Voda La Void
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Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
Hey Cakewalkers, I have been trying to get this one on SoundClick for some time now. It's long, but it doesn't sit still, changes and evolves - and I'm getting some really positive feedback on this one. The voicemail/music sequence at the end really seals it - it's my kids, and it works really well, and is funny too. Heavily Tool influenced, this one is, as is a lot of my music on this project - though I'm not comparing myself to that talent, I know better. Any feedback would be appreciated. As soon as I get home from work, I'll return the favor tonight, I promise. Thanks for listening. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=965709 Or.. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Voda-La-Void/595674813776699?id=595674813776699&sk=app_184781670305
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Voda La Void
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
2014/01/13 17:10:03
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<Deleted> Sorry, was having problems posting before I realized what was wrong.
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
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☄ Helpfulby Voda La Void 2014/01/14 10:17:46
I don't think you are able to delete a whole thread, just edit your posts.
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Voda La Void
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
2014/01/14 07:29:38
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Thank you. When I have time, I'll try to figure this out. I listened to several songs on here this morning and all are using simple links so I'm not sure why mine would not post - just keeps disappearing. I realize they are combating spam, but I don't understand the method here at all. I tried to the link to the SoundClick page, and then the Facebook page, neither would work. Oh well...for a radio tech, I sure am IP challenged...
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
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☄ Helpfulby Voda La Void 2014/01/14 12:42:05
You need 25 posts before you can post a link. Should work now, you've got 26.
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Voda La Void
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
2014/01/14 12:42:59
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Thank you. Finally got it figured out.
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
2014/01/14 14:41:59
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Hi Tim, welcome to the forum. If you don't mind comparisons, your voice reminded me of that Filter song "Hey, man, nice shot, nice shot man". It was one of my favorite songs of the 90's. Your recording is quite heavy, which shows good engineering skills for this type of music. As you say, there are a number of different movements in the song which keeps it moving. However, I though you missed an opportunity to change the mood when you went to the acoustic section. The overall volume remained loud, and if you had brought the acoustics down a few db's, it would have made for a dramatic change of pace. Otherwise, the wall of sound that you created is somewhat unremitting until the very end of the song where you do change it up a bit. The only other thing I noticed was that the song had little dynamics, and less compression would allow it to breathe a bit more without sacrificing the "heaviness". Not all hard rock or metal songs need to be flat-lined. All in all, this is a good recording that could easily be a gem with a few tweaks.
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Voda La Void
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
2014/01/14 21:07:12
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Thank you Lynn. No, I don't mind the comparison at all. Actually, I've recently discovered an upper register that I haven't shared yet. I need more practice before I lay tracks with it. Singing along with Mars Volta songs on my way to work is really working out, ha ha! Man, I'm not sure how to engineer that acoustic section you're talking about. There is so much going on there - a very busy bass line, 4 tracks of that harmonized muffled electric guitar plucky thingy, the background solo, the acoustic picking and then the telephone-vocal...I just have no idea how to get all that crammed together without it sounding like you said. Maybe it's too much...I think I'm too damn proud of those notes to sacrifice them by dropping them in the mix. But...here's the real bummer...it's set it stone. My studio was robbed and I didn't back my stuff up soon enough so the only version of that song I have as a project file is so old I would have to re-record most of the material, and I just don't have it in me to do it. Thanks so much though, I do agree with ya on it.
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
2014/01/15 03:27:47
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I'm not usually into metal, I liked this. Reminded me of tool.
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
2014/01/15 08:38:56
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Not a big metal fan, but I do like this quite a lot overall. The acoustic guitar is too loud/harsh in that section for me - would have sounded better with a much mellower vibe/change of pace for me. Vocals are a bit buried, but I think that about a lot of songs like this, so that's probably just me, never really understood the concept of the vocalist singing his heart out when no-one can understand it, and wow......it's still going.......... I like to do everyone the service of listening to the whole piece, but it's getting a bit old by 8:00.... there's nore ? Ok then, but I really think you could have wrapped it up by now........phew, finally. ;)
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Voda La Void
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
2014/01/15 13:54:46
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Fair enough, Paulo. I'm disappointed, but I'm inclined to agree somewhat. I thoroughly enjoy long songs that take you on a journey, but that seems to be a minority of folks overall in the music scene - particularly outside of what I'm calling "progressive" rock or metal. I could be wrong, though, I do tend to live in a bubble. Out of curiosity, do you ever listen to Tool? Such as Aenema? That's a perfect example of a metal song that goes on and on...but of course, we fans just love that about it. It's also very cool and maybe they change it up enough and I'm just not succeeding in that area. Certainly I'm not providing percussive interest to the likes of Danny Carey. Thanks for listening.
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
2014/01/15 16:39:38
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Voda La Void Fair enough, Paulo. I'm disappointed, but I'm inclined to agree somewhat. I thoroughly enjoy long songs that take you on a journey, but that seems to be a minority of folks overall in the music scene - particularly outside of what I'm calling "progressive" rock or metal. I could be wrong, though, I do tend to live in a bubble. Out of curiosity, do you ever listen to Tool? Such as Aenema? That's a perfect example of a metal song that goes on and on...but of course, we fans just love that about it. It's also very cool and maybe they change it up enough and I'm just not succeeding in that area. Certainly I'm not providing percussive interest to the likes of Danny Carey. Thanks for listening.
No need to feel disappointed, I just listen and say how I hear it - it's just my opinion as a listener and someone who's not a particular fan / officiando of the genre, it doesn't mean I'm right and I'm certainly no kind of expert. There's lots to like about it, but some things that don't quite do it for me personally. I think it's important to say things like that rather than just blow smoke up your ass. (I spelt it that way for you, it's arse where I come from!) My intention was to be constructive not to put you down. Maybe I shouldn't listen to stuff that I'm not that into as I will obviously lack some understanding of the genre, but I like to at least try to be open-minded and take each song I listen to on merit rather than think.....oh it's metal/prog, I don't like that so I won't bother listening. No, I don't listen to the bands you mention, like I said it's not really my genre. Something that I do like that might also appeal to you though .......... http://distant-towers.com/hear.htmCheck the out when you have time - I'd be surprised if you didn't find something you like there.
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
2014/01/15 17:31:27
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I like this though it's not the genre I usually listen to apart from NiN (if any similarities). The mix and arrangement is awesome, especially when the acoustic guitar and first filtered vocal come about. Your vocal is really something. Great work indeed!
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
2014/01/15 20:48:26
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Hey, Tim, Very cool modern rocker with great vocals and a nice punchy mix! I'm definitely getting a Tool or maybe even Chevelle vibe from it. Nice thick guitars, and I like the acoustic section with the telephone vocals and the heavily verbed electric melody line in the background. You mentioned that you lost the newest project file for this, but maybe you could use a few mastering tricks on the wav file to EQ out a touch of only the acoustic guitar frequencies, and maybe even the overall track volume in some of the "quieter" parts to give it a bit more dynamics, as some of the posts above mentioned. Of course, that's all subject to personal tastes, and the songs rocks just as it is. I really like the voiceover section with the kids and the keyboard backing pad at the end, it added another interesting element and focal point to keep interest during a long song. Great song, man, keep 'em coming! Bob
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
2014/01/15 21:11:39
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Well this is certainly different... It's an interesting choice for that snare with this type of music. Passionate vocal performance.
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
2014/01/16 16:01:46
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I like this one too. Tool-ish for sure, but that is certainly not a bad thing. Nice singing. I kind of thought the guitars (electrics in the main parts) sound a little distant, or muffled or something. Maybe they just need to be brought up in the mix a bit? The dirty-ness is working, maybe just add a little mid or upper mids? Otherwise a very cool song, and an ambitious project--always to be admired.
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
2014/01/16 20:53:57
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I enjoyed this, Voda. We could nitpick the mix, but I'd rather compliment you on your songwriting. I really liked the different things going on in this, and I liked the acoustic break. Very good vocal performance. I like your style. I'd like to hear more from you. :)
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Re: Gods and Fathers by Voda La Void - Progressive Rock/Metal type thing...
2014/01/16 21:21:10
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paulo Maybe I shouldn't listen to stuff that I'm not that into as I will obviously lack some understanding of the genre, but I like to at least try to be open-minded and take each song I listen to on merit rather than think.....oh it's metal/prog, I don't like that so I won't bother listening.
Nah, not at all. I always listen and comment on things outside of the genres I identify with. That's how I grew up on Beatles and Floyd during the Metallica revolution of my teens. Music is music, and any song of any style can be good. For me, it's about melody and good musicianship. I've heard Distant Towers before, I really like them. Just listened to the new one via your link, nice and tasty. I can't remember the name of the song that hooked me..there was a video...a cartoon man, a staircase..kind of a maze effect..good stuff. equality - thanks man, I'm kind of shocked people like the vox, I'm not exactly brewing with confidence with my voice texture. Bob Oister - much appreciated, particularly coming from you, I remember being really impressed with your stuff when I was on here last time. Mastering is definitely a big black box to me...I find it hard to understand and my patience wears thin quickly in the studio nowadays. The Band19 - Yeah I'm not actually crazy about the snare sound - it's merely better than the other choices I had with this soundfont. I'm actually working on affording a mic kit and mixer to start recording real drums. I've got my 7-piece kit now, knocking off the rust on my playing and maybe I can get something more appropriate. Sven450 - Awesome, any comparison to Tool is a compliment to me. I wish I could tweak the guitars and sounds like you're saying, but I don't have the project file anymore thanks to some thieving punks in Kansas City. Leadfoot - hey thanks man. Careful what you wish for my friend...
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