Dave King
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Golden Age Pre 73
Hey, I just got a Pre 73 and have been experimenting with it tonight - trying out different levels, etc. I think it sounds great! Prior to this, I've been using a Grace 101 pre. Compared to the Grace, the Pre 73 has more bite and sounds more alive. I guess that's what they mean by "character." Anyway, I'm curious if others here are using approximately the same settings that I found to be good. Meaning, add ing character without distortion. I'm running a Shure KSM44 into the Pre 73 using my Delta 44 card set at +4dBu in. On the Pre 73, the left knob is set at -60 and the Output is set at 12:00. The LED's flicker on the 0db level, but do not exceed it. Is this similar to what other folks are doing? Thanks!
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cecelius2
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Re:Golden Age Pre 73
2011/08/04 03:51:18
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I too own both the GAP73 and the Grace 101. Both are great, but they are different. The GAP is warmer and has more coloration of the signal. This can warm up the KSM you have and yet still keep the accuracy you want. The Grace is more transparent. I have found that I use different preamps with different mics, different preamps with different guitars, with different projects. I just worked on a project last week using both the GAP73 and the Grace 101. I used the GAP to warm up only slightly a Shure SM81 close mic'ing an old Martin D35. I used the Grace 101 on a Sterling Audio ST77 FET LDC. The resulting blend was very nice, had character, but great articulation. In mixing, I could dial in the blend to help the guitar sit well in the mix. BTW, I just checked my GAP73 and the settings were 55 and 6 O'clock, although I often run it at 60--I have even cranked it up on occasion. Really, it is up to you to dial in the amount of coloration or transparency based upon the microphone used, the instrument recorded, the room acoustics, and the tonal goal of each project. You bought a great little preamp. Have fun. Cecelius2
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Re:Golden Age Pre 73
2011/08/04 05:53:24
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Are you guys using the standard Gap or the one with the transformer mod?
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Re:Golden Age Pre 73
2011/08/04 08:04:00
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I also have the GAP pre73, but I have the first one, not the MKII, which I suspect is what you have got, Dave, since you obtained it recently. I also have a Shure KSM-27 which is the little brother of the KSM-44, my understanding is the only difference in the 27 and the 44 is the selectable patterns on the 44. I can't give you details about the setting you have chosen, but I can say that yes, it is a "warmer" tone than with a pre such as the m101 (which I don't have but really really want!). Jonesy - my GAP Pre is not modded.
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Re:Golden Age Pre 73
2011/08/04 08:28:39
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Yeah, I think it's the MKII with the Carnhill transformers in it. They seem to be excellent value for money - £249 for the unmodded & £399 for modded. (GBP obviously)
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Re:Golden Age Pre 73
2011/08/04 09:59:10
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I've been doing a lot of instrumental rock cues for publishers lately and I use it as a preamp for my electric geetar tracks, which I record dry and add Gearbox plugins later. Works great. I use almost the same setting you mentioned...-55/output straight up.
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Dave King
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Re:Golden Age Pre 73
2011/08/04 11:42:19
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Thanks for the comments. I got the new one - Pre73 MK II and really like it. Makes me wonder if I should hang on to the Grace or not. Time will tell... Thanks.
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Re:Golden Age Pre 73
2011/08/04 12:07:10
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Dave King Thanks for the comments. I got the new one - Pre73 MK II and really like it. Makes me wonder if I should hang on to the Grace or not. Time will tell... Thanks. let me know if you decide not too... of course I'll have to get that past Mrs. Beagle....
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Re:Golden Age Pre 73
2011/08/05 15:46:52
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I picked one up a few months ago. Stock - no mod. Great unit for the $$. I like it.
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IK Obi
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Re:Golden Age Pre 73
2011/08/05 19:05:38
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This makes me want a pre73! Either that or one of the new BLA API clones...
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Re:Golden Age Pre 73
2011/08/06 11:29:50
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Dave: Where did you get it? I've looked for it and some of the places where I go online says it's discontinued. I'd like to hear it....I've already got a Vintech x73i and a Great River Me-1NV and I'm sure the pre73 won't be in the ballpark, but you never know, lol Obi: Have you heard the API clone? Now THAT"S what I'd like...love the API sound!
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Re:Golden Age Pre 73
2011/08/06 11:32:41
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Re:Golden Age Pre 73
2011/08/06 12:47:01
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Beagle: Thanks!.......I was just reading the GS posts about the BLA Api clone.....sounds like a great deal
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Dave King
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Re:Golden Age Pre 73
2011/08/06 13:48:30
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Re:Golden Age Pre 73
2011/08/06 14:56:34
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I havne't heard anything about the API clone. I'd be interested in it, too.
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Re:Golden Age Pre 73
2011/08/06 15:00:14
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BLA Clone/API A/B sound comparisons
2011/08/06 22:14:20
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Beagle: Here is a link to some discussion of the BLA B12a (API clone). Entry #63 has a link to some A/B comparison: http://www.gearslutz.com/...-b12a-api-clone-3.html I love my GAP; I love my Grace; I expect to love the BLA b12a (when I get it--it is next on my list too). Cecelius2
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Re:BLA Clone/API A/B sound comparisons
2011/08/07 07:16:17
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thanks, Ceclius! that looks really good.
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IK Obi
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Re:BLA Clone/API A/B sound comparisons
2011/08/07 13:34:19
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Yeah the clips sound awesome! I want to wait a month or two to get a few more reviews out there to be sure but it looks like it may be joining my Auteur!
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Re:BLA Clone/API A/B sound comparisons
2011/08/07 15:24:16
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Obi: What exactly does the Auteur emulate?
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IK Obi
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Re:BLA Clone/API A/B sound comparisons
2011/08/07 18:06:01
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From my extensive research and experience with it: Awesomeness. Really its an original design with an old school topology, tons of headroom and transformer out. Its a clean sound but adds some depth to the highs and lows with slight boosts in each. Its a "hi-fi" sounding pre
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Dave King
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Re:BLA Clone/API A/B sound comparisons
2011/08/08 17:00:58
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So what kind of difference could be expected between the Neve sound and the API sound in these clones?
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IK Obi
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Re:BLA Clone/API A/B sound comparisons
2011/08/09 13:30:59
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2 different sonic flavors. The API is more punchy. Kind of hard describing a color to someone who hasn't heard it.
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Re:BLA Clone/API A/B sound comparisons
2011/08/09 14:43:28
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Which API were you listening too? Which Neve?
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IK Obi
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Re:BLA Clone/API A/B sound comparisons
2011/08/09 17:19:46
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We are talking about the BLAPI 12 pre and the Gap PRE73
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Re:BLA Clone/API A/B sound comparisons
2011/08/09 21:42:41
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