HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI

Page: 12 > Showing page 1 of 2
Author
musicmarkck
Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 55
  • Joined: 2015/08/13 11:59:02
  • Status: offline
2016/01/23 12:48:12 (permalink)

HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI

Can anyone please advise? I have my Tyros 2 MIDI-linked to Sonar X1 Producer via USB. There is definitely a connection, I can choose different sounds and then play them using the Tyros. Trouble is, there is a short, but crucial, delay between me playing a note and hearing it. It seems to register immediately on the volume gauge in X1, but doesn't sound until a second later. I have tried all the settings I can think of to put this right, but nothing makes any difference of any kind. Your advice would be hugely appreciated.
 
#1

35 Replies Related Threads

    tlw
    Max Output Level: -49.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2567
    • Joined: 2008/10/11 22:06:32
    • Location: West Midlands, UK
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/23 13:11:05 (permalink)
    The problem is most probably latency - the amount of time it takes for the software and PC to process the MIDI, create the sound and send it out to the audio interface. The latency can be adjusted either in Sonar's preferences or in the software provided by the audio interface manufacturer. There may be a need to tweak the PC/Windows to optimise it as well.
     
    It would be very helpful to know what your audio interface (or if you're using the PC's built-in sound card) is and whether it has ASIO drivers (and if you are using them). Without knowing that it's difficult to suggest where to start.

    Sonar Platinum 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit, I7 3770K Ivybridge, 16GB Ram, Gigabyte Z77-D3H m/board,
    ATI 7750 graphics+ 1GB RAM, 2xIntel 520 series 220GB SSDs, 1 TB Samsung F3 + 1 TB WD HDDs, Seasonic fanless 460W psu, RME Fireface UFX, Focusrite Octopre.
    Assorted real synths, guitars, mandolins, diatonic accordions, percussion, fx and other stuff.
    #2
    musicmarkck
    Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 55
    • Joined: 2015/08/13 11:59:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/23 13:19:50 (permalink)
    The USB lead from the Tyros is connected to a USB port on the PC. Don't think I can put it through my Edirol UA4FX external sound card. So it looks like (Control Panel - Sound - Playback) that I'll be using NVidia High Definition Audio. Is that likely to be right (this is fairly new to me)? But I can find no access to ASIO drivers, or anything else come to that. I have looked within Sonar and tried some tweaking, but it has no effect, positive or negative.
    #3
    Zargg
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 10666
    • Joined: 2014/09/28 04:20:14
    • Location: Norway
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/23 13:48:33 (permalink)
    Hi. Do you have the latest drivers and firmware for your Tyros2?
    If not / not sure, check http://download.yamaha.com/search/product/?site=europe.yamaha.com&language=en&category_id1=16277&category_id2=16084&category_id3=&product_id=107861
    Best of luck.

    Ken Nilsen
    Zargg
    BBZ
    Win 10 Pro X64, Cakewalk by Bandlab, SPlat X64, AMD AM3+ fx-8320, 16Gb RAM, RME Ucx (+ ARC), Tascam FW 1884, M-Audio Keystation 61es, *AKAI MPK Pro 25, *Softube Console1, Alesis DM6 USB, Maschine MkII
    Laptop setup: Win 10 X64, i5 2.4ghz, 8gb RAM, 320gb 7200 RPM HD, Focusrite Solo, + *
     
    #4
    Zargg
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 10666
    • Joined: 2014/09/28 04:20:14
    • Location: Norway
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/23 13:49:58 (permalink)
    And I would use your Edirol for the Tyros (playback and recording).
     

    Ken Nilsen
    Zargg
    BBZ
    Win 10 Pro X64, Cakewalk by Bandlab, SPlat X64, AMD AM3+ fx-8320, 16Gb RAM, RME Ucx (+ ARC), Tascam FW 1884, M-Audio Keystation 61es, *AKAI MPK Pro 25, *Softube Console1, Alesis DM6 USB, Maschine MkII
    Laptop setup: Win 10 X64, i5 2.4ghz, 8gb RAM, 320gb 7200 RPM HD, Focusrite Solo, + *
     
    #5
    Zargg
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 10666
    • Joined: 2014/09/28 04:20:14
    • Location: Norway
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/23 13:52:04 (permalink)
    Drivers for your Edirol, in case you do not have the latest version. http://roland.com/support/article/?q=downloads&p=UA-4FX
     
     

    Ken Nilsen
    Zargg
    BBZ
    Win 10 Pro X64, Cakewalk by Bandlab, SPlat X64, AMD AM3+ fx-8320, 16Gb RAM, RME Ucx (+ ARC), Tascam FW 1884, M-Audio Keystation 61es, *AKAI MPK Pro 25, *Softube Console1, Alesis DM6 USB, Maschine MkII
    Laptop setup: Win 10 X64, i5 2.4ghz, 8gb RAM, 320gb 7200 RPM HD, Focusrite Solo, + *
     
    #6
    dwardzala
    Max Output Level: -61 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1470
    • Joined: 2008/05/26 19:18:33
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/23 13:59:54 (permalink)
    It definitely sounds like latency.  Post your specs and ASIO settings for your Eridol.  I am sure that someone here can get you sorted out.

    Dave
    Main Studio- Core i5 @2.67GHz, 16Gb Ram, (2) 500Gb HDs, (1) 360 Gb HD
    MotU Ultralite AVB, Axiom 49 Midi Controller, Akai MPD18 Midi Controller
    Win10 x64 Home
    Sonar 2017.06 Platinum (and X3e, X2c, X1d)
     
    Mobile Studio - Sager NP8677 (i7-6700HQ @2.67MHz, 16G Ram, 250G SSD, 1T HD)
    M-Box Mini v. 2
    Win 10 x64 Home
    Sonar 2016.10 Platinum
     
    Check out my original music:
    https://soundcloud.com/d-wardzala/sets/d-wardzala-original-music
     
     
    #7
    musicmarkck
    Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 55
    • Joined: 2015/08/13 11:59:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/23 15:16:17 (permalink)
    Hi everyone. It sure sounds like latency. But I don't (currently) have a MIDI lead, so am using a USB connection, Tyros to PC. Bearing this in mind, exactly which settings should I be looking at and posting? By the way, thank you for your kindness.
    #8
    Paul P
    Max Output Level: -48.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2685
    • Joined: 2012/12/08 17:15:47
    • Location: Montreal
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/23 15:36:55 (permalink)
     
    Do you have monitors hooked up to your Edirol UA4FX to output your audio to ?  I suggest you keep your keyboard on usb direct in, then output your audio through your Edirol to your monitors.  You'll have to select the Edirol in your Preferences in Sonar.
     

    Sonar Platinum [2017.10], Win7U x64 sp1, Xeon E5-1620 3.6 GHz, Asus P9X79WS, 16 GB ECC, 128gb SSD, HD7950, Mackie Blackjack
    #9
    tlw
    Max Output Level: -49.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2567
    • Joined: 2008/10/11 22:06:32
    • Location: West Midlands, UK
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/23 20:22:30 (permalink)
    The problem isn't the USB cable from the Tyros. I'm not familiar with that synth, but a quick look at a downloaded manual seems to indicate the USB only handles MIDI and the editing/librarian software, not audio.

    If that's correct, then from Sonar's point of view the only thing coming and going via USB is MIDI.

    Latency is to do with audio processing, much more than MIDI.

    As you have the Edirol interface you do not need to use the NVidia hdmi driver. That is there so your graphics card can send audio down an HDMI cable to your monitor in case it has built in speakers. Some people have found that disabling HDMI audio drivers in Control Panel/Device Manager can go a long way towards curing apparently insoluble latency problems.

    Sonar does not use the audio drivers specified in the Windows sound settings. It uses whatever audio interface it is told to use in Sonar's own preferences.

    Are you using the sounds in the Tyros itself or using it as a MIDI controller to play other software synths?

    If you are using the Tyros as a synth, how are you hearing the audio from the Tyros? How exactly are the audio outputs connected, and connected to what? Are you using the "audio track echo" function in Sonar to hear it? If so, then the delay is caused by how long it is taking Sonar and the PC to receive the audio then process it and send it back out.

    To lower that delay you need to first check Sonar is using the Edirol. If ASIO drivers are available they will show up as an option. Download the latest drivers from Roland and install them first.

    Sonar Platinum 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit, I7 3770K Ivybridge, 16GB Ram, Gigabyte Z77-D3H m/board,
    ATI 7750 graphics+ 1GB RAM, 2xIntel 520 series 220GB SSDs, 1 TB Samsung F3 + 1 TB WD HDDs, Seasonic fanless 460W psu, RME Fireface UFX, Focusrite Octopre.
    Assorted real synths, guitars, mandolins, diatonic accordions, percussion, fx and other stuff.
    #10
    musicmarkck
    Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 55
    • Joined: 2015/08/13 11:59:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/24 07:13:34 (permalink)
    The current set-up is:
    1: Am using the Tyros as a controller. Have switched off the internal clock
    2: In Sonar, input is shown as being the Tyros. Output is through Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth (I tried using the Edirol, but could hear nothing)
    3: Track settings show Midi Channel 1, then whatever instrument voice I choose
    The delay is still there. Am tearing my hair out trying to get this to work. Any further advice would be hugely appreciated. If I can master this, I can avoid the need for a new music keyboard, which I can't afford anyway (my Tyros is working perfectly, but I am bored with using the same sounds all the time).
    Thankyou to everyone.
    #11
    gustabo
    Max Output Level: -49.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2591
    • Joined: 2009/01/05 17:32:38
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/24 07:27:21 (permalink)
    musicmarkck
    The current set-up is:
    1: Am using the Tyros as a controller. Have switched off the internal clock
    2: In Sonar, input is shown as being the Tyros. Output is through Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth (I tried using the Edirol, but could hear nothing)
    3: Track settings show Midi Channel 1, then whatever instrument voice I choose
    The delay is still there. Am tearing my hair out trying to get this to work. Any further advice would be hugely appreciated. If I can master this, I can avoid the need for a new music keyboard, which I can't afford anyway (my Tyros is working perfectly, but I am bored with using the same sounds all the time).
    Thankyou to everyone.


    You heard nothing through Edirol as an output because midi is data and that data wasn't driving anything.
    Use the Edirol as your output, insert a softsynth into Sonar, Tyros as the input and done.
    post edited by gustabo - 2016/01/24 07:53:46


    Cakewalk by Bandlab - Win10 Pro x64 - StudioCat Platinum Studio DAW - 32 GB Ram - MOTU UltraLite-mk3
    M-Audio Keystation 88ES - Akai MPD26 (hot-rodded) - Alesis DM10 - a few guitars, a few amps
    Novation Launch Control - Korg nanoKONTROL2 - PreSonus FaderPort - DAW Remote HD on iPad
    Adam A7X - Behritone C50A
    PreSonus Monitor Station v2 (controlling the mons)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/sonarusergroup/

    #12
    musicmarkck
    Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 55
    • Joined: 2015/08/13 11:59:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/24 07:44:44 (permalink)
    I suspect that my lack of knowledge and understanding of midi is not helping.
    I have set Edirol as the output, disconnected the Tyros audio from the Edirol, and inserted a soft synth... for this example, Roland Groovesynth. Then I choose a voice - but the results are a looped version of the voice. Thing is, I can only hear this if I choose the soft synth itself as the output (within the ProChannel screen in Sonar). If this is set to Edirol, I hear nothing. The Arpeggiator within the ProChannel is switched off, as is the Input Echo.
    I am totally baffled (and the fact that the Tyros keeps losing the midi settings I have selected is not helping).
    #13
    gustabo
    Max Output Level: -49.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2591
    • Joined: 2009/01/05 17:32:38
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/24 07:50:09 (permalink)
    Insert TTS-1 as a softsynth and turn on Input Echo on that track.


    Cakewalk by Bandlab - Win10 Pro x64 - StudioCat Platinum Studio DAW - 32 GB Ram - MOTU UltraLite-mk3
    M-Audio Keystation 88ES - Akai MPD26 (hot-rodded) - Alesis DM10 - a few guitars, a few amps
    Novation Launch Control - Korg nanoKONTROL2 - PreSonus FaderPort - DAW Remote HD on iPad
    Adam A7X - Behritone C50A
    PreSonus Monitor Station v2 (controlling the mons)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/sonarusergroup/

    #14
    gustabo
    Max Output Level: -49.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2591
    • Joined: 2009/01/05 17:32:38
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/24 07:52:38 (permalink)


    Cakewalk by Bandlab - Win10 Pro x64 - StudioCat Platinum Studio DAW - 32 GB Ram - MOTU UltraLite-mk3
    M-Audio Keystation 88ES - Akai MPD26 (hot-rodded) - Alesis DM10 - a few guitars, a few amps
    Novation Launch Control - Korg nanoKONTROL2 - PreSonus FaderPort - DAW Remote HD on iPad
    Adam A7X - Behritone C50A
    PreSonus Monitor Station v2 (controlling the mons)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/sonarusergroup/

    #15
    musicmarkck
    Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 55
    • Joined: 2015/08/13 11:59:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/24 07:54:55 (permalink)
    Done that, but the notes are still repeating, and the sound is horribly distorted. ???
    #16
    musicmarkck
    Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 55
    • Joined: 2015/08/13 11:59:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/24 09:38:33 (permalink)
    Have tried everything, but without any joy. If anyone has any further ideas, I will gladly accept them. And thanks to those who have helped so far... very much appreciated.
    #17
    Paul P
    Max Output Level: -48.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2685
    • Joined: 2012/12/08 17:15:47
    • Location: Montreal
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/24 12:12:21 (permalink)
    What's your Edirol connected to ?  What do you mean when you say you "could hear nothing" when using the Edirol.  Are monitors hooked up to it, or headphones ?  If so, there's no reason it shouldn't work.
     
     
    post edited by Paul P - 2016/01/24 12:26:32

    Sonar Platinum [2017.10], Win7U x64 sp1, Xeon E5-1620 3.6 GHz, Asus P9X79WS, 16 GB ECC, 128gb SSD, HD7950, Mackie Blackjack
    #18
    musicmarkck
    Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 55
    • Joined: 2015/08/13 11:59:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/24 14:34:26 (permalink)
    The Edirol is indeed hooked up to speakers. Yet when I select is as the output, I hear nothing. Believe me, this is driving me insane! 
    Would I be better off buying a dedicated MIDI lead? And maybe a MIDI controller keyboard? This set-up certainly isn't working.
    #19
    Paul P
    Max Output Level: -48.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2685
    • Joined: 2012/12/08 17:15:47
    • Location: Montreal
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/24 15:37:33 (permalink)
     
    I'm sure everything is fine and you just have to set things up properly within Sonar.
     
    Have you installed the latest ASIO driver for your Edirol ?
     
    In Preferences/Audio/Devices, is "Output Drivers" set to your Edirol ?
    (and Preferences/MIDI/Inputs set to your keyboard, but I believe it is already).
     
    In Preferences/Audio/Playback and Recording, is "Driver Mode" set to ASIO ?
     
    In Preferences/Audio/Driver Settings, "Playback Timing Master" set to your Edirol ?
    What is "Sampling Rate" set to ?
    What is your "Effective latency at [sampling rate]" ?
     
    Screen shots of your different Audio preference pages would be useful for us to catch anything out of the ordinary.
     
    With ASIO, your Windows can't also use your Edirol for sound output.  Set Windows to use internal audio if you have it, or maybe the nvidia if that outputs to something useful.
     
    post edited by Paul P - 2016/01/24 21:00:37

    Sonar Platinum [2017.10], Win7U x64 sp1, Xeon E5-1620 3.6 GHz, Asus P9X79WS, 16 GB ECC, 128gb SSD, HD7950, Mackie Blackjack
    #20
    ricoskyl
    Max Output Level: -84 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 327
    • Joined: 2015/03/15 13:19:05
    • Location: Clarkston, MI USofA
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/24 16:31:13 (permalink)
    Before you spend money on a new controller, make sure you've been through all the details of your set-up.  Have you used the Cakewalk troubleshooter for audio configuration problems?  http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=0x18909.  
     
    Next, remember that MIDI and AUDIO are really different issues.  You use the MIDI to control sound generators and effects.  When you've installed a VST or DXi instrument (like Cakewalk's TTS-1) as a simple instrument track (start with that setting) you should be able to choose Tyrol channel 1 as your input, but if you leave the channel blank or set it to OMNI that will also work.  Does Tyros show up as an input source?  That means that it will send control signals to MIDI.
     
    SONAR routes the MIDI to the plug-in instrument, TTS-1 or whatever you've chosen.  This is why you should see the intrument's meters jump when you play.  If you do, compare the instrument's meters to the track's meters.  They should more or less match.  If so, you're on the right track. (Sorry about the pun.)
     
    Now, take a look at the track's output options.  The choices here should include your Edirol sound card as well as routing choices (e.g. new bus, patch point, etc.).   Choose your Edirol sound card.  If you have used this card with your current speakers without distortion before now, you probably have your hardware connected properly.  If you have too much delay or distortion, it probably has to do with your audio driver settings.
     
    For this part, you'll be editing preferences under the Edit menu.  (Shortcut to this screen is the P key.)   Looking under Audio, let's work from the top down.  On the Devices page, you should see your Edirol card listed under Output drivers and it should be checked to show that you want to use it.  Does it show up?  Click apply before changing screens.
     
    Under Driver Settings, your Edirol card should show up at the top of the window.  Your bit depth can be set to 16 and your sampling rate can be 44100 for now.  Look under mixing latency to see what your buffer size and mixing latency are.  On the system I'm using these happen to be 4 buffers in the playback queue and 90msecs Effective latency at 44.1k/stereo.  The slider should be set toward the left, but there are a few plugins that don't play nicely with extremely low settings.  Mine is just to the right of the word "fast," so very close to the left.  While on this page, if you've made any changes to these values, it's a good idea to click the Wave Profiler button.  Based on your audio card some settings will and some won't be supported; this is normal. Click Apply before going  forward.
     
    Under playback/recording, there will be a variety of audio drivers to choose from.  Generally, the best (as you've heard) is the ASIO, but you have to go with one that your audio card supports.  WDM is the most universally compatible, but generally the lowest performance.  Click Apply.
     
    Finally, look under audio for a screen called "Sync and Caching".  If it doesn't show, it's because you are only listing basic settings.  At the bottom of the preferences window, click Advanced and it will show up.  There probably aren't any problems with this page, but look at the bottom of the screen to see if Record Latency shows anything but the name of the driver you are using (ASIO?  WDM?) On some systems, it will show MME because that's used on Windows.  Verify that this manual offset is 0 as any other value will introduce delay.  Click Apply if you made any changes here.
     
    Finally, before closing the preference dialog, go to playback and recording under MIDI.  I only suggest these changes because of the delay and distortion you've experienced.  Under playback, set Prepare Using to about 30% more than the effective latency number.  My effective latency was 90, so I set this value at 125, but your numbers might be different. Also clear the checkmark before Always Echo Current Midi Track.  It's possible you are double triggering; a problem that sometimes distorts the sound.  Click Apply.
     
    Now, please tell me that it seems to be working.  If not, I'm pretty sure you have a Edirol driver compatibility problem (as was stated before) and working through the driver options at http://roland.com/support/article/?q=downloads&p=UA-4FX (Thanks Zargg71!) I don't know what Win OS you are using, but I'm guessing that the 8/8.1 version released 10/21/13 would be the right one.  Roland has not updated all of its drivers for Win 10.
     
    Let me know how it goes.  I've been through these issues enough that I can really relate when I hear frustration in people's posts.
     
    Rick
     
     

    If you want to make enemies, try to change something. -Woodrow T. Wilson
    Turbulence is a life force. It is opportunity. Let’s love turbulence and use it for change. -Ramsay Clark
    ----------------------
    Sonar Platinum Win 10 x64 on HP Pavilion i7 5500 12Gb RAM, Tascam US-16x08, NVidia 840 8Gb vram, Multi-Screen, Multi-Touch
    #21
    musicmarkck
    Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 55
    • Joined: 2015/08/13 11:59:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/25 12:54:06 (permalink)
    Hello. I have gone through the process step-by-step, and have achieved nothing. About 20 minutes ago, I thought I was succeeding: pressed a key on the Tyros and heard the corresponding MIDI voice in Sonar X1 (output to Edirol). But it was still arpeggiating (?). Looked at some settings... now I cannot get the Tyros to communicate withe Sonar at all. Even though it's all set up and the settings seem to be correct.
    I would like to show you the screenshots, but when I go to attach an image (via this forum) a box appears telling me to choose one of the options below... but there are no options to choose from. So I cannot let you see what is happening. 
    One thing: as I go through the Sonar settings, I cannot see the Wave Profiler. And under Audio / Driver Settings, the Mixing Latency adjustments are in grey, and I cannot change them (buffers in playback queue 2, buffer size fast).
    I have been working on this since Friday! Time to admit defeat, methinks.
    Thanks to all.
    #22
    musicmarkck
    Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 55
    • Joined: 2015/08/13 11:59:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/25 12:57:56 (permalink)
    One other thing: the project is in the Normal template, and I have just spotted that my Tyros is sending signals to track 2, named MIDI. But not to the soft synths. Does this make sense to anyone???
     
    #23
    Zargg
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 10666
    • Joined: 2014/09/28 04:20:14
    • Location: Norway
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/25 13:43:14 (permalink)
    This makes sense to me, as the Tyros is just sending MIDI. You will need a softsynth routed to the MIDI track the Tyros is communicating with.
    All the best.

    Ken Nilsen
    Zargg
    BBZ
    Win 10 Pro X64, Cakewalk by Bandlab, SPlat X64, AMD AM3+ fx-8320, 16Gb RAM, RME Ucx (+ ARC), Tascam FW 1884, M-Audio Keystation 61es, *AKAI MPK Pro 25, *Softube Console1, Alesis DM6 USB, Maschine MkII
    Laptop setup: Win 10 X64, i5 2.4ghz, 8gb RAM, 320gb 7200 RPM HD, Focusrite Solo, + *
     
    #24
    musicmarkck
    Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 55
    • Joined: 2015/08/13 11:59:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/25 15:26:34 (permalink)
    "You will need a softsynth routed to the MIDI track the Tyros is communicating with."
     
    How do I do that?
    #25
    Zargg
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 10666
    • Joined: 2014/09/28 04:20:14
    • Location: Norway
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/25 15:57:29 (permalink)
    Assuming that you you have inserted a SoftSynth (Vsti) on track 1 (right click, and choose insert SoftSynth), you choose the output on the MIDI track to correspond to your SS.

    Hope it helps.'All the best.

    Ken Nilsen
    Zargg
    BBZ
    Win 10 Pro X64, Cakewalk by Bandlab, SPlat X64, AMD AM3+ fx-8320, 16Gb RAM, RME Ucx (+ ARC), Tascam FW 1884, M-Audio Keystation 61es, *AKAI MPK Pro 25, *Softube Console1, Alesis DM6 USB, Maschine MkII
    Laptop setup: Win 10 X64, i5 2.4ghz, 8gb RAM, 320gb 7200 RPM HD, Focusrite Solo, + *
     
    #26
    musicmarkck
    Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 55
    • Joined: 2015/08/13 11:59:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/25 16:15:42 (permalink)
    May I ask: do you load the Normal template? I am confused: does Track 1 have to be a midi track itself? Also, I cannot emulate Right click, and choose insert SoftSynth. Where exactly do you right-click?
    Sorry if I come across as clueless - but when it comes to midi, I am.
    #27
    Zargg
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 10666
    • Joined: 2014/09/28 04:20:14
    • Location: Norway
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/25 17:03:46 (permalink)
    Sorry if this is badly explained. Open SONAR. Click Ctrl + N (you do not need to add a name) Insert an Audio track, and a MIDI track. In the fx bin of the Audio track, right click and choose insert (any available) SoftSynth. 
    Then go to the MIDI track, and select your added SoftSynth as shown in post 26.
    Best of luck.

    Ken Nilsen
    Zargg
    BBZ
    Win 10 Pro X64, Cakewalk by Bandlab, SPlat X64, AMD AM3+ fx-8320, 16Gb RAM, RME Ucx (+ ARC), Tascam FW 1884, M-Audio Keystation 61es, *AKAI MPK Pro 25, *Softube Console1, Alesis DM6 USB, Maschine MkII
    Laptop setup: Win 10 X64, i5 2.4ghz, 8gb RAM, 320gb 7200 RPM HD, Focusrite Solo, + *
     
    #28
    musicmarkck
    Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 55
    • Joined: 2015/08/13 11:59:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/26 11:53:35 (permalink)
    I have done that, but there is no FX bin to click in. Wish I could post a screenshot to show you. Also, can this ultimately be achieved within an existing project... e.g. I am near completion of a demo and want to add something using MIDI.
    Mark
     
     
     
    #29
    Zargg
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 10666
    • Joined: 2014/09/28 04:20:14
    • Location: Norway
    • Status: offline
    Re: HELP! ISSUE WITH MIDI 2016/01/26 12:05:17 (permalink)
    If you hover your mouse over the left edge of a track, does it shift to a "double sided arrow"? If so left click, and drag to the right until fx bin is showing.
    Also make sure all is checked 
    All the best.

    Ken Nilsen
    Zargg
    BBZ
    Win 10 Pro X64, Cakewalk by Bandlab, SPlat X64, AMD AM3+ fx-8320, 16Gb RAM, RME Ucx (+ ARC), Tascam FW 1884, M-Audio Keystation 61es, *AKAI MPK Pro 25, *Softube Console1, Alesis DM6 USB, Maschine MkII
    Laptop setup: Win 10 X64, i5 2.4ghz, 8gb RAM, 320gb 7200 RPM HD, Focusrite Solo, + *
     
    #30
    Page: 12 > Showing page 1 of 2
    Jump to:
    © 2025 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1