Groove Creation/Saving

Don't be afraid to save changes. The 16 preset grooves are saved in a special Template file which Kinetic will not overwrite unless you specifically want that (by using the "Save As Template" option). When you save a project for the first time, Kinetic will ask you for a new filename - just give each project a different filename and you won't lose any of your work. Next time you start Kinetic, you just load the file you want to work on.

Now, when you do File->New->Project, Kinetic will always start a new blank project. It's up to you to build your own grooves, either by loading patterns and patches from the list, or by making your own patterns using the sequencer.

If you want to start a new project with the 16 preset grooves, all you have to do is select
File->New->Project from Template File. This will load the template file which is loaded at startup - this is by default the same project as "Pattern Showcase.kin", so if you ever overwrite the template file, you can always load "Pattern Showcase" and get those 16 grooves back. The problem here is that this template project already uses all 16 parts and it doesn't leave much space to make your own stuff. It's ok if you want to get to know the program, but as soon as you get the hang of it, you will want to start always with a blank project.

Not to beat this into the ground, but, for example, I was just messing around, and came-up with a nice groove, saved it as a file; then, created a nice "contrasting" groove, saved it as a different file; thought they would sound good as 2 bars of first groove, 2 bars of second groove, and over and over. I painted first groove into a song, then opened the file with the second groove, and the song was cleared-out! I even clicked "Copy Groove To" and chose D1 and D2 for the two grooves. I could play the most recent groove (D2), but when I clicked on D1, it was silent (and had the same patches as my D2 groove). I hope this all makes sense. Surely I can do what I want to do - I just don't seem to be able to do it!!!

Tom

ORIGINAL: bayofkings7

Not to beat this into the ground, but, for example, I was just messing around, and came-up with a nice groove, saved it as a file; then, created a nice "contrasting" groove, saved it as a different file; thought they would sound good as 2 bars of first groove, 2 bars of second groove, and over and over. I painted first groove into a song, then opened the file with the second groove, and the song was cleared-out! I even clicked "Copy Groove To" and chose D1 and D2 for the two grooves. I could play the most recent groove (D2), but when I clicked on D1, it was silent (and had the same patches as my D2 groove). I hope this all makes sense. Surely I can do what I want to do - I just don't seem to be able to do it!!!

Tom

Don't save each groove separately! When you save a file, all 64 grooves (A1 to D16) are saved with it, along with the song sequence.

Each time you load a file, the current project is cleared and replaced with the grooves in the file. Each file represents one song, not one groove.

Try this:

Load the first file you saved (the one with the first groove in D1). Now, copy D1 to D2 and mess around with D2. Then copy D2 to D3 and mess around with D3. Now save the file with the same filename (just hit CTRL-S). The file has been saved with all three grooves in it. Now, let's see if it worked - close Kinetic and open it again, load the file you just saved and check out grooves D1, D2, and D3 - they should be just like you left them.

Now, to build a song just "paint" a few bars of D1 on the Song Arranger, followed by a few bars of D2 and then a few more bars of D3. Play the song from start. Now hit CTRL-S again to save the file (which now includes the three grooves *and* the song sequence).

Great! Will you let us hear your work?