitarhacker i sent you and email here at cakewalk

After coming here and joining and reading teniques I find that I'm
not as bad at this as i thought. Thanks to all of you I'm getting more
ready to post some stuff.

Hum i guess that does sound like uppity huh? Whooh maybe i need
to watch my words. LOL

What I find here is that the recording and mixed quality of much of
this stuff is better than mine. that has now given me a chance to see
how others are doing. I haven't had that before now. all I had was
A/b my mix against a hit song of someones.

You know big name this and that? I was imbarissed at my songs
poor quility and peformance. There is a wide range of performance
here from great to evrywhere in between.

Thanks to your threads Im going back and see if i can redo some stuff
and post it. I dont know yet untill i work on it if ill get it good enough to
post.

Singing out of tune is my pet pev and pitch fix can only do so much.
My vocals are absolutly crazy sometimes i can nail it and most times
Its like i fell out of a tree. hitting the ground hurts LOL

Here is what gets me. I'll think I've got a killer mix (vocals) and the
next day listen to it and go "yuck" What a whining out of tune sloppy
vocal take! I cry for a minute and start trying again. LOL

It takes guts to post a horibaly out of tune vocal. Ive heard em here
but it makes me think, its like whats the big deal? You got me thinking
though. Maybe I need to find a level of accepence in my own work and
decide whats well whatever it is?

If anything I am moving forward. Man! If i can ever wake up the next
day and not cringe at my vocals I'll think i can acually sing LOL

hey guitar hacker

I've got melodine Ouch about 350 bucks but i dont use it very much.
its a vary good program. it and v vocal both have their advantages
in some ways I'm not a purest as far as sound goes I'll effect and do
anything out the ying yang to get a sound.

But vocals are well hard to make sound good. out of tune is actualy
a good thing in the right place such as bending notes for expression.
Many of the "good" country singers do it extremly well.

actualy it dont even sound out of tune it just sounds good. It might be
that I spend so many hours in front of my studio moniters that my ears
get very picky.

I do understand what you mean though about what a differrence a
person like you and others can do with a "track" amazing aint it?

You know what? there are some very good singers in some churches
they get up and sing and it sounds Well O.K. but if we were honest
we'd say it sounds so steral. Lots of emotion BUT without a good eq
and comp with someone who knows how to use it they dont get fair
presentation.

Like a snowball rolling down a hill it gets bigger.

When an O.K. singer hears a good moniter or headphone mix they
get exited and turn loose and just "sing" We as singers are affected
by what we hear when we perform. when things are good we get into it

When my guitar sounds just right I'll play my rear end off. Well not
really play my rear end off. I do need something to sit on.

jimmy