Green encrypted files, administrator rights, etc

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2012/05/23 22:47:00 (permalink)

Green encrypted files, administrator rights, etc

Sorry I guess this is off-topic, though it's on my computer I do nothing with but SONAR.  I'm going in literal circles here, baffling.
 
I may have had a virus, Norton found one, not sure if that has anything to do with it.
 
The ONLY things I can think of that I've done to this computer was A) run a full system scan with Norton, which as I said found some trojan virus and removed it and B) updated Omnisphere from 1.5 to 1.5.6 and updated the Moog patch set.
 
So I have two sets of files (that I've found, so far) that now act corrupted, both of which I've used very recently, in the last day or two.  One is 'Rumble' in Kontakt (think I have the latest full version of Kontact, 5.0.2.5641) and the other is an ACID library called 'Check Your Breaks'.  They are on completely separate physical drives.
 
So I couldn't figure out what the hell until I found out in Windows Vista explorer they both show up as green which apparently means encrypted file.  But I'm unable to un-encrypt the files without getting prompted for 'administrator rights' and then getting denied.  Driving me crazy.
 
Why would they suddenly be green?  What would cause this?  Like I said I've used both of them very recently.
 
So lets say I want to un-encrypt them.  I do this:
 
- Go to file properties and click on the 'details' tab and it says 'owner' is 'administrators.'
 
- So I go to 'security' tab and click on 'edit' permissions.
 
- I click on 'authenticated users' and click on allow 'full control'.  Also click on 'users' and do the same, allow 'full control'.
 
- Close dialogue box.
 
- Re-open file properties and click on the 'advanced' tab, de-select 'encrypt contents to secure data'.
 
- Try to close dialogue box but it I get the need 'administrator rights' prompt and then it says access denied.
 
- Re-open file properties, click 'security' tab, click 'advanced', click over to 'owner', click 'edit' and change it to my username.
 
- Close the dialogue box.  Re-open it, now when I click on 'details' it lists me as owner.
 
- Try to deselect 'encrypt contents' and get the same 'administrator rights' prompt.
 
It's like I'm going in circles.  Sorry I've never dealt with this before, can anyone shed any light on this?
 
Thanks a ton!
 
Matt Koskenmaki
 
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    Matt
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    Re:Green encrypted files, administrator rights, etc 2012/05/23 22:56:41 (permalink)
    Don't know why this posted twice... I only hit post once but it hung up my computer for five minutes or so.  Very suspicious also... my computer never hangs.  Something funky happening...
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    Re:Green encrypted files, administrator rights, etc 2012/05/24 00:34:23 (permalink)
    Matt, have you tried a System Restore? I've had some bizarre behaviour in the past with my PC and SR usually sorts it out. You probably should run SR in windows safe mode for better effect.
     
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    Re:Green encrypted files, administrator rights, etc 2012/05/24 10:59:49 (permalink)
    I'll try system restore.  In my accidental duplicate thread, bitflipper wrote:

    "First, disable encryption so that no further files will be affected. This entails adding a registry key under HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\FileSystem called NtfsDisableEncryption and setting it to 1. After doing that, the option to encrypt files should be disabled (grayed out) in the File Properties dialog.

    Next, log in as Administrator (not as a user with admin privileges) and unencrypt the files/folders. If you still can't do it, they may indeed by corrupt, or the encryption certificates have been lost or corrupted. In that case, you'll have no choice but to delete the files and re-install those products."

    So I checked the registry and this key was already there but set to 0 so I changed it to 1, thanks.  Second, how do I log in as admin?  And if you can do this, why wouldn't you always log in as admin?
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    Re:Green encrypted files, administrator rights, etc 2012/05/24 11:39:48 (permalink)
    So I created/activated an admin account using the info I found here:

    http://maximumpcguides.com/windows-vista/logon-windows-vista-as-administrator/

    No Idea if that is good info but it seemed to work.

    So I logged in as admin.... then of course I had to go and change that registry key back to '0' and restart because the encryption was greyed out... logged back in as admin and it still gives me the same error message "need administrator rights" and "denied".

    So are the files just F***D then?

    Replacing those two libraries isn't the biggest deal.  I'm more concerned about A) how/why this happened and B) what else might be affected.  I'm not sure how to search for files that may be encrypted or corrupt when you're dealing with 2-3TB of samples/files.
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    Re:Green encrypted files, administrator rights, etc 2012/05/24 11:41:06 (permalink)
    Oh yeah, and I tried system restore but it wasn't enabled, oops.  It is enabled now.
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    Re:Green encrypted files, administrator rights, etc 2012/05/24 20:13:26 (permalink)

    ...why wouldn't you always log in as admin?



    The reason you don't run as Administrator all the time is because if you pick up a virus it will inherit your elevated privileges and can then bypass many system defenses to freely wreak havoc. Better to run as a user that has the minimum necessary rights, simply as another layer of malware defense. But if your computer's not on the internet (and a full-time dedicated DAW shouldn't be on any network except when needed for downloading or authorizing plugins) then you could log in as administrator all the time.
    I was curious enough about your problem to google it...I found a couple of forums where people were describing identical symptoms as yours: files that unintentionally became encrypted. Unfortunately, there were no solutions or even good advice offered - in one case, a respondent flat-out told the poster that there was no way for that to happen. He'd been drinking the Microsoft Kool-Aid too long, I guess.

    So it appears you're not crazy, others have also experienced this. If I were you I'd just uninstall and re-install the affected products, then disable encryption globally.


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    Re:Green encrypted files, administrator rights, etc 2012/05/25 13:32:07 (permalink)
    Thanks for the response to this.

    I was going on the hypothesis that the files somehow became encrypted because I never noticed them being green before.  But I went to my backup drives (which were physically unplugged from the computer) and the backup files also have the same weird encryption problem.  So now I'm thinking that perhaps the files have always been encrypted but something changed recently on my computer so that I'm unable to access them.  Is there an encryption key somewhere?  Still digging...
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    Re:Green encrypted files, administrator rights, etc 2012/05/25 15:05:36 (permalink)
    Yeh, there's an encryption certificate somewhere on your disk. I have no idea where, though. 

    One of the reasons I don't encrypt files: if the disk ever crashes and you lose the certificate, then even if the files are backed up somewhere you will never be able to recover them.



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    Re:Green encrypted files, administrator rights, etc 2012/05/25 19:10:25 (permalink)
    Yes, aside from all the top-secret blueprints and treasure maps and blackmail stuff I keep on my computer I never have reason to encrypt anything.

    Interestingly, I emailed Big Fish Audio and re-downloaded the "Check Your Breaks" loops from the source.   The files came encrypted again, though this time not only am I able to read/access the files, I was able to decrypt them through file properties.  So I have to think that the files were always encrypted, but something changed on my computer (the certificate changed?) that prevents me from accessing them anymore.
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