robbyk
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HD partition or 2nd internal drive
I'm now rectifying a past mistake; I didn't partition my HD when I 1st started using Sonar years ago but I'm now paying dearly for it as my projects have gotten more complex, etc.
Quick question, can I just add a 2nd internal HD and move my audio over or do I need to go through the process of partitioning my current drive (750 GB, 400GB free)?
Is there a difference?
Thanks! Robby
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/25 18:26:03
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robbyk
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/25 18:33:17
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Thanks so much! I was hoping that would be the answer as both a western and a seagate are on sale today.
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/25 19:21:40
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I don't partition drives anymore. There's no performance benefit and it just puts a barrier where one is not needed.
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robbyk
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/25 19:54:16
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daveny5
I don't partition drives anymore. There's no performance benefit and it just puts a barrier where one is not needed.
That doesn't sound right, even with all the recommended audio tweaks in place I'm assuming having the audio on a drive with the OS is a bit conflicting. If I don't see a difference (less droputs, crashes) on my more complex projects (60 tracks + plugins, automation, etc.) I'll be disappointed.
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/25 23:02:32
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daveny5
I don't partition drives anymore. There's no performance benefit and it just puts a barrier where one is not needed.
That doesn't sound right, even with all the recommended audio tweaks in place I'm assuming having the audio on a drive with the OS is a bit conflicting. If I don't see a difference (less droputs, crashes) on my more complex projects (60 tracks + plugins, automation, etc.) I'll be disappointed.
I didn't say not to put them on separate drives, I said don't split a single drive into multiple partitions.
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/25 23:19:44
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I don't partition drives anymore. There's no performance benefit and it just puts a barrier where one is not needed.
That doesn't sound right, even with all the recommended audio tweaks in place I'm assuming having the audio on a drive with the OS is a bit conflicting. If I don't see a difference (less droputs, crashes) on my more complex projects (60 tracks + plugins, automation, etc.) I'll be disappointed.
I didn't say not to put them on separate drives, I said don't split a single drive into multiple partitions.
Ahh, I got you! Thanks for the clarification! Do you have a 3rd drive for samples?
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/25 23:44:29
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Ahh, I got you! Thanks for the clarification! Do you have a 3rd drive for samples? No. I don't use samples.
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/26 04:34:39
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I don't partition drives anymore. There's no performance benefit and it just puts a barrier where one is not needed.
That doesn't sound right, even with all the recommended audio tweaks in place I'm assuming having the audio on a drive with the OS is a bit conflicting. If I don't see a difference (less droputs, crashes) on my more complex projects (60 tracks + plugins, automation, etc.) I'll be disappointed.
I didn't say not to put them on separate drives, I said don't split a single drive into multiple partitions.
Ahh, I got you! Thanks for the clarification! Do you have a 3rd drive for samples?
Yes! If you're running any of the current crop of big libraries like BFD2, EWQLSO, Kontakt etc a 3rd drive is almost compulsory. DON'T have any sort of "green" drive anywhere inside your machine
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/26 05:17:48
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Green Drives are fine for backing up or archiving.
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/26 05:53:10
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I do have some green 1TB drives. Allso for audio. No issues here. Just set them in SYSTEM at full throttle allways. That'll make em less green instantly. When I did so a lil robot came out took off the hood of the puter and painted the disk grey... It now matches the interior like a glove...
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/26 13:55:22
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I have a second internal hd for project & adio only and a 3rd external hd for BFD2. Everything works great!!! Makes sense, if one hard drive has to spin to accomodate OS and Audio, that puts a bigger burden on that drive. Now I have one hd dedicated to OS/Programs, One dedicated to data and the last for drums. A friend of mine also pointed out that when HDs spin continuously they can heat up. Not sure if it is tru, but sound logical. anyway, my 2 cents.
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/26 14:17:27
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Hey guys. Can I ask...Do you only use an additional HD for the audio (wav files), or for 'all' project related files?
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/26 14:29:05
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I use the data drive for the audio files and the *.cwp files only. Now that you are asking, I am wondering if I should have the *.cwp files there.
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
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Hey guys. Can I ask...Do you only use an additional HD for the audio (wav files), or for 'all' project related files? C: OS/Apps D: Audio (each project file in separate folder with accompanying audio files) E: Samples
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/26 14:58:44
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What "Samples" are you storing off the 3rd drive??
I have 2 drives right now, one for OS and apps (all sonar content is loaded onto this).
Another is for projects, drum samples I make myself, and other fiddly things I backup and use.
So I'm just curious what kind of samples you guys put on another drive. If it's samples for BFD and all, do you install the actual app on that 3rd drive or just the samples and tell BFD where to find em?
Sorry for a very newb question.
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/26 15:06:27
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What "Samples" are you storing off the 3rd drive?? The "Samples" HD is dedicated to "disk-streaming" sample libraries. Only the libraries are located on this HD (not the plugins). This yields maximum disk-streaming polyphony. For maximum performance, you don't want your audio files and disk-streaming libraries streaming from the same physical drive.
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/27 15:57:59
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Jim Roseberry
What "Samples" are you storing off the 3rd drive??
The "Samples" HD is dedicated to "disk-streaming" sample libraries.
Only the libraries are located on this HD (not the plugins).
Thanks again all for the help, my drive should be here on Mon. Here it is: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7281716&SRCCODE=WEBLET03SHIP&cm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03SHIP-_-03ship So two questions left for clarification: 1. Regarding streaming audio: Is Toontrack EZ Drummer streaming? This 3rd drive for samples can be a USB external? Correct? 2. Once I install the 2nd internal drive, I simply move the contents of C:\Cakewalk Projects to D:\Cakewalk Projects and I presume I have to point Sonar to this new location. Correct? Thanks much again!!!
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Re:HD partition or 2nd internal drive
2012/04/27 16:34:08
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I don't partition drives anymore. There's no performance benefit and it just puts a barrier where one is not needed.
That doesn't sound right, even with all the recommended audio tweaks in place I'm assuming having the audio on a drive with the OS is a bit conflicting. If I don't see a difference (less droputs, crashes) on my more complex projects (60 tracks + plugins, automation, etc.) I'll be disappointed.
I didn't say not to put them on separate drives, I said don't split a single drive into multiple partitions.
Ahh, I got you! Thanks for the clarification! Do you have a 3rd drive for samples?
Yes! If you're running any of the current crop of big libraries like BFD2, EWQLSO, Kontakt etc a 3rd drive is almost compulsory.
DON'T have any sort of "green" drive anywhere inside your machine
How big is big, my EZ Drummer librray is 4.5GB and I just bought the Twisted kit at Time space today. Should I move that to my external?
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