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EricDeluxe
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2012/10/13 14:35:12 (permalink)

Graphics issues

Hello

I have some issues with R-Mix, as I can't see the GUI and I only hear the changes in sound. I also sometimes have problems with lagging strips.

I was suggested that this may be an effect of my graphic card. Have others also come over graphical problems?

I only use the graphic engine on my CPU i7 3770 K 3.5 Ghz (HD 4000). According to a lot of tests and users this card seem totally enough for easier 3D and 2D graphics. My setup is below.  

I might consider an update to a Fanless Grapchic card if necessary. 

ASUS P8Z77-V Pro Thunderbolt (Motherboard).
16 GB RAM
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Window 7 x 64
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    robert_e_bone
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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/13 15:03:25 (permalink)
    I can't speak to this particular issue at the moment, but I can tell you that I ran X1 on a machine using the on-board graphics processor, and had no graphics-related issues.

    I don't know anything about R-Mix to guide you one way or the other.  If there are indeed any graphics issues, I have used and others as well, cards as cheap as around $50 with good results.

    My current computer is a behemoth with really high-end cards - but that was just a bwa ha ha I'm taking over the world moment of purchasing on my part, and not at all needed.

    You should have PLENTY of power to run things.

    Please elaborate on the problems you are having.

    Hope this helps, 

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    EricDeluxe
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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/13 15:23:19 (permalink)
    Hey

    Thanks for your input. 

    I also recon that this should me more than fine. I did also Ran X1 without any problems. However R-Mix wasn't included then. 

    I could get a cheap and good fanless card (like ATI 5450) for less than 35 Euro. Perhaps worth to try it. Not sure about if the HD 4000 drivers on the CPU use resources in other calculations on the desktop. Well, might be worth an upgrade...
     

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    StarTekh
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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/13 15:52:31 (permalink)
    see your running these drivers: Version 9.3.0.1021 Description Intel Chipset Driver V9.3.0.1021 for Windows XP 32bit & XP 64bit & Win7 32bit & Win7 64bit & Win8 32bit & Win8 64bit.(WHQL) File Size 253,86 (MBytes) 2012.09.12 update Version 8.15.10.2712 Description Intel Graphics Accelerator Driver V8.15.10.2712 for Windows Win7 32bit & Win7 64bit.(WHQL) File Size 277,05 (MBytes) 2012.06.07 update http://ca.asus.com/en/Mot...OTHUNDERBOLT/#download BTW awsom board !!
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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/13 16:09:15 (permalink)
    hello StarTekh

    Yeah, I updated to the latest drivers and Bios.

    I will buy a Asus Radeon HD5450 1 GB Silent tomorrow. Hopefully this fixes it:)

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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/13 16:19:45 (permalink)
    I would buy a nvidia card ....!!!
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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/13 16:22:58 (permalink)
    Why NVIDIA?

    I got an Asua motherboard. And heard that the HD5450 is a ok GPU for DAW. Sound On Sound also recommended ATI Radeon 5450 (back in 2011, but still).

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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/13 16:34:12 (permalink)
    What about the Asus Geforce GT520 1gb silent?

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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/13 16:48:05 (permalink)
    Asus Geforce GT520 1gb silent perfect.. !!!
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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/13 16:54:05 (permalink)
    I think X2 has 'Draw' problems, whichever card you have. Not for all i might add, but i have had the r-mix white screen (not sure this is graphics card related) plus other strange re-draws with copying clips. I only have an Nvidia gt430 but even so.... Bibs

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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/13 17:51:34 (permalink)

    Thanx Mr:)!!
    StarTekh


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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/13 22:16:58 (permalink)
    Well, an onboard card does indeed share both memory and processing with the general PC so a dedicated card is simply better from that perspective, regardless of any graphics improvement.
    tbh...there is nothing between ATI and Nvidia cards at the low end... once you start spending $100 or more on a card, i would suggest a preference for an ATI card.. as the eyefinity architecture supports 3 displays whereas nvidia supports 2 max..even in sli mode..

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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/14 17:37:02 (permalink)

    Hello

    I purchased the Nvidia Geforce GT 610 1024 MB Silent. Haven't tried it with Sonar yet, just installed the card. Works fine otherwise.

    Don't need 3 screens, 2 are fine for me:) And don't use SLI at all..
    Mystic38


    Well, an onboard card does indeed share both memory and processing with the general PC so a dedicated card is simply better from that perspective, regardless of any graphics improvement.
    tbh...there is nothing between ATI and Nvidia cards at the low end... once you start spending $100 or more on a card, i would suggest a preference for an ATI card.. as the eyefinity architecture supports 3 displays whereas nvidia supports 2 max..even in sli mode..



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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/14 17:38:44 (permalink)
    www.nvidia.com
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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/14 17:43:26 (permalink)
    I now tried to run the R-MIX with my new GPU, and guess what, no luck:( Will try windows update and see if that changes anything.

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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/14 18:02:49 (permalink)
    The Windows update didn't fix it.

    But the Visual Studio 2012 update did the trick:) 

    Thanks a lot StarTekh!!

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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/14 18:04:10 (permalink)
    Everyone should install Visual Studio 2012 !!!
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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/14 18:10:52 (permalink)
    Whoever talked about the white screen - there is another pretty current thread in the forum that talks about that, and I think they FIXED it - not 100% sure, about fixed, but it was definitely brought up.

    Erik - can you please detail the exact steps and issues to this problem?  I need to understand it better so I can figure out how to approach helping you (if I can), 

    Thanks, 

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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/14 18:13:20 (permalink)
    BOB : hes fix'd !! lol
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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/14 18:21:41 (permalink)
    He's NEUTERED????

    Sorry - I didn't see he was fixed - I need to go watch some football,

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    Re:Graphics issues 2012/10/15 18:48:40 (permalink)
    Robert, thanks for your help, but as StarTekh so nicely pointed out. 
    I fixed it with Visual Studio 2012 ugrade:)

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