oNeKOG
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Good sound card for recording guitar
I picked up Music creator 4 yesterday.
Found a major latency issue.
Partly solved it by installing ASIO4ALL v2
There is a slight latency but enough to mess me up.
So my question to you all is---
What is a good sound card for recording guitar?
I record my guitar via a lightsnake.
Thanks all.
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RE: Good sound card for recording guitar
2009/03/24 18:55:35
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Please post your computer specs such as RAM, operating system, speed. I won't ask what the sound card is since you want to replace it. A lot depends on what you want to do with it; are you just recording guitar, nothing else and you don't plan on ever recording anything but guitar? Do you anticipte needing to connect a stereo input, such as from a cassette deck? Maybe you have some old stuff on tape you want to add to. Do you want a multiple-input interface for future expansion? Do you need MIDI in/out? And, possibly most important: How much do you want to spend? A good USB 2-input device can be bought for 90-120 bucks. Many of us have written in our signatures the gear we use. You'll see lots of M-Audio, a few E-mu, Presonus and Focusrite devices. All this stuff works, but you want to make sure what you want is also compatible with your computer's operating system, i.e. Vista 64-bit, which is kinda new and may not be supported by Joe's Super-Audio Interface Gizmo. Check out the interfaces at: www.guitarcenter.com www.samash.com www.sweetwater.com Personally, I recommend the Focusrite Saffire. About $260 now, but has features you may not want/need, and you'll need a FireWire port to use it.
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RE: Good sound card for recording guitar
2009/03/24 19:19:46
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Ditto on the Saffire.... sweet interface.
You can also go to Beagle's site to compare soundcards... he has a page or two for this...
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oNeKOG
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RE: Good sound card for recording guitar
2009/03/24 21:13:56
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> Mainboard : Asus P4B533 > Chipset : Intel i845E > Processor : Intel Pentium 4 @ 2800 MHz > Physical Memory : 1024 MB (1 x 1024 DDR-SDRAM ) > Video Card : ATI Radeon HD 3450 > Hard Disk : ST3802110A (80 GB) > Hard Disk : WDC (80 GB) > DVD-Rom Drive : LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-16H5S ATA Device > Monitor Type : IBM IBM E74 - 16 inches > Network Card : Realtek Semiconductor RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter > Operating System : Windows 7 Ultimate Professional 6.01.7022 32 bit > DirectX : Version 10.00 Just recording guitar for now, acoustic guitar later cant see me recording anything else. Cassette deck is a no. midi no. 90-120 bucks is my price range. Can a few be suggested? Thanks again you all rock.
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RE: Good sound card for recording guitar
2009/03/24 21:48:03
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ORIGINAL: oNeKOG
I picked up Music creator 4 yesterday.
Found a major latency issue.
Partly solved it by installing ASIO4ALL v2
There is a slight latency but enough to mess me up.
So my question to you all is---
What is a good sound card for recording guitar?
I record my guitar via a lightsnake.
Thanks all.
I don't understand the point of a lightsnake. It's a USB cable with a soundcard built in along with a 1/4 jack and Y splitter. I used one before I got MC4. The problem is, there's no preamp, so all my Fender effects are lost along with my Les Paul pickups. It's useless as a recording tool. Plus the only way to get around latency with a LightSnake is to use your own amp as a "monitoring environment"as they sarcastically call it, but this is useless too because when you split the signal you lose all amplifier effects. An utterly worthless piece of junk, IMO. For my purposes, I've just ordered the M-Audio USB interface. This is all I'll need since it's just me recording my guitar, bass, and hooting. I tried the ASIO driver today too. It's useless on a conventional soundcard. I was getting 40 ms latency. Now with the ASIO driver I'm getting a blazing 30 ms latency! I ordered the M-Audio.
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oNeKOG
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RE: Good sound card for recording guitar
2009/03/24 22:05:08
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LOL Got 30 days to return the lightsnake. M-Audio USB interface I'll be looking at, where did you order yours from? And what is a good one to get? Let me know and I'm off to return the snake then to Axe music :)
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Anastasis
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RE: Good sound card for recording guitar
2009/03/24 22:08:51
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ORIGINAL: oNeKOG
LOL Got 30 days to return the lightsnake.
M-Audio USB interface I'll be looking at, where did you order yours from?
 AMAZON.COM. Song writing is expensive enough. Might as well get everything else as cheap as possible. I just ordered the little M-Audio Fast Track, it's 81 bucks including next day shipping.
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oNeKOG
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RE: Good sound card for recording guitar
2009/03/24 22:27:42
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Anastasis
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RE: Good sound card for recording guitar
2009/03/24 22:32:24
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ORIGINAL: oNeKOG
Found a M Audio MobilePre USB Bus-Powered Preamp and Audio Interface - MOBILEPRE
At
https://www.axemusic.com/product.asp?numRecordPosition=38&P_ID=4774&PT_ID=281
In my price range. seems like a good one, is it?
IN STOCK AT WAREHOUSE have to wait for it to be delivered :(
Yeah that looks like a good one. If my little music habit were any bigger that's the one Id go for. As for now, its just me and my imaginary friends. Right now I'm trying to develope a new imaginary friend called a drummer.
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oNeKOG
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RE: Good sound card for recording guitar
2009/03/24 23:08:09
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LOL drummer is my friend I saw him first.
Thanks for your input.
It's on my to buy list.
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RE: Good sound card for recording guitar
2009/03/24 23:16:07
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Definitely return the lightsnake. A cool concept, but the technology isn't there yet. Biggest problem is the low grade A/D converter (sound card) built in. Have you commited to the Mobile Pre? From what I've evperienced, units of this type have a minimum latency of 10ms, just at the threshold of perception. It's easy to get used to it, but for me, it's a bit annoying. Oddly enough, I run at 8ms normally, which doesn't seem like much of a difference, but it is huge. I like to play my VST effects live, so latency is an issue. Recording audio clean, with no effects, these cards are good down to about 2ms. Do you have an available PCI slot? If so, a PCI card, such as the M-Audio 24/96 or E-MU0404 offers noticably better performance, especially on a board with your specs. My system is very similar (P4, 865 chipset, 400Mhz FSB). Both of these will require external preamps, and a mixer such as the Behringer Xenyx802 fills out a powerful package. W7 may be an issue, depending on drivers. XP is rock solid on a system with your specs, Vista,well ok, maybe W7 will work better. Firewire, a crapshoot unless you have a TI firewire chip, and it's still a bit spendy. Do a little more research, before you grab that wallet.
post edited by RobertB - 2009/03/24 23:28:43
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RE: Good sound card for recording guitar
2009/03/24 23:22:45
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Behringer Xenyx802 Hey Robert, since we're on the topic how would the Behringer Xenyx802 work with the M-Audio Fast Track? I'm just interested as a side issue. Thanks.
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RobertB
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RE: Good sound card for recording guitar
2009/03/24 23:34:52
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Michael, the Xenyx802 would be somewhat compromised whith the base model Fast Track. Not in quality, but the Fast Track has only 1 line level input. You need 2 to get the stereo output from the mixer. I only recently realized the Fast Track only had the 1 input.
If you are plugging your guitar directly into the Fast Track, it's fine. If you need phantom power for a condenser mic, there would be something to gain from the mixer, although a single channel preamp would be sufficient.
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RE: Good sound card for recording guitar
2009/03/25 00:16:45
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Yeah, you're right. The basic small Fast Track USB is set at 10ms. This'll be ok for my purposes, though. However, the Fast Track Pro is has 0 latency hardware.
This might be very cool for a band.
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RE: Good sound card for recording guitar
2009/03/25 08:36:20
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RE: Good sound card for recording guitar
2009/03/25 08:44:30
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More inputs most def!!! and a Secretary!!!!!!!!!! 
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