cclarry
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GrooveExtractor
AudioGaming has released GrooveExtractor, a plugin for Mac OS X and Windows that transcribes a drum loop recording into five components: bass drum, snare drum, close hihat, open hihat/cymbal and tom-toms. The transcription result is represented as General MIDI file. There are two analysis settings: - Electronic represents the groove by 3 components: kick, snare and hi-hat. It works best for loops generated by electronic drum machines.
- Acoustics represents the groove by 5 components: kick, snare, close hi-hat, cymbal/open hi-hat and toms. It works best for acoustic drum recordings.
Price: 8.99 €. GrooveExtractor is available for Mac OS X and Windows in VST, Audio Units and AAX plugin formats. 
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/26 10:34:06
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/06/26 11:08:10
Drum Replacer, Groove Extractor. The one I have been using the most, lately, is from "Electric Larryland Audio" the money extractor. CPU hog? No, billfold hog.
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/26 11:04:54
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/06/26 12:34:57
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Drum Replacer, Groove Extractor. The one I have been using the most, lately, is from "Electric Larryland Audio" the money extractor. CPU hog? No, billfold hog.
Man, do I know how that feels.
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/26 12:20:00
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/06/26 12:34:52
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Drum Replacer, Groove Extractor. The one I have been using the most, lately, is from "Electric Larryland Audio" the money extractor. CPU hog? No, billfold hog.
Man, do I know how that feels.
Man, do I .............nevermind.
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/26 13:48:16
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It was free when it was in beta. If it works as advertised it's a no brainer. Hi-hat and cymbal detection would be awesome! Everything else can be done pretty efficiently with what we have now. I would bite if I could find some solid info. I'm sure the Sonar Drum Replacer will evolve and be a one stop solution for this task.
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/26 14:22:28
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Watching him take the audio, drag it in...then drag the MIDI out right into the track... That's slick...if it does that well...hopefully Drum Replacer will do that one day... On KVR they stated that the Beta worked well... http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6070906I think I might have to bite the bullet and plunk down a Hamilton and see how it does...
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/26 14:23:12
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deleted...wouldn't work (was trying to post the animation)
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/26 14:56:42
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This site doesn't like GIF files, or maybe just animated GIF files. Anyway...
For the price (just over US$10), I went ahead and bought it. Will be fun to play with. One little word of caution...
When I use PayPal, I prefer not to give any info to the selling site (other than email address) if I don't have to. Here, you must. Since they could get all the info they need (including my email addy) from PayPal (as some sites do), I skipped the required fields the first time and then picked PayPal. Bork! Had to go back and add my contact info.
That's when the little problem started. Even when you go back and add your contact info, it still wants to charge you another couple of bucks VAT. The total in the right sidebar is correct, but the amount it will bill your CC/PayPal includes the VAT.
I had to delete the item from my cart, add it back, enter my contact info at the beginning, then no problem. Plus, the exchange rate of US$ and € is pretty good right now for peeps buying with US$.
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/26 15:38:04
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Follow-up
What I wound up being offered for download was GrooveExtractor Lite Full. The first time you run it, it will prompt for a key. So far...I dunno. Need to try a couple of different approaches. One thing I've noticed is that GE creates a MIDI type 0 file, not type 1 (which I would have expected, with each of the 3 or 5 extracted grooves having its own track).
Took me a bit of time to find it. SONAR categorizes it as a VST2 Instrument (grooveextractor_lite).
Kind of "tricky" not to mention "LITE" on their web page. That would suggest that they've got a greater functionality version coming. For more money. We shall see.
More later.
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/26 15:39:32
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The Paypal conversion is always MORE then the current conversion rate... That I found out from dealing with Time+Space and BestService... $10.30...with the Paypal conversion of .87 when the current is .89... But it's only a few cents...
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/26 16:08:06
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/06/26 18:34:44
cclarry
The Paypal conversion is always MORE then the current conversion rate...
That I found out from dealing with Time+Space and BestService...
$10.30...with the Paypal conversion of .87 when the current is .89...
But it's only a few cents...
There you go again.....always willing to put your 2 cents in  All kidding aside I'm curious about this one Mr. Maartian. Thanks for following up. Rocky
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/26 16:17:35
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Well, they did make a "Remo Williams - The Adventure Begins".
I'm still waiting.
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/26 17:44:09
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/06/26 18:34:17
cclarry
I think I might have to bite the bullet and plunk down a Hamilton
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/26 17:49:12
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That much I can afford. Done.
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/26 18:30:12
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Or Scents for that matter 
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/26 19:58:06
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It might be a cool plugin...I don't know if I need it, but it could be a cool thing.
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/27 00:51:06
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/06/27 15:53:32
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bluzdog
There you go again.....always willing to put your 2 cents in
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/27 15:28:59
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Some daws already do this. Doesn't Sonar?
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/27 15:48:56
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kitekrazy1
Some daws already do this. Doesn't Sonar?
Drum Replaces does "some" of this at the moment...it can't do Hi-Hat and Cymbal detection (yet) If this thing does what it says it does for $10 it would be a no brainer IMO...
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/28 12:42:23
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Here's what I've found out so far. 1) Created a simple instrument track for grooveextractor_lite 2) Created another instrument tract for Addictive Drums 2 3) Set up routing 4) Opened Groove Extractor (GE) 5) Dragged an Aaron Comess drum loop into GE (DrySwunk_Verse01_100bpm.wav) 6) Face palm! REMEMBER to switch from Electronic detection to Acoustics 7) Opened the step sequencer 8) Dragged the resulting MIDI into the step sequencer 9) Adjusted the key mapping to match up with AD2's default keymap (kick was ok (36); the other four needed remapping) Bingo! Worked like a charm. Of course, the resulting audio from AD2 was no where near the original loop, but that's not the point. The issue I still have is if you create an intermediate MIDI file, it will be Type 0 and not Type 1, so that needs to be followed up on.
post edited by TheMaartian - 2015/06/28 12:50:01
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/29 11:15:26
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I used to have dollars, then I subscribed to this forum and now can't afford to give my 2 cents!! I still have scents at times, go ahead and ask my wife or little dude.
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/06/29 22:20:18
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"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl" (Wish You Were Here)
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/08/08 12:43:24
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For anyone who picked this up, the v1.1 update is available for download. Plus, a manual has been added.
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/08/11 08:52:25
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I would be interested in this, although I've noticed that the audio demos on the site only feature very simple grooves, nothing too fast or involved. Can anyone tell me how it fares with some all-out Billy Cobham style mayhem?
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/08/11 11:48:02
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Groove Extractor? Extract the groove and what do you have? Modern pop music. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/08/11 22:10:41
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"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl" (Wish You Were Here)
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/08/11 23:10:23
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I wouldn't mind having it either...If it works. Some reviews would be great!
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/08/31 11:13:22
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FYI Hi all, We have recently updated GrooveExtractor to version 1.1 with two handy features: 1. tempo box: Manually enter the BPM for the output MIDI file 2. preceding silence option: In the option menu (click GrooveExtractor logo), one can choose to align the first onset as the first beat. This is handy if one cuts part of a sound file to create groove loops. AudioGaming Support Team 
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Re: GrooveExtractor
2015/08/31 19:14:11
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While the resultant MIDI requires "cleaning up" it's not bad...could end up
being quite a time saver. Another thought is to record your drummer, then generate MIDI,
from his tracks and replace with the any Drum sound you want...
My next experiment will be to try to isolate a drum track from a song, and
then export it as a wave file and see how well this converts it...
This could be quite a useful tool in the long haul...and, since this is considered "lite",
maybe the full version (if and when it becomes available?), will do much better, and
offer more functionality...so, for a $10 investment, you're on the upgrade path to
the (maybe) full version?
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