Getting used to some aspects of Music Creator 6

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Getting used to some aspects of Music Creator 6

I am used to using Sonar 8 producer. I am now using Music Creator,  as I am more of a song writer than a producer.
I cant fined anyway to pan stereo audio tracks independently at different angles. 
 
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    RobertB
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    Re: Getting used to some aspects of Music Creator 6 2014/05/05 00:22:32 (permalink)
    I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to do. Can you elaborate?
    My first guess is that you may be recording stereo tracks that should really be mono.

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    Re: Getting used to some aspects of Music Creator 6 2014/05/07 15:22:13 (permalink)
     Hello Bob,I am stuck at this point. The only info I can fined so far is -Music Creator has a Mono/Stereo button  in each track module in the Track Inspector and Console view. The buttons in the track modules force each track to play in either stereo or mono, but preserve the tracks’ pan positions in the stereo mix. 
     
    I just want to pan a stereo audio track left and right at different angles, any ideas? Thanks, Blake
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    Re: Getting used to some aspects of Music Creator 6 2014/05/07 15:26:26 (permalink)
    The panner in a stereo track is actually a balance control. Use the Channel Tools from SONAR 8 for panning stereo tracks.
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    Re: Getting used to some aspects of Music Creator 6 2014/05/07 19:36:24 (permalink)
    Either you record on two tracks for stereo, one left and one right (panning can happen afterwards in any direction) or you use one track and record stereo on the same track. That is different than having two tracks, one recording the left side and one recording the right side.
    I never use just one track to record stereo output into Sonar. I use two tracks to record stereo.
     

     
     
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    Re: Getting used to some aspects of Music Creator 6 2014/05/07 23:45:19 (permalink)
    Blake, I concur with scook.
    Assuming you have both programs installed on the same machine, Channel Tools should be available for use in MC6.
    I just tried it in MC5. Just insert it in the FX bin of your stereo track.
    I suspect that you may have been using the Channel Tools before( in S8), as the "angle" reference is somewhat unique. Standard track panning uses a percentage reference.
    For conventional instruments, I record to two mono tracks as spacealf suggests.
    However, most soft synths have a stereo output, and the Channel Tools are your ace in the hole.
    I don't see that MC5 has the ability to split a stereo track into two mono tracks. I'm guessing that MC6 is the same.
    This is essentially what Channel Tools does to allow the left and right channels to be panned independently of each other.

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    Re: Getting used to some aspects of Music Creator 6 2014/05/08 04:52:31 (permalink)
    Yes, I have the Channel tool In my VST folder from Sonar 8.5, did not think of that. Will try that out. 
    Thanks, Blake
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    Re: Getting used to some aspects of Music Creator 6 2014/05/09 07:27:54 (permalink)
    In reality there are very few instruments that NEED to be stereo.  So set up and record in MONO and your problem should become a non-issue.  Panning a mono track is straightforward.
     
    If the track is truly stereo, and needs to be stereo, by definition, and common sense, it needs to be centered so that both the left and right channels of the track are heard. If you pan it, you are losing one half of the material, and in the process of panning it, defeating the entire reason for having a stereo track in the first place.
     
    For example, In some of my music I have a true stereo piano and true stereo B3 organs with Leslie cabs that were mic'd in stereo....(when you look at the wave, you can literally see differences in the 2 stereo track waves)  those tracks ALWAYS go straight up the center with the lead vox and the drums and the bass.

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    Re: Getting used to some aspects of Music Creator 6 2014/05/10 06:55:44 (permalink)
    Ok, that makes sense. I read so much about keeping bass centered and things like piano panned hard left and right.
    So if im understanding correctly, one way for me to do things is to keep everything of bass mono, and things like lead synths and guitars stereo, and centered. Thanks, Blake 
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