GuitarLink Cable---how to get it to work?

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GuitarLink Cable---how to get it to work?

Hello,
 
I have 5LE and have a question about the guitar 1/4 to USB cable that came with it.
 
I can't seem to get the DAW to recognize it so I can use it with IK's Amplitube plugin (for example) for recording guitar tracks.
 
I'm using ASIO and Windows Vista.
 
The PC does recognize the device and states that the drivers were successfuly loaded etc...but my DAW (when opened afterward) doesn't show anything in either the midi or audio ins/outs sections.
 
As far as I know, no other interface is needed; I've searched out similar products (Alesis for ex.) and their write-up says it's---
  • Compatible with most Mac and Windows class-compliant drivers and software  
    I have NOT checked the ASIO control panel yet...got too late last night!
     
    Any help would be great...thank you in advance!
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      Re:GuitarLink Cable---how to get it to work? 2012/04/30 10:59:56 (permalink)
      Did you install the drivers that came with the cable gizmo thing? 

      Generally, those cable USB things are hit or miss... some folks can get them operational and some can not. 

      Using the correct driver is critical. 

      Then, after a reboot, open 5LE and look in the audio menu for inputs....and see if it is showing up. That is where it should be.  Then select it as the input and select the computer sound card for output. 

      Since you are using 2 different sound cards you might encounter problems. 

      It's always best to use a dedicated audio interface, not one of the cable USB gizmos. 

      Good luck. 

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      Re:GuitarLink Cable---how to get it to work? 2012/04/30 12:54:21 (permalink)
      Do you mean ASIO4All?
      Did you do these steps outlined on the Alesis site?
       
      http://www.alesis.com/guitarlink
       
      You may also need to be running MC 5 as Administrator.
       

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      Re:GuitarLink Cable---how to get it to work? 2012/04/30 14:10:06 (permalink)
      Thanks Herb...nice website---good tips---and a whole lot of tunes on soundclick...sheesh...you're getting some great, great sounds.  You have me curious about focusrite now...and JS seems very cool!

      Keep up the great work...

      (A fellow Christian rocker from Maryland) :)
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      Re:GuitarLink Cable---how to get it to work? 2012/04/30 14:14:11 (permalink)
      Hi Greg...thanks...here is a possible "key" from the site:
       
      In Windows Vista, go to Start Menu > Settings > Control Panel > Sound (or select "Switch to Classic View" if you don't see "Sound" as an option). Click on the "Recording" tab and select "Microphone – C-Media USB Audio Device" as the default device. Click "OK."
       
      I think I might have deselected this...errr...I'll have to check.
       
      :)

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      Re:GuitarLink Cable---how to get it to work? 2012/04/30 21:43:53 (permalink)
      Flan, when you get the rig working, PM me with a link to some of your music.  Or better yet, put your website in you signature so we can listen. 

      Keep us posted. 

      Jamstix is a good drum synth for someone who does not play drums like me.  There are a few other nice tools out there to do drums the easy way as well..... 

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      Re:GuitarLink Cable---how to get it to work? 2012/05/01 10:39:36 (permalink)
      Hi Herb,
       
      I believe this will work now.  I brought up Window's "Recording Devices" and identified the guitar/usb input---witnessed level deflection when I touched the chord tip...so voila...next time I get a chance, I'll test it for sure plugged in with a vst and all...I'm sure it's a go.
       
      I may have deselected or disabled it prior without realizing it (it was LATE)...brain starts to shut down around 10pm.
       
      I'll send you a message...fyi:  Not a user of this product...though MC looks very intuitive.  For now, I've been a slave to an old dog from Mackie...I have the Tracktion 3 Ultimate DAW.  I still like the flow and it's easy to use for this near 42 year old.  Ha!  Mixcraft looks very cool too...
       
      Drums for me are a subject indeed!  I'm old school of course.  When I started tracking on an old Tascam 424 (cassette---eeek!) I programmed my own drums with a Roland DR-660 (which I STILL HAVE)...wow...anyway, who's got time for that!  Plus, it was limiting of course...so...
       
      I entered into the DAW/PC realm back in 2008, bought a Yamaha Motif XS-6, and went from there.  I happen to have DrumCore 3 (which I don't/have not used much), the Motif has great sounds/arpeggios, and finally, I got involved with PG Music's Band in a Box software (which is insane)...
       
      So far, it's an amalgum of Motif starter drums...which I ultimately tweak to suit the song by hand...there's a ton of material and possibilities at my finger tips...and that's part of the problem I'll bet.  I'd like an easier way...JS might be the ticket...who knows?
       
      Too many toys, not enough dough...and even less time.
       
      Gotta run...
       
       
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      Re:GuitarLink Cable---how to get it to work? 2012/05/01 15:34:55 (permalink)
      I'm pushing 58 this year... so I'm not exactly a young gun anymore. 

      This stuff is easy enough to learn...I just wish the tools I have now would have been around 35 years ago...... born too early I recon. 

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      Re:GuitarLink Cable---how to get it to work? 2012/05/02 08:32:05 (permalink)
      Herb,
       
      I got a chance to toy with the cursed thing last night.  I must say, it was contankerous.
       
      Vista did some weird thing...and I'm almost positive the behavior is attributed to the junky stock sound card.  Seems the PC can only route ONE (audio) signal at a time, whether it is Line In or that USB thing.  My usual Line In input option went away/dissapeared in my DAW audio input options...strange.
       
      I really, really need a dedicated device, at least a 4 ch input.  I've been "limping" along with the stock sound card for years and I'm growing a bit tired of its limitations truthfully.
       
      Anywhoser---the guitar/usb chord thing was "ok" I guess.  It exhibited some strange artifacts---like a very low level "beep-----beep----beep".
       
      The latency was "manageable"; ASIO Direct Mode made things a little better; however, I was working it in a mix that was pretty audio laiden...and bumping up the buffer to like 11ms still resulted in hiccups (anyway, I could "freeze" my tracks and solve that).
       
      Signal levels were kind of all over the place too:  At first the dry signal would clip, so I went around tweaking the Input level of the vst---then (in experimentation) got to tweaking the USB's "Mic" parameters in Window's Record Playback Devices...because at low/lower levels it seemed the vst wasn't getting enough to sound, what I perceived to be, good or better than it did....errrrr.
       
      This final attempt resulted in a waveform that was highly compressed (somehow)...wow...hardly any dynamics...*sigh*...I digress...then my brain died and I went to bed.
       
      The Amplitube is a semi-lite version, and I'm sure it can perform better with the right interface.
       
      For now though, it is discouraging enough to put away and stick with a direct processed signal from my Line6 POD (just like yours)...though I do enjoy the benefits of tweaking the dry signal with the vst aftwards to dial in a sound vs. re-recording the whole thing...THAT is cool indeed...old hat to some, but new to me.
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      Re:GuitarLink Cable---how to get it to work? 2012/05/02 09:14:23 (permalink)
      the addition of a good Interface will make a huge difference. 

      remember that the version of cake (5LE) probably only handles 2 inputs at a time. All of the MC line is 2 inputs at a time. So if you need 4 inputs to the DAW then you should look at X1 and the interface will be more expensive in order to give you more inputs. 

      If you can deal with 2 inputs, a small mixer would allow more instruments to be recorded, it's just that they would be crammed into 2 tracks/inputs. 

      But.... everything I record is done on one track at a time....everything!

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      Re:GuitarLink Cable---how to get it to work? 2012/05/02 11:53:42 (permalink)
      It exhibited some strange artifacts---like a very low level "beep-----beep----beep".

       
      If you're using Amplitube and haven't registered it, it will make a beep every few seconds. The beeps go away after you've registered it.

      Greg 
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