Got a good deal on a nice Hawken .50 cal today...

If it's a original Hawken it's a steal      :)
 

I think it's more sporting to use one of these .50 cal monsters:
 

mike_mccue
Is it a T/C?
 
Ever thought about a SS Firestorm?

Yes, it is a T/C. I got some powder sticks. Never seen them but they look convenient. I forgot to get P-caps but am going back to town today.
I really want a Winchester 1873. They started making them again but they are only one caliber right now (.357 mag or .38) and retail for 1300 bucks or 1580 for case hardened... dealer price is a ittle over 900 bucks on the 1300 dollar gun. I could get an Italian knock off for 400 bucks but, it wouldn't be the real thing. I'm hoping they make one in .44 cal I am not fan of .357 Mag. I'd prefer a .44 or .45
 
Flintlocks are OK but I don't want to deal with a flash pan. I have an old flintlock hammer and pan. I dug it metal detecting in Virginia. Actually got to hunt one day at the Crow's Nest, very much a historic piece of land. Found the flintlock parts, a federal minnie, a Confederate slick, and a bullet in wood. The one in wood is really cool, the minnie was completely encased in a dead limb on the ground. I cut away just enough so you can see the bullet. The preservationists showed up the next day with so much media pressure that the land owner caved, but we got one day's hunting in. It was out on the land where the Powhatans lived and where Pochontas was captured in 1613.The federals also captured a plantation there and used it as a staging area... I imagine they wish they had never crossed to attack Fredricksburg. 
The land is privately owned but some preservationists are in a battle to try and make the owner leave it as it is. It really is a beautiful place and a few holes, dug a few inches deep and refilled will never hurt anything but some people think they own other people's property and would rather that relics rust away in the ground than be recovered and displayed... we saved a few things though.
 
J
 
 
 

sharke
Unfortunately I live in a state where only the criminals can have guns :(

Politicians?

craigb

sharke
Unfortunately I live in a state where only the criminals can have guns :(

Politicians?

Yeah well as you probably know, anti-peons-having-guns Bloomberg has an armed security detail.

New Jersey? Yeah... well... moonshiners cant make moonshine either and speeders cant speed... I bet you CAN buy and own a blackpowder gun, most gun laws don't apply to blackpowder muzzle loaders... and I know just the one. http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=1612371
 
I am pretty sure all you would have to do is point it at someone to get them to pee their pants. It is 20 gauge, they used to sell them in .50 cal and .58 cal. Probably can still get those somewhere.
 

You can also get this to go with it....

 
This is what it was designed for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mXeuJOfUNM

Can kids still buy cap guns with the little rolls of caps that made a bang? I bet they can't. Used to love those things!

Hi Sharke,
 You can defend your self... just move on down to Florida.
 
 We've had some recent gun stories that seem so *Florida* to me.
 
 Recently a guy had his unloaded .380 gun sitting on the floor of his pick em up truck when his dog bumped into it and it shot the guys foot... with a 9mm bullet. Chances are the dog didn't slide one into the chamber or pull back on a double action hammer... if you know what I mean.
 
 The other recent and typical *Florida* story was the lady in St Petersburg who had her oven shoot 4 rounds at her when she was preheating it for some baking. Her room mate, in the interest of safety had pulled his clip from his hand gun and placed the gun in a kitchen draw and then placed the clip in the oven where no one would look for it. You know... safety first!
 
 There's also the guy who got away with murder a couple years ago when he was in the coat closet of a church's meeting hall with his buddy looking at his buddies bad ass 9mm when it accidentally went off, shot through a wall and killed a girl in the next room. The girl just happened to be the shooter's fiance and her dad owns the church. That's how it rolls in Florida. Some how no one got charged... you know, just because.
 
 Last New Years Eve two different people, in two different Florida towns got struck by bullets flying through the air at midnight. Hey it's Florida... and a couple rounds of .762 are way cheaper than driving to South Carolina for bottle rockets. There's no way to figure out who did it because it seems like every other guy you talk to owns an AK47. You know... good times!!!
 
 I could go on... and on... and on...
 
 I've never been afraid of guns and it seems to me that often times the bad guys are more careful with them than the goof balls.
 
 I don't expect everyone to know what that means. :-)
 
 
 best regards,
mike
 
 
 
 
 

mike_mccue
Hi Sharke,
 You can defend your self... just move on down to Florida.
 
 We've had some recent gun stories that seem so *Florida* to me.
 
 Recently a guy had his unloaded .380 gun sitting on the floor of his pick em up truck when his dog bumped into it and it shot the guys foot... with a 9mm bullet. Chances are the dog didn't slide one into the chamber or pull back on a double action hammer... if you know what I mean.
 
 The other recent and typical *Florida* story was the lady in St Petersburg who had her oven shoot 4 rounds at her when she was preheating it for some baking. Her room mate, in the interest of safety had pulled his clip from his hand gun and placed the gun in a kitchen draw and then placed the clip in the oven where no one would look for it. You know... safety first!
 
 There's also the guy who got away with murder a couple years ago when he was in the coat closet of a church's meeting hall with his buddy looking at his buddies bad ass 9mm when it accidentally went off, shot through a wall and killed a girl in the next room. The girl just happened to be the shooter's fiance and her dad owns the church. That's how it rolls in Florida. Some how no one got charged... you know, just because.
 
 Last New Years Eve two different people, in two different Florida towns got struck by bullets flying through the air at midnight. Hey it's Florida... and a couple rounds of .762 are way cheaper than driving to South Carolina for bottle rockets. There's no way to figure out who did it because it seems like every other guy you talk to owns one. You know... good times!!!
 
 I could go on... and on... and on...
 
 I've never been afraid of guns and it seems to me that often times the bad guys are more careful with them than the goof balls.
 
 I don't expect everyone to know what that means. :-)
 
 
 best regards,
mike

Yeah but idiots will be idiots. You could find way more examples of people harming themselves and others by being idiots behind the wheel, for example. 

Up here I have a double barrel shotgun my dad had....

sharke

paulo

sharke
Unfortunately I live in a state where only the criminals can normal people don't have guns :)

 fixed. 

Well how is that fortunate. I'm effectively banned from defending myself.

 
Never noticed you being shy about defending yourself sharke ;)

When at my parents ast weekend I found a "rocket" I made when I wasa a kid. However, I am no longer sure if it is a rocket... it is probably a really good thing that I lost it. I took a Crosman CO2 cylinder, sawed off the cap and stuffed it completely full of caps, match heads, powder from firecrackers, and anything else explosive I could find... it is packed full. The plan was to insert a fuse, stick it in a pipe (barrel), point it toward the sky, light it and run. Probably not a good idea but I was maybe 12 years old... now I don't know what to do with it. I am thinking maybe I should....  insert a fuse, stick it in a pipe (barrel), point it toward the sky, light it and run.
 
Once 12... always 12.
 
J

COOL.... I have a book "Backyard Ballistics".
 
I like stuff like this. I was afraid the CO2 cylinder was something I don't want to type out here, considering the N_S_A etc, but lets say I was concerned that I had made a
 
instead of a rocket.. I guess considering the population around here, if I fire it... it should be into the side of a hill.
 
J

paulo

sharke

paulo

sharke
Unfortunately I live in a state where only the criminals can normal people don't have guns :)

fixed. 

Well how is that fortunate. I'm effectively banned from defending myself.

 
Never noticed you being shy about defending yourself sharke ;)

Yeah but only online. I'm a total wimp in real life...