Guess I'm just stupid?

Check out our CakeTV videos. Answers to this and other similar questions are in the Get Started section. In fact, we have a video just for getting started with X1's new tools and editing. It's called Tools and Editing.

http://www.cakewalk.com/CakeTV/SONARU.aspx

SP

Hey Frank,

Thanks very much for reading my book! Yes, you can find info on working with automation and envelopes in Chapter 12.

I've also started posting some free videos... one of which covers this topic.
Check it out at: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/video.asp?ID=6

And find more videos here: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/videos.asp

Scott

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* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series: http://www.garrigus.com/
* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar ProAudioTutor video tutorial series: http://www.proaudiotutor.com/
* Publisher of the DigiFreq free music technology newsletter: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/
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Do you want the long or short answer stratman?

I can see what you mean stratman70 as I've struggled at times with the "Smart Tool".  So, count me in as one of the "stupid".

Tom

Let's keep in mind that "intuitive" and "what I am used to" are not the same thing.

To my mind, the smart tool is far more intuitive than than the tools in 8.xx.

I doubt the OP is stupid, but, as with any new thing, you have to learn it, and then use it enough to get comfortable with it; then, like magic, it becomes "intuitive."

X1 is superior to 8.xx, IMO, but to reap the benefits, it takes a little effort and a couple paradigm shifts.

spanky





They are very intuitive, you just have to get used to them..

Something which "you just have to get used to" is exactly the opposite of "intuitive."  The latter means that one can tell how to use tools in a program just by the way they're logically laid out.  If something takes more time to learn, it's not necessarily a bad thing - a lot of the meat in software isn't immediately obvious.  - Don't know why, just felt moved to say that.  I guess I just see "intuitive" being used so often when it really doesn't apply.

Randy B.

rbowser

spanky





They are very intuitive, you just have to get used to them..

Something which "you just have to get used to" is exactly the opposite of "intuitive."  The latter means that one can tell how to use tools in a program just by the way they're logically laid out.  If something takes more time to learn, it's not necessarily a bad thing - a lot of the meat in software isn't immediately obvious.  - Don't know why, just felt moved to say that.  I guess I just see "intuitive" being used so often when it really doesn't apply.

Randy B.

Hmm... I do't know. Maybe when you are used to the "old" 8.5 interface it is more difficult to adapt to X1. I can only say it costed me less time to switch from 8.5 to X1 than it took me to learn to use the 8.5 interface. And now I am used to X1 I would not go back to the "old" interface. For me (and that is strictly me - i cannot speak for anyone else), the X1 interface is indeed more "clear" then the 8.5 interface ever was...

But - everyone his likings....

Now - excuse me. I have to go to the next concert. I am having a great time here at the "North Sea Jazz Festival". Just saw Paul Simon and B.B. King.. Time for Alain Clark and Larry Graham... Or maybe Michiel Borstlap... man...  too much choice here...

See you all...

Alegria

"Skyline-UK"

None of these videos load for me.  I use IE9.  Is there a problem with IE9 and these videos?

Flash based videos. Flash ins't available for IE9... yet.

Thanks Alegria.
That's just great.  Why don't those toe rags at MSoft tell you on the IE9 puff pages?  "Oh, by the way besides being fast and whizzy in all respects, here are things IE9 can't see and do." 

Skyline_UK
None of these videos load for me.  I use IE9.  Is there a problem with IE9 and these videos?

Hey John,

Are you having the same problem with the videos over at DigiFreq? Just curious...
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/videos.asp

Firefox works great, by the way.

Scott

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Scott R. Garrigus
* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series: http://www.garrigus.com/
* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar ProAudioTutor video tutorial series: http://www.proaudiotutor.com/
* Publisher of the DigiFreq free music technology newsletter: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/
* Publisher of the NewTechReview free consumer technology newsletter: http://www.newtechreview.com/newtechreview/

garrigus

Skyline_UK
None of these videos load for me.  I use IE9.  Is there a problem with IE9 and these videos?

Hey John,

Are you having the same problem with the videos over at DigiFreq? Just curious...
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/videos.asp

Firefox works great, by the way.  

Scott,
 
Here's a summary of what I've found with some experimentation:
 
- All your videos work for me in IE9 32 bit. 
- The Cakewalk videos will only work in IE9 32 bit if I click the tiny 'Compatibility' mode button at the top of the IE9 screen.
- Neither your videos nor Cakewalk's work in IE9 64 bit even if the 'Compatibility' mode button is clicked.
 
Are your videos in Flash like Cakewalk's?  Odd that yours work straight off without having invoke compatibility mode.
 
John
   

I agree with all the responses to my post. Had I read Scotts book or watched the video, yes I would have avoided frustration. But I also agree with RandyB. I ama retired Computer Tech but still have a day job using a computer all day long. I am a power user IMHO.  
I'm an old dog, many years as a M$Certified tech, made a good living. But even typing in envelope"anything" in the help got me no where.
 
I do realize that 853 was very similar to all the rest of the Sonars. So, I guess I expected some of the same. I still have a positive outlook on X1.
I am just so used to launching a software program (any program) and being able to get around nicely without reading anything.
 
I suppose the point here for me is: X1 is digfferent and you have to really read a bit and watch a few vids.
 
So I will
 
Thanks to everyone-That includes you too Bub

mikey


"First time I even tried this 853-it was a piece of cake."


853 was an earlier version of Sonar, in the "past", right Stratman?




; ) 




Hey at least Cake's paying attention to things here and providing links. Thats worth the admission price any day...

Right before X1. But since you have been here since 2003 obviously you knew that.

Skyline_UK
Are your videos in Flash like Cakewalk's?  Odd that yours work straight off without having invoke compatibility mode.
 
John    

Yep, the videos over at DigiFreq use Flash. That's how most videos are posted on the Internet, including YouTube.

Scott

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Scott R. Garrigus
* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series: http://www.garrigus.com/
* Author of the Cakewalk Sonar ProAudioTutor video tutorial series: http://www.proaudiotutor.com/
* Publisher of the DigiFreq free music technology newsletter: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/
* Publisher of the NewTechReview free consumer technology newsletter: http://www.newtechreview.com/newtechreview/