Getting your music in the right hands????

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2010/01/31 17:10:04 (permalink)

Getting your music in the right hands????

So after years of writing decent songs, I think I have come up with a something special in a song. What advice do the people here have for that situation? Do you just throw it up on the web (ie. Soundclick...) and hope for the best???? Or is there a more tactical and intelligent way to go about this?

I do have one contact in the biz that I am hoping will take the time to give this a listen, but I want to give this song the best effort I can. Thank you for taking the time to offer advice.  



 
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    Guitarhacker
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    Re:Getting your music in the right hands???? 2010/01/31 18:12:27 (permalink)
    Plugging a song takes time and effort.  I am a member of TAXI  ( www.taxi.com ) and recommend it. I had the opportunity to go to their recent convention in LA and sat down with hit songwriter Jason Blume for a few minutes. He reviewed my songs (2) and then gave me some good advise. The entire weekend was a blast and a great learning experience.

    Here's the deal as I see it. Your songs have to be the best of the best of the best to even get listened to, let alone get a cut. In country for example... there are 20,000 good songwriters in Nashville, all looking for that cut, that chance to get one song on the limited number of projects released by the majors each year..... eliminate half the cuts since more artists are writing and co-writing their own stuff... and the result is.... only the stellar tunes get listened to..... and fewer get cut.

    BUT... you'll never get a cut if you don't work at it. Join TAXI...or at least consider it. I met lots of really talented musicians and writers in LA..... submit your music to other online libraries..  www.pumpaudio.com is one.... I ahve a few tunes with them... it took 3 trys to get "greenlighted" to send my material.

    The bar is high...and getting higher each passing month. The quality of the writers and the production from today's home project studio's is unbelievably good.

    Don't submit a demo. Plain and simple..... it has to be broadcast quality production to get consideration. Nothing less will do. If you are submitting a country song, the singer should sound country and close in tonal quality to the singer you are plugging to.

    Posting on soundclick is a nice ego stroke....let the caker's listen and comment. You will get good advice on how to improve all aspects of the tune. I have never heard of anyone getting a publishing/record deal from a soundclick posting however.  I have gotten a few scam letters from people trying to use my "good music" to rip me off..... so no... soundclick won't get it going.

    Do post your song and let us hear it. I do recommend protecting it with some form of legitimate protection..... I use Songuard, others use the US copyright office wich can be very expensive. I have posted several tunes with no copyright protection since the very act of posting it on soundclick will serve as a copyright... it establishes that you posted this song on a certain date and exactly what it sounds like. Soundclick keeps those records. Nobody ever stole or tried to steal my tunes..... kinda disappointing .... don't ya think?

    You can also buy the Songwriter's Market Guide and look through it fro publishers and artists that are in teh same genre and style and make contact and submit to them directly. Using the guide is record keeping intensive.... well, actually this whole business is.

    Good luck...I hope this helps.

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    Re:Getting your music in the right hands???? 2010/02/01 12:37:50 (permalink)
    Just "throwing it up" won't get you anywhere. You have to promote it and to the right people. It's like hoping that some A&R guy happens into the bar you're playing in tonight.

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    Re:Getting your music in the right hands???? 2010/02/01 19:12:57 (permalink)
    im using songlink. any tipsheet is worth subscribing to.

    songlink and taxi are just a few. songlink is 400 US / year or so, but i mean even if you get one song on a nobody's CD you're bound to be compensated for that. good luck! Here's to pitching songs, if you ever want to collaborate on some tunes take a listen and shoot me an email!


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    Re:Getting your music in the right hands???? 2010/02/04 01:56:15 (permalink)
    Thank you to all who posted comments here. I really really appreciate the time and effort you took to post suggestions. This is exactly what I was hoping to find/learn.

    Currently my budget does not allow me to subscribe to services like songlink or taxi. I am looking for that to change very soon, but until then,  I will have to find another way.

    I hope to have the SR form and material mailed in tomorrow. After that, I want to move on this song. Do something...

    Thank You!!!

     
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    Re:Getting your music in the right hands???? 2010/02/04 08:49:11 (permalink)
    Great info guys, thanks.

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    Re:Getting your music in the right hands???? 2010/02/04 09:09:52 (permalink)
    So.... go to the local book store. Ask the clerk to help you find: The 2010 Songwriter's Market Guide. (or whatever version is the latest)  It will set you back about $25 (just a reasonable guess)

    In it you will find thousands of listings under different categories. Publisher, record companies, managers, booking agents, and so on.

    Each category...such as publishers will typically list hundreds of companies that deal with music publishing. Information will include the artists and songs they have had some sort of hand in helping. It also lists contact info and names with email & phone, and address to contact them. Most importantly, it tells you what genre they like to work with. If you write country, you sure don't wanna waste time contacting a hip hop publishing company.

    You'll need to comb through the chapters and the listings to find the ones that seem most probably to accepting your music. You have a better chance with the smaller "mom & pop" publishers than the industry leaders.


    A word of warning: There are sharks in those listings too. They will send a glowing letter back telling you how much they love the music and have an artist ready to record it...and all the money that will flow in........then they pop the news that your demo is not good enough to send to the artist and it will cost you only $xxxx.00 to get it demo'd better for the artist......don't fall for it...... enough said....!

    Or the one I love..... I got a letter from a "publisher" who told me that he was putting together a double album (back in the days of records) of the "Best unknown songwriters from Nashville" and I could have 2 spots on that album, that was going to be sent to hundreds of radio stations across this fair land...... for the low low price of only $2500 per slot. And that was back in the day when $2500 was actually worth something. SCAM!

    But don't let that stop you.... know they are out there and move ahead.  I did have 13 songs signed by publishers (legitimate ones) but they never published the songs...... the contracts expired and I got the songs back. That's also very likely to happen.

    You are very likely to have your songs picked up by a publisher in that manner..... and that publisher is likely to be a smaller publisher, that will either set on the song and do nothing with it, or get it to a local band who might record it and cut about 1000 CD's to sell at gigs....either way... you won't make any money.

    The bigger publishers that can actually get the song to a major artist are much harder to place with..... as they are very discriminating about the songs they sign..... a very high bar. They will only sign stellar songs.

    Expect lots of rejections and "no's"... if they even bother to give you any reply at all...... that the business we're in.

    Get the book...and good luck.

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