Guitar Inadequacy

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October 09, 11 12:16 AM (permalink)

Guitar Inadequacy

I've always considered myself a good guitarist.  For the last 20 years, I've been able to play exactly what i've wanted to play, and I'm pretty confident in my abilities.   I've never been able to play lightning-speed lines like Malmsteen or Satriani, but that's never been an interest anyway.
 
Last night I went to see Bryan Ferry live.  After all the bands i've seen in 25 years of concert-going, this was hands-down the best show of my life.  I've been a fan since the mid-80s, when he had David Gilmour and Mark Knopfler in his studio band.  Even so, with all the synthy ballads in his repertoire, I was surprised how guitar-oriented the set was.  The real shocker was hearing what his guitarist, Chris Spedding, could do.  I was in awe.  Every note was perfect, I wouldn't have changed a thing.  And i've never seen someone play such complicated slide-guitar riffs...
 
I HAD planned to improve my piano skills over the winter, but last night that all changed.  I realized how rusty my guitar skills are, and am putting everything else on the backburner. 
 
I gotta get my chops back!!! 
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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 09, 11 12:34 AM (permalink)
    Inspiration is always welcome. 

    Seeing someone who can play always inspires me. 

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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 09, 11 12:37 AM (permalink)
    Chris is an old pro and a great player.  He is indeed, killer diller.  Great to hear also of another fan of ol Bryan.  He is one unique critter.  I love him too!
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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 09, 11 3:45 PM (permalink)
    LOL,

    Chris has been around donkeys years and has 'appeared' on more hit records and albums than I've had hot dinners.

    If you are going to be blown away by somebody it may as well be one of the best.  Besides, the fact you are able to pick out and acknowledge somebody like that speaks volumes about your own ear for the good stuff.

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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 09, 11 3:52 PM (permalink)
    Slugbaby - Thanks for the tip. 

    I'd agree that it's always great to see and hear great players.  The exception, for me, was in college (decades ago) when my friend and drummer laid his hands on an album called "World's Greatest Unknown Guitarists".  They were all great and, true to the title, I hadn't heard of any of them.  That really took the wind out of my sails.

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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 09, 11 4:14 PM (permalink)
    Actually, thinking about it has Bryan Ferry ever gone out with a less than stellar line-up?

    I can't think of one.

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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 09, 11 5:51 PM (permalink)
    Avalon - Best make-out CD ever.

     
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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 09, 11 6:07 PM (permalink)
    I had forgotten about Brian Ferry... and I used to dig listening to some of his LPs... I agree, Avalon is a very good album. I have it on LP. I have a 70s Sansui stereo setup that is just slamming for LPs. Maybe i'll fire it up this week and listen to Avalon.

    There is ALWAYS someone around the corner that makes me either want to go to the woodshed or just hang it up (not an option really.. I know my limitations). Some people have a special touch, usually those people who have played and practiced over 10,000 hours. It's funny how that works.

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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 09, 11 7:00 PM (permalink)
    I was always a bigger fan of Ferry's early '70s stuff (his solo version of Casanova gives me chills), but he opened the show with The Main Thing from Avalon and it practically exploded through the PA.

    I have to woodshed, no hanging up or resting.  I've been invited to fill in for a few months next spring with a local band, and there's NO WAY i'll set foot onstage without being on top form.  And the bar just got raised.

    I saw Ferry in 1988, and the show was great then (if a little dated).  And i've seen DVD clips of his work with Spedding, but the work CS did last night blew away anything else i've heard him do.
    Now I'm kicking myself for not bothering to see him do a solo performance at a local bar last year.
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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 09, 11 11:22 PM (permalink)
    Hi Slug,

    Your a great musician because of your great and positive attitude.

    You will get back your chops,

    I seriously  doubt you ever lost them..............you just found some new ones 


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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 10, 11 8:06 AM (permalink)
    I listen to the shreders and think...man I wish I could do that.... it does sound so cool, but then I think... it takes all kinds of players to make the musical world go round. And do I really want to be like all the rest? 

    If Mark Knoppler had learned to shred, would there have been a Dire Straits.... or imagine Carlos Santana shreding instead of developing his sweet soulful tone. And I could go on and on..... BB King, George Benson, Roy Clark, Les Paul, Chet Atkins....... 

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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 10, 11 8:30 AM (permalink)
    mmmmm...well...with my stumpy fingers and such I kinda sorta can do the shred business...kinda sloppy like.

    But I am more of a melodic/spacy player for all that.

    I'm nowhere near as good as some of you guys though...I really need to woodshed a lot more.

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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 10, 11 9:23 AM (permalink)
    You know what?

    Due to various things happening in my life - I haven't picked a guitar up in nearly 3 months.

    By the time I do get around to it again, it'll take a month or more just to build those calluses back up again.

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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 12, 11 8:09 AM (permalink)
    Ha, thanks for the encouragement guys!
    At the moment, i'm on holiday with my wife.  We're celebrating our first anniversary with a week in a Muskoka cottage.  What she didn't expect is that I brought a guitar!
    While she sits reading, i've been playing for a good 6-8 hours daily.  Now I see how the pros do it - they don't have to work for a living!!!

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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 12, 11 8:27 AM (permalink)
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    In the illustrious words of Bapu...... Bapu Am what Bapu does...Bless his heart.

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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 12, 11 12:11 AM (permalink)
    While she sits reading, i've been playing for a good 6-8 hours daily.



    I'm gonna try and do the same  while I' recovering from upcoming neck surgery.
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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 13, 11 6:20 PM (permalink)
    Hi,
     
    You will find Chris in just about in all the early stuff on the Hipgnosis label. He's probably the reason why Roy Harper and Kevin Ayers ... HAD to have a rocker on each album or he wouldn't help! Probably the "house guitarist" for many Hipgnosis groups/projects in the early days, I bet! (Mike Oldfield got his start playing for Kevin Ayers originally it looks like)
     
    Absolutely very good and there are a lot of very nice things he has done that I love dearly ... I think it was a Pete Brown album, a song "My Love Has Gone Away" is astounding, and I think that he is the main guitarist duk'ing it out with Gilmour on Roy's "Playing the Game Pts 1-5" on his Headquarters album. And you can tell that Gilmour had to play ... an dprobably learn't all his riffs for "The Wall" on that recording session! If you have never heard this long opus piece, you are missing a massive rocker!
     
    And the drummer for almost all these? ... an even better and more under-rated players ... Steve Broughton who had that other band with his brother and is/was a magnificent drummer! I think he was the resident drummer for the Hipgnosis projects/groups also!

    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 13, 11 6:22 PM (permalink)
    Slugbaby


    ...  Now I see how the pros do it - they don't have to work for a living!!!
    You corrupted the rock'n'roll story ... they play so they can have fun with the girl ... you silly jock ... why bother otherwise when there are so many of them pickers looking for jobs?


    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 14, 11 2:19 AM (permalink)
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    Hi,
     
    You will find Chris in just about in all the early stuff on the Hipgnosis label. He's probably the reason why Roy Harper and Kevin Ayers ... HAD to have a rocker on each album or he wouldn't help! Probably the "house guitarist" for many Hipgnosis groups/projects in the early days, I bet! (Mike Oldfield got his start playing for Kevin Ayers originally it looks like)
     
    Absolutely very good and there are a lot of very nice things he has done that I love dearly ... I think it was a Pete Brown album, a song "My Love Has Gone Away" is astounding, and I think that he is the main guitarist duk'ing it out with Gilmour on Roy's "Playing the Game Pts 1-5" on his Headquarters album. And you can tell that Gilmour had to play ... an dprobably learn't all his riffs for "The Wall" on that recording session! If you have never heard this long opus piece, you are missing a massive rocker!
     
    And the drummer for almost all these? ... an even better and more under-rated players ... Steve Broughton who had that other band with his brother and is/was a magnificent drummer! I think he was the resident drummer for the Hipgnosis projects/groups also!


    I thought Hipgnosis were graphic designers/sleeve artists..did they have a record label too?

     
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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 14, 11 6:45 AM (permalink)

    Pedant...

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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 14, 11 12:13 AM (permalink)
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    Pedant...


    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< always have been..

     
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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 14, 11 7:38 PM (permalink)
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    I thought Hipgnosis were graphic designers/sleeve artists..did they have a record label too?
    Correct .. my bad ... Hipgnosis are the artists (also did all those covers, btw) and HARVEST is the label ... but they are so synonimous with each other that it's hard to separate them, for me. I started my odd ball collection of music with the Harvest Breakfast Ingredients! ... see if you know what this was/is!


    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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    Re:Guitar Inadequacy October 14, 11 7:55 PM (permalink)
    Harvest - thanks, i'll definitely be checking that out!

    I heard he was also a Womble, which was a childhood favourite of mine.

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