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Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
Hey! Anyone out there using Gobbler yet? Any advantages of using Gobbler compared to have your Cakewalk Projects folder on other services like Gdrive etc. Gobbler is quite expansive in comparasion. While 50Gb costs 8USD/month 100Gb costs 4.99USD/month on Gdrive. /Mats
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/10/01 05:21:35
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One advantage I can think of is the auto organisation by the Gobbler integration. Select project and backup or send, no need to worry about the nitty gritty of which files need to go. Sure you can just upload the project folder via another service but then all the unused stuff goes as well.
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/10/01 05:45:46
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I installed Gobbler about a year ago. It's a great concept. You have all your project files perfectly organized. Unfortunately I can't use it because the uploading time for files to back up is extreeeeeeemly long. It takes hours and hours to upload a project file of an average project (let's say 1 GB) I've contacted customer service (great service b.t.w.) and they said the servers are too far away from my location. So, for us europeans or british it's not a solution I believe. Maybe someone has different experiences...?
post edited by Noisy Neighbour - 2013/11/30 18:50:02
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/10/01 05:54:21
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Think I might just place my Cakewalk Projects folder on my Gdrive and upgrade that one to larger size instead. /M
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/10/01 06:26:16
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At first glance, I find Drop Box to be 'more' handy as I work on the same project at 2 different locations. Having said that, im probably wrong and should read the finer details on Gobbler.
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/10/01 07:06:01
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I do not recommend Google drive. I tried this myself recently. All my files uploaded fine, but it will only let you download 2 gb at a time, and won't help you know which files were already downloaded to essily break up your downloads into 2-gb chunks. I found it nearly impossibilble to work with for larger projects.
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/10/01 07:44:26
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Aha, that is an interesting point you have there. You sure that problem exist for the paid version of Gdrive? Good info. I will dig some more. /M
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/10/01 07:57:58
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☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2013/11/27 15:45:53
If you are willing to manually manage your project uploads and downloads then gdrive and dropbox are ok. Keep in mind however that a disadvantage of google stuff is there is zero support. If you are running a studio and something goes wrong you are on your own.
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/10/01 08:58:34
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metz Aha, that is an interesting point you have there. You sure that problem exist for the paid version of Gdrive? Good info. I will dig some more.
I have a paid G-drive account. This is a known issue that you will easily find more info if you google it. I only learned about it after bought a monthly subscription as it never occurred to me there would be such a restriction. I am curious to learn more about Gobbler as I am more than willing to pay a but more for a system if it works efficiently.
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/10/01 09:53:04
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Just curious about how long you have to keep the session/Sonar actually open to back things up? I assume the app must be open to upload to Gobbler, and I assume it'd be a bad idea to actually be working when uploading. I manually backup to a hardrive at the end of the night. Doesn't take much time to do so, and I can safely leave my PC and have it move things over. Simple enough. But the storage space is often an issue as sessions grow in size and I am becoming busier and busier.
I have a Dropbox account for working with clients, does Gobbler allow us to mixdown and upload mixes automatically in some way? What about sharing them among selected email addresses?
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/10/01 09:59:33
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I've been using dropbox for this for about a year and I've not had any problems but I do have a fast fiber connection at home that helps with services like this. I've looked at Gobbler and might give it a try but not sure it will offer me anything more than I already have.
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/10/01 10:28:32
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I am backing up my X3 test project as I'm working on it and writing this post. the project is about 200 MB and the upload speed is around 110 KB/s (slow, usually my download speed is a lot faster than this) I can work on the project with Gobbler auto backup set, without problems. Every now and then Gobbler resumes the upload to free resources depending on the activities. I also can close the Gobbler application and it keeps backing up. I keep you updated about the results later
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/10/01 11:15:00
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...when the back up is done there's a notification message popping up saying that it's complete.... I kept on working on the project and every time I made a save the back up continued. I Like it. The next test will be, moving the project from my hard drive, and restore it from Gobbler to see how long it takes and if it will be intact... ... later
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/10/01 11:54:41
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The most efficient/convenient feature of integrated Gobbler, that I plan to use, is sharing projects over the net (notwithstanding upload/download time). I don't plan on backing up or saving my projects on the net/cloud. It's all about sharing/collaborating on a project for me. Kind regards, Living Room Rocker
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/26 05:28:56
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☄ Helpfulby dubdisciple 2013/11/26 13:48:40
HI All, Nice to meet you! I am the CEO of Gobbler and I thought I would weigh in here. Hi Steve,
Gobbler is very different from Dropbox. The only thing we really have in common is that we both use Amazon web services.
That's where the similarities end. Gobbler is designed from the ground up to be an application for pro-audio. I'll list some of our major differences.
1) Dropbox requires you to put all of the files you'd like to back up in the "Dropbox" folder on your main computer. Gobbler will back projects up from any connected device (an external drive a thumb drive, a firewire drive ect)
2) With Gobbler you can send projects of any size to any of your collaborators. Even when they are located on an external drive (read you don't have to move them to your main hard drive to send them)
3) Gobbler helps organize all of your projects no matter where they are stored. Dropbox is a folder on your drive you can save things in but it's up to you to organize them.
4) Dropbox runs constantly in the background and we check to see if you are recording or using a DAW. If we detect this we sleep so we do not get in the way of your recording. 5) Gobbler has a feature called Gobbler collect which makes Gobbler better able to ensure your project is properly backed up. Say for example your X3 project file is located on Drive A and your audio files are on Drive B. You do not have to do a save collect to back up or send your project. Gobbler will collect it all in the cloud there by keeping your local organizational structure. 6) Gobbler's security model is also more robust. We encrypt your data on the client side.
We are a different piece of software and the only one on the market designed for pro-audio.
hope this answers your question
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/26 05:44:31
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/26 11:04:41
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fooman ...I manually backup to a hardrive at the end of the night. Doesn't take much time to do so, and I can safely leave my PC and have it move things over. Simple enough. But the storage space is often an issue as sessions grow in size and I am becoming busier and busier.
I have a Dropbox account for working with clients, does Gobbler allow us to mixdown and upload mixes automatically in some way? What about sharing them among selected email addresses?
I work in a similar manner. I first tried Gobbler on my home office computer, but quickly removed it after seeing .gobbler everywhere I looked. I don't like the idea of "the cloud" gobbling up all the files on my computer. Yes I know you can supposedly select the files that are "gobbled, but I have a consulting company and have clients sensitive information on it. Granted I have a separate computer for music production but I have two separate 3 TB external drives, one connected to that computer and another on my home network. Like you, I back up at the end of the day to both drives. (Belt and suspender guy). I also use Dropbox to share music files, etc. Walt
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/26 13:46:45
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I always feel funny playing cheerleader, but there have been a couple Gobbler related posts lately, so let me chime in. I pestered the snot out of the Gobbler folks when they released it for Mac... I wanted my Windoze version. When they released a Winders version I wanted Sonar integration... they probably don't like me much, but I now have Sonar integration, so I'm happy<G>! I do not know if I was the first Sonar user to try Gobbler, but I was a very early adopter. There have been a couple minor hiccups along the way, but I can say, with complete confidence, that I am a very happy user! I can't imagine not using Gobbler for my studio backups. It's just too easy... and how often does one make that observation?
With the release of X3 there is a minor problem with projects being backed up again if you re-save them in X3. You could, I suppose, look at this as an extra layer of version control, but since Gobbler already handles versioning it probably isn't necessary. Although the first time I need to re-open a project in X2 I guess I'll have to eat some crow. I don't, presently, do a lot of transfers, but I think that's one of the cooler features. Actually, all the features are cool - automated backups, version control, transfers, de-duplicating, it's all really useful. On top of that I have found the Gobbler developers to be very helpful. I can't recommend Gobbler highly enough.
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/26 13:51:16
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I confess I have not really used gobbler other than to test how it works. After seeing Chris' post, I think I need to look a little more deeply. I use dropbox but it is certainly not optimized for pro audio. It is raw storage with a few minor tricks. Not problem with that for me, but Gobbler seems like a more effective means of backing up and collaborating.
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/26 13:52:20
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> I don't like the idea of "the cloud" gobbling up all the files on my computer. Agreed, and the Dropbox app is a heavy bit of bloatware if ever I've seen it. First time you install it, it will upload all your docs to the cloud without asking you (if you don't do the custom install). An NSA persons dream. Buy your own servers that's what I say ! :) ... and for the rest I guess there is gobbler.
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/26 15:29:26
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☄ Helpfulby drummaman 2013/12/01 14:21:04
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fooman ...I manually backup to a hardrive at the end of the night. Doesn't take much time to do so, and I can safely leave my PC and have it move things over. Simple enough. But the storage space is often an issue as sessions grow in size and I am becoming busier and busier.
I have a Dropbox account for working with clients, does Gobbler allow us to mixdown and upload mixes automatically in some way? What about sharing them among selected email addresses?
I work in a similar manner. I first tried Gobbler on my home office computer, but quickly removed it after seeing .gobbler everywhere I looked. I don't like the idea of "the cloud" gobbling up all the files on my computer. Yes I know you can supposedly select the files that are "gobbled, but I have a consulting company and have clients sensitive information on it. Granted I have a separate computer for music production but I have two separate 3 TB external drives, one connected to that computer and another on my home network. Like you, I back up at the end of the day to both drives. (Belt and suspender guy). I also use Dropbox to share music files, etc. Walt
Hi Walt! I wanted to address your concerns about the .gobbler file. This is something that is actually written by the cakewalk application. The file gives Gobbler assistance to make sure your project is always accurately backed up. Gobbler has a feature called Gobbler Collect which effectively gives you a virtual collect feature. So instead of having to do actual save collects to send things to the cloud Gobbler can do it virtually this eliminating having unnecessary redundant folders on your desktop and eliminating the possibility that something does not get set to the cloud. WRT what gets sent to the cloud we are VERY VERY strict with our about everything being Opt-in and for that matter, none of your files get set to the cloud without you explicitly letting Gobbler do so. We are company built by creatives for creatives and are backed by some of the biggest artists in the world. (all of whom use Gobbler in their workflows) a breach of privacy or security would be a massive failure for us. As such we have many layers of security and privacy controls to ensure this. We one of very few cloud companies which actually encrypts your data on the client side to that even a man in the middle attack on your data would be rendered useless. Granted trust is only built over time. But we have been around for more then three years and have had no breaches of privacy and security. All the best! Chris
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/26 16:33:25
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You've got my trust, Chris.
One recent thing I noticed that I thought was a win was this...
I work in very large projects in which I record whole concerts. I copy and pasted all the tracks for one song into a new project. The new project was 8 gb because the clips referenced the full wave files for the concert. . Most of that data had already been backed up. Gobbler did not redundantly back up those wave files. It only uploaded the new stuff.
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/26 16:49:45
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gswitz You've got my trust, Chris.
One recent thing I noticed that I thought was a win was this...
I work in very large projects in which I record whole concerts. I copy and pasted all the tracks for one song into a new project. The new project was 8 gb because the clips referenced the full wave files for the concert. . Most of that data had already been backed up. Gobbler did not redundantly back up those wave files. It only uploaded the new stuff.
Oh cool! Yeah that is one of the neat things about Gobbler we really work hard to eliminate sending redundant data. Sounds like you are working with a lot of data. We have a new uploader in beta right now that we are expecting to 2x the speed of uploads. It should be going public very shortly. All the Chris
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/26 17:42:27
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If you want backup you data files try this. 250 Gb for 92.5$ over 1 year. This is programs have more functions. Think about it: http://www.mypcbackup.com/Don`t buy it after registration. Wait 10 days or... 15 and after:
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/26 19:47:30
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I have used StartLogic for 7+ years now, and their " Pro" option includes: Unlimited Bandwidth Unlimited Disk Space Unlimited Email Accounts Unlimited Domains A domain costs ~$10 per year, and the "Pro" plan is $5.99/month for the first year (after that is $7.49/month, or as low as $5.49/month if you extend 3 years at a time). The only caveat is that they benchmark bandwidth and disk space, so may limit these if you get too crazy with it. If you do not load an index file to a domain, nothing can be accessed without an explicit link to files internally. I posted this thread for sharke yesterday about ways to use a personal domain as a backup option. Edit: LRR's post about collaboration is a good one. Using the net for collaboration is great, but as "backup" is not the best alternative.
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/26 19:52:43
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Microtonic If you want backup you data files try this. 250 Gb for 92.5$ over 1 year. This is programs have more functions.
Think about it:
Don`t buy it after registration. Wait 10 days or... 15 and after:

These are all great services. Gobbler is really meant to be a active workflow tool. Monitoring your projects and versioning them so you can roll back at any time. Giving you super fast and reliable ways to transfer unlimited size projects to your collaborators. For long term archival storage there are great products out there which will allow you to dump data at a low price and we highly recommend them if that is the stated purpose. Our $4 per month plan gives you unlimited send capabilities. It might be worth trying Gobbler (as we do have a free version) and see if the improvements we have made over some of these services is advantageous. You can always use Gobbler for free. It's always good to have as many arrows in your creative quiver as possible. All the best! Chris
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/29 14:08:37
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O.K. - How about this scenerio: I use You Send It (Now called HighTail) to upload files that customers can then download. I see on the Gobbler site that you can transfer files to clients who are not Gobbler customers. Does this work similar to Hightail's "SEND" (upload files & send a link to client) function? That is the feature I would use the most... Kudos, MG
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/29 16:15:30
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☄ Helpfulby drummaman 2013/12/01 14:36:18
drummaman O.K. - How about this scenerio: I use You Send It (Now called HighTail) to upload files that customers can then download. I see on the Gobbler site that you can transfer files to clients who are not Gobbler customers. Does this work similar to Hightail's "SEND" (upload files & send a link to client) function? That is the feature I would use the most... Kudos, MG
Not a problem with Gobbler. There is a "send public link" check box you can select when sending files and the receiving party can download files sent with out having a Gobbler account or having to sign up for Gobbler. All the best! Chris
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/29 22:09:32
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I'm having a bit of trouble with Gobbler. Upload and backup times are crazy slow-it took nearly 3 hours to send a 1 gig Sonar file to a client. That said, I've been in contact with tech support and they have been really great! Still trying to solve the issue but it's nice to work with a company that wants to solve my problem and do it in a friendly, helpful way. I love the idea of Gobbler but at the speeds I'm getting it's impracticable for me. I hope it gets resolved.
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Re: Gobbler vs Gdrive/Dropbox?
2013/11/30 19:00:17
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southpaw3473 I'm having a bit of trouble with Gobbler. Upload and backup times are crazy slow-it took nearly 3 hours to send a 1 gig Sonar file to a client. That said, I've been in contact with tech support and they have been really great! Still trying to solve the issue but it's nice to work with a company that wants to solve my problem and do it in a friendly, helpful way. I love the idea of Gobbler but at the speeds I'm getting it's impracticable for me. I hope it gets resolved.
Same here, southpaw3473 (See my earlier post on this thread from October 01, 13 11:45 AM) I'm uploading a 1Gig project at the moment. After 1 hour it is at 23%, pausing, encrypting, reduping and resuming in frequent intervals. From my experience, Gobbler works really fast once I have the complete project uploaded and keep on working on it. Gobbler backs up after every save in Sonar. For me the best way to use it, is to have it in new projects right from scratch. I haven't send files with Gobbler yet nor have I downloaded a file yet, so I can't tell about the speed, but why should a download run faster than an upload... As long as the backed up files stay intact I'm ok with using Gobbler. If the back up speed would speed up I would be happy to use Gobbler. Cheers,
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