Guitar vs. Piano chord question

dlogan

Is an A2 chord on piano really a sus2 chord?? 
 

Beagle


typically when it's written Xsus then it's understood to be sus4

Not sure I'm following what you mean here.
D2 = DEA
F# for bass would be F# so the F# is not the 3rd of the D2 chord.  or did I misunderstand what you meant?

Yeah when I say "third", I meant in the third of the scale (major) not the chord.

As far as what a 2 chord is, I've looked other places online that give different answers. Some say a 2 chord and a sus2 are not the same - that a 2 chord is really an "add 9" chord.

I guess what I'm saying about the bass playing the F# under a D2 chord is the sus chord is raising the 3rd, but the bass note is still playind the 3rd. You and Murray said don't play a major chord over a sus chord because it will sound bad (I was presuming because of the inclusion of the 3rd in the major chord). So it seemed like playing the 3rd on bass under a sus chord would be the same issue. Maybe not...

mgh


some interesting debate here. some weird things

Take for instance A9. Most guitarist will include the 7th (G) when they play it. What would it be without the 7th?  Answer Aadd9- Confusion could be avoided if we called the A9, A7add 9. But we "shorthand" assuming it's known, I guess.

err why would most guitarists play the 7th? i'd play x-0-2-2-0-0 or x-0-7-6-0-0 if i wanted the third in there. adding a (minor) seventh changes the chord character totally. unless this is why i can never play 'jazz'?!
if i just saw Asus as a chord i would assume Asus4 cos the 'suspension' comes from the fact it's neither major or minor and can resolve to either. Of course, Asus2 is technically the same as Esus4, so maybe that's why the 'sus2' bit occurs...aw sheesh, let's just carry on...

mgh


well i dunno, for me x-12-11-12-12-x would be A7add9. but hey, i'm prob wrong!
hey yeah you added to your post after i read the original. maybe it's because i was taught on piano first, all that music theory stuff. if you said 'c' chord then yeah, if i was on guitar i'd play  c major, or if written in a guitar chord book as 'C', then yeah we know it's a major. but if i was sat at the piano i'd prob wanna know major or minor...

spacey


Dave you found their mistake on the D2 chord.

I would call their C2 chord, C add9.

Easy to get confused. As I noted the reasons why it can be for guitarist.

If we're givin a "rule" to name that says; "every note up to the extension is included"
and then "but's" like well the 11th is missing but it's still a 13th.

"By the rules" a 13th should be 1-3-5-b7-9-11-13 ...a keyboardist may play all of those..I don't know. But guitarist playing a six string guitar won't.

Of course, what do I know? Just trying to help.


I can't see my mistakes until I post...weird.

Anyway, that's the 5 cent version... music theory is cool, it's important to understand, and it will help most people be better players. BUT, in the end it's how it sounds that really matters!

if you're playing guitar along with a piano part that is playing an A2 chord, do you play an Asus or an A major on guitar?

Is one of them "technically" more correct?

Is an A2 chord on piano really a sus2 chord??

drewfx1

Ultimately the chord is defined by all the instuments in combination ...
 
What we're really talking about here is arranging - not just "what chord is it?" but "who plays what notes from a complex chord". And a good arranger will almost never have every instrument play every note in a complex chord.