Groove Quantize - Not Working From Clipboard

Hello,
 
I am trying to find a way to make this easy but not sure if I can.
 
So I have 9 notes in both phrases, however you can see the notes are different.  Right now all the notes are velocity 100.  As you see on the left, I drew in some velocity changes.  How can I get those velocity changes on the next phrase to the right without changing the notes?
 
I tried Groove Quantizing by copying the first set of notes to the clipboard, then hilighted the 2nd bunch of notes, and processed the Groove Quantize on them from the clipboard, but nothing changed.
 

 
 
Thank You!
 

AdamGrossmanLG
So I think my problem here is that Groove Quantize is not working.

 
Groove Quantize works just fine. As long as your default position is "SONAR has a bug," then you will never find the solution when SONAR doesn't have a bug. I assume you didn't try to learn about how the function works, but instead wanted the function to work the way you expected it to, and it didn't. Therefore you assumed Groove Quantize didn't work.
 
I hadn't tried what you described, but was curious if maybe you actually had found a bug. So, I clicked the dialog box's Help button  and learned how Groove Quantize worked. 
 
The four blue notes on the left are the original notes, which I copied to the clipboard in order to do groove quantizing. The four green notes are the ones I entered. The four red notes on the right are copies of the green notes, with groove quantizing applied.
 

 
So, groove quantizing works.

Hi Craig,

I think I actually DID find a bug.
I think it may have to do with 16th notes.  Can you try the following?
 
1.  Draw in the 16th notes in the picture below including the velocity changes in the first measure.  (keep the velocity consistent in the 2nd measure).
2.  Copy the first measure into the clipboard (CTRL+C)
3.  Select the the 2nd measure only and choose "Groove Quantize"
4.  Make sure Clipboard is the source, the resolution is 1/16, and that velocity is up to 100% in the dialog window, then hit OK.
5.  You should see NO velocity changes made to the 2nd measure
 

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To prove the bug:
 
 
1.  Draw in the quarter notes in the picture below including the velocity changes in the first measure.  (keep the velocity consistent in the 2nd measure).
2.  Copy the first measure into the clipboard (CTRL+C)
3.  Select the the 2nd measure only and choose "Groove Quantize"
4.  Make sure Clipboard is the source, the resolution is 1/16, and that velocity is up to 100% in the dialog window, then hit OK.
5.  You should see now see the problem.  It works fine except for 16th notes.
 

 
Bug?
 

AdamGrossmanLG
Anderton, please tell me if I found a bug.

 
No.
 
Same deal as before in the image below, but with 16th notes: blue notes original, green notes copy of notes with velocity set to constant, red copy of green with Groove Quantize from blue notes applied. I don't know what you're doing wrong. 
 

Here is a video of what I am doing.
 
Please tell me at what step I am doing something wrong.  
 
Much appreciated.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB7lejG7R_8
 

Here were my steps:
 
1.  Selected bars 14 - 15
2.  Edit > Copy
3.  Selected bars 16 - 17
4.  Process > Groove Quantize
5.  Selected "Clipboard" for the source, left everything else at default, hit OK
 
No changes made.
 

Anderton
Sorry, works for me every time so I have no idea what to recommend. What version of SONAR are you running?

2017.09
 
I am noticing it works for simple patterns, but if you get even just a little complicated like my original image, it doesn't work.   
 
I will experiment more to try and come up with something.  I might open a support ticket and upload my file, but first I am going to experiment more, see if I can find out what exactly causes this thing to not work.

I'm having the same issue and have had it for a couple versions. I actually just came to the forum to see if anyone else was having the issue and if there's a resolution yet. I have the issue on Windows 7 and Windows 10 and on multiple different PC's with different configurations.
 
Sometimes rebooting makes Groove Quantize (GQ) see what's copied to the clip board correctly. Sometimes GQ deletes all the notes I try to GQ. I've noticed that the first note usually has to be perfectly quantized to the selected resolution for GQ to work.
 
I'm trying to switch to Reaper but been using Cakewalk Pro Audio and Sonar since 1997, so I can work faster with it but lately I think it would take less time to learn something new in Reaper than to use Sonar just to find out something doesn't work correctly anymore.
 
The Audio and MIDI interfaces I use: 
* Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 1st gen
* Fractal Audio Systems Axe-Fx II Mk I and XL+
* Line 6 POD Studio UX2

That's useful information. If what you think is being copied to the clipboard isn't being copied, that would produce the results Adam and you have experienced. I'll try to figure out why SONAR is seeing my clipboard, and maybe that will solve the issue.

I just found a post I created 1 year and 1 month ago for the same thing I'm trying to do right now.
* http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3479658
 
I was just going through my Evernotes to see if I have anything more about this issue and it looks like there are 2 things that sometimes seem to affect it.
 
1. In the initialization file TTSSEQ.INI, there's a Variable in the [Options] section: MfxLookAhead=3840
** Defines how much extra MIDI data is sent to MFX plug-ins, so that they have extra room to quantize events into the future
** Lower values mean MFX plug-ins can work more "just in time"
** Example: MfxLookAhead=480
** The default is 960*4=3840 ticks
 
NOTE: Also, I recently changed IgnoreMidiInTimeStamps=0 to 1, so not sure if this is causing any issues.
 
2. In Preferences > MIDI > Playback and Recording > Playback > Prepare Using: 500 Millisecond Buffers
** Prepare Using N Millisecond Buffers
** This option lets you specify how far in advance SONAR prepares MIDI data during playback
** The default is 250 milliseconds.