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2013/10/19 16:03:54 (permalink)

Good read!

Hi,
 
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=95612
 
Kinda nuts, and I love the bit about him not knowing or reading music ... and this guy has put out 50 albums or so in all these years!
 
So, for that guy that was wanting to take the test to see how good he was, here is what a lot of rock music is about, that music isn't!
 
For those that do not know Peter Hammill, here is a slight list:
 
Silent Corner and Empty Stage
In Camera
Over
Skin
Out of Water
 
With Van der Graaf Generator:
 
H to He
Godbluff
Still Life
Singularity
Pawn Hearts
 
This is not for everyone, and it is a difficult listen for many folks. Do not start with Silent Corner and Empty Stage, because it will drive you out of the individuality in the material, but you will never see/understand one of the best expressionists there is in rock music! The volatile and emotional fragmentation and explosion of it in the albums is insane and then some. And this is not something that a lot of rock music can deal with really well like Peter has all these years.

As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
  
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    SteveStrummerUK
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    Re: Good read! 2013/10/19 20:35:48 (permalink)
     
    Pfft
     
    I much preferred the humorous and maniacal jazz/prog/samba fusion musical stylings of his midget hunchback brother William Hillary Phillip Dillon....
     
    Better known, of course, by his nickname - 'Lil Bill Hill Phil Dill 'Camel' Hammill.
     
    Boy, what a mouthful he was.
     
    Of course, as my knowledge is so superior, I don't expect many of you Coffee House forum people will have heard of him.
     
    His classic second album "I Will Chill Until I Kill Jill At The Mill On The Hill" sold an incredible three copies in just the first fourteen years after it was released in 1974. All of which I bought. I think the main problem with the disappointing sales was that the entire rest of the population of the world, other than me, thought that it was complete bag of overblown pretentious sh1te.
     
    Another problem with the release was the enormous amount of bootleg tapes that were doing the rounds at the time. All of which I recorded. Who can ever forget that incredibly stupid playing mistake he made at Bob's Country Bunker on 16th April 1973 when, during the third Balalaika solo in Dromedary Blues in F#m (aka I've got the right hump with you Sonny Jim) he accidentally plucked a Bb instead of an A and everyone went home happy for a change. I still laugh like a drain every time I think of that.
     
    Also, I'll bet none of you plebs even remember Peter's other brother Mark, who, in my condescending opinion, should have at least been nominated for an Oscar for his incredibly moving and totally right-on performance in Return Of The Jedi.
     
    Oh Mark, you were so robbed
    'Twas Oscars night when I sobbed
    Your portrayal of Skywalker was cool
    Hand Luke a gong he's not a fool
    Obi Wan said "Use the force"
    Now ol' Luke's hung like a horse
    Princess Leia wept though she loved another
    Just as well, she nearly shagged her brother
    You couldn't wank, it wasn't grand
    When Vader's sabre sliced off your hand
    But you pulled through and then got past it
    Eventually looking under Darth's massive helmet
    "I am your father" said dear old Annakin
    "And when I'm talking son please stop your wankin"
    Yoda died and went to heaven
    I hope he's back in Episode VII
     
     
     
     
     
     

     Music:     The Coffee House BandVeRy MeTaL

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    Re: Good read! 2013/10/20 10:36:14 (permalink)
    Hi,
     
    Goüten schtüff hare Schtraümmy.
    post edited by bapu - 2013/10/20 10:40:13
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    Re: Good read! 2013/10/20 10:39:38 (permalink)
    Speaking of podiatrists Straummy. Did you catch the last post in that pathetic 7 post fred (maybe that's a FSF for that forum)?
     
    I would like to add something to Jean's little German lesson which is not related to Hammill at all. In the English language there is no "ä", "ö" or "ü", so what some people who don't speak German but want to write a German word which contains one of these letters often do is simply drop the dots on top. You can't do this; you might arrive at a totally different meaning!

    Some examples:

    The verb "münden" means "to flow into something", "to end in something", like for example "Die Elbe mündet in die Nordsee" ("The Elbe flows into the North Sea"). The verb "munden" means "tasting good to someone", like for example "Der Pudding mundet mir" I"The pudding is tasty for me").

    "Achtung" does not only mean "attention" in German, it also means "respect", "regard" or "esteem". The adjective "geachtet" means ""respected". "Ächtung" however means almost the opposite: "ostracism", "condemnation", "outlawing", and the adjective "geächtet" means ""ostracized" or "outlawed"-

    "Ätzung" means "cauterization", "etching", "Atzung" is either "the feeding of young birds" or "the food for young birds", especially birds of prey, and is sometimes figuratively used for "food", for example in Kurt Tucholsky's novel "Schloss Gripsholm" (English title "Castle Gripsholm").

    "Hören" means "Hearing", "Horen" are either "Goddesses of time" in Greek mythology or "hourly prayers" in liturgy.

    "Bewährung" means "parole" or "probation", "Bewahrung" means "keeping" or "protection", as in "Bewahrung alter Sitten und Bräuche" ("protection of old customs and traditions").

    These are just a few examples; I could give a lot more. So what you do if you don't have "ä", "ö" or "ü" on the keyboard is writing "ae", "oe" or "ue" instead. This will avoid confusion; it is a common and accepted method if you lack those keys on your keyboard.

    Sorry for that rant, but it is something I had wanted to say for a long time because I see that mistake (the simple dropping of the dots without adding an "e") so very often.
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    Re: Good read! 2013/10/20 12:26:39 (permalink)
    Hi,
     
    Spam, Strummy!
     
    More Spam, Strummy!

    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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    Re: Good read! 2013/10/20 14:00:55 (permalink)
    Oh my lots to think about der bapu


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    Re: Good read! 2013/10/20 14:44:48 (permalink)
    Another good read!
     

     
    I've heard this was too, but I found it to be a bit repetitive.
     


     
    Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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    Re: Good read! 2013/10/20 14:45:46 (permalink)
    When we print on shirts we use Scarlet Read.
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    Re: Good read! 2013/10/20 14:47:48 (permalink)
    bapu
    When we print on shirts we use Scarlet Read.



    Do you make a lot of the letter "A" (for "Arse" naturally)?

     
    Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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    Re: Good read! 2013/10/20 14:49:27 (permalink)
    craigb
    bapu
    When we print on shirts we use Scarlet Read.



    Do you make a lot of the letter "Am" (for "Am A Arse" naturally)?


    Straummified.
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    Re: Good read! 2013/10/20 14:58:15 (permalink)
    'Still Life' was one of my favourite albums when it came out. Sounds pretty good now actually. 'Godbluff' was excellent too. Not surprised a lot of punk rockers cited PH as an influence, he certainly 'goes for it'. I found 'World Record' a bit disappointing so lost interest after that.
    post edited by jamesg1213 - 2013/10/20 15:33:06

     
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    Moshkiae
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    Re: Good read! 2013/10/21 08:41:59 (permalink)
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    'Still Life' was one of my favourite albums when it came out. Sounds pretty good now actually. 'Godbluff' was excellent too. Not surprised a lot of punk rockers cited PH as an influence, he certainly 'goes for it'. I found 'World Record' a bit disappointing so lost interest after that.



    I like better his solo albums, and they might not be 100% excellent, but they always have several pieces that stand out. "Silent Corner and Empty Space" is one of the strongest, and I also like "Skin", and specially "Over" which has at least 4 pieces that are outstanding. "Out of Water" has one of my favorite rock pieces ever, though most think it is stupid. It's called "A Way Out", and it is, in the end, a simple love song! And it's so true, specially for us male-induced **** in this society, and sometimes, the overbearing idiocy in so many posts, to prove one's manhood!

    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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