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Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
Sad. So Sad.
Directly from the email.
Neil Pear & Billy Coham Drums / American Acoustic Guitar
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/04/30 15:39:51
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Bapuuuuu...
Is it a slip of the tongue is no fault of the mind and those who mock it are very unkind......or is it a slip of the hand is a dead ringer for a careless finger??
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/04/30 16:42:31
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Do you need to plug in iFig to use it?
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 10:36:29
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I wanted to hear these libraries but was frustrated in my attempts to do so via the Custom Shop. After clicking on the image for the Cobham kit, I was entertained by a progress bar for fifteen minutes before I finally gave up and closed it. For $80 it would have had to be pretty special, but I'll never know.
I still think the Custom Shop is a brilliant way to sell stuff. But until there's been some serious optimization applied, I probably won't bother checking it again.
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 10:39:55
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Do you need to plug in iFig to use it?
iFig-ure so... 
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 11:38:57
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bitflipper
I wanted to hear these libraries but was frustrated in my attempts to do so via the Custom Shop. After clicking on the image for the Cobham kit, I was entertained by a progress bar for fifteen minutes before I finally gave up and closed it. For $80 it would have had to be pretty special, but I'll never know.
I still think the Custom Shop is a brilliant way to sell stuff. But until there's been some serious optimization applied, I probably won't bother checking it again.
I saw an alert about an issue this morning, which has since been fixed. All should work well now.
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 12:12:46
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bitflipper
I wanted to hear these libraries but was frustrated in my attempts to do so via the Custom Shop. After clicking on the image for the Cobham kit, I was entertained by a progress bar for fifteen minutes before I finally gave up and closed it. For $80 it would have had to be pretty special, but I'll never know.
I still think the Custom Shop is a brilliant way to sell stuff. But until there's been some serious optimization applied, I probably won't bother checking it again.
Well Neil Peart kit for BFD $34.32 for the Konntakt version and $60.72 for BFD from Sonic Reality and the Billy Cobham kit is $29 for Kontakt and $69 for BFD Presumably these are the same set of samples.
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 12:14:46
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bitflipper
I wanted to hear these libraries but was frustrated in my attempts to do so via the Custom Shop. After clicking on the image for the Cobham kit, I was entertained by a progress bar for fifteen minutes before I finally gave up and closed it. For $80 it would have had to be pretty special, but I'll never know.
I still think the Custom Shop is a brilliant way to sell stuff. But until there's been some serious optimization applied, I probably won't bother checking it again.
Well Neil Peart kit for BFD $34.32 for the Konntakt version and $60.72 for BFD from Sonic Reality and the Billy Cobham kit is $29 for Kontakt and $69 for BFD
Presumably these are the same set of samples.
They've been "IK-ized" to work in the fabulous ST 3.51 Sample Player with effects...that automatically makes them worth more...
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 13:46:56
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My post on KVR speaks directly to this price comparison and why it is disparate (numbered list post).
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 14:13:37
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My post on KVR speaks directly to this price comparison and why it is disparate (numbered list post).
How about speaking directly to us Sonar users and address the topic here (you know, since the question is in this forum) while not directing everyone away to another site?
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 14:51:22
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First, ST 3 at $349 is laughable IMO....when for $50 more (RETAIL) you can get a REAL Sampler (Kontakt - not ROMPLER - ST), and THAT get's you an upgrade path to Komplete and K-U. Then you have the samples that were "10 years in the making" ...also laughable... hardly anything worthy of "praise" that's for sure, compared to others that are even less pricey...the samples are ok...but not "WOW"...sorry... IMO, ST 3 is at the most a $149 product...and Sample packs should be priced at like $49 max... THIS IS JUST MY OPINION....so don't throw things...I know many of you love it.... I had it...I got rid of it...it really didn't do "anything" to warrant that kind of price. The absolute BEST THING about it was that it allowed me to use all my existing ST samples in a 64 bit host. Fortunately for me, I got what I paid for it back when I sold it... All things considered...after 10 years of waiting and listening to all the BS along the way... to me..it's a joke...and not a funny one... 
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 15:36:25
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My post on KVR speaks directly to this price comparison and why it is disparate (numbered list post).
How about speaking directly to us Sonar users and address the topic here (you know, since the question is in this forum) while not directing everyone away to another site?
Well it would seem that the IK versions contain loops. 800 Audio loops in the case Neil Peart Kit which are not in the BFD or Kontakt versions. While this would not make it more appealing to me some people will like it. It has always been a bit of a disapointment to me that Sonic Reality did Audio Grooves rather than much more versatile MIDI grooves. Edit - 400 Audio Grooves in the Billy Cobham library
post edited by Glyn Barnes - 2015/05/01 15:59:59
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 18:14:14
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The Sonic Reality versions are not cheaper. The SampleTank 3 version contains the kit samples + loops, all in one product. To get the same Neil Peart content from SR, you would have to buy 3 products: the kit samples + 2 loop titles for a total of $167. To get the same Billy Cobham content, you would have to buy the full EpiK DrumS product (available for Kontakt only) which is $299. I hope that clarifies the answer to that question more.
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 18:26:36
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Mesh
IK_Multimedia
My post on KVR speaks directly to this price comparison and why it is disparate (numbered list post).
How about speaking directly to us Sonar users and address the topic here (you know, since the question is in this forum) while not directing everyone away to another site?
My reply above should suffice now, I hope. I was mobile at the time so I figured at least some information would be useful. In the future I will wait until I can be as verbose as necessary.
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 19:16:18
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I tried it again, and indeed something appears to have been fixed: it took less than a minute to initialize the CS, pull up the Neil Peart page and play a sample. It sounds great.
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 20:02:59
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I wish Toontrack or xln Audio would make a Neil Peart kit. I have the Session Drummer 3 version, but I don't care much for SSD3. I will see Rush next Friday night for the opening night of the R40 tour...hopefully they won't completely retire, but it sounds like the big tours are over.
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 21:39:14
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I wish Toontrack or xln Audio would make a Neil Peart kit. I have the Session Drummer 3 version, but I don't care much for SSD3. I will see Rush next Friday night for the opening night of the R40 tour...hopefully they won't completely retire, but it sounds like the big tours are over.
You lucky Bastard....
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 21:41:27
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I hear ya talkin'...but all I hear is blah blah blah...
I have the Kontakt kit...and I guarantee you the IK one doesn't come close...
But, as with everything, that's subjective....LOL
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 21:50:02
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/05/01 21:54:37
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I wish Toontrack or xln Audio would make a Neil Peart kit. I have the Session Drummer 3 version, but I don't care much for SSD3. I will see Rush next Friday night for the opening night of the R40 tour...hopefully they won't completely retire, but it sounds like the big tours are over.
You lucky Bastard....
Am I equally lucky to have seen them on the 2112 tour? 1976, I think. One could have created a large NP sample library just from his lengthy drum solo. If samplers had been around back then. Cheers, Eddie
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 23:17:04
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This will be my second and most likely last time to see them. I saw them in 2007 on the Snakes and Arrows tour. I'm a fan of all of their music...I even like most of the 80's stuff. They will be missed if this is it. I do admire the fact that they want to quit while they can still bring it, but Rush at 80% would still be very good. Hopefully they go home and fire up Sonar Platinum and knock out a few records!
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/01 23:59:54
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You lucky, lucky bastard !
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/02 00:17:47
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I wish Toontrack or xln Audio would make a Neil Peart kit. I have the Session Drummer 3 version, but I don't care much for SSD3.
If you would rather use Kontakt, you could import the sfz files into Kontakt.
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/02 00:36:41
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I'm a fan of all of their music...I even like most of the 80's stuff.
Moving Pictures was one of my favorites from them, released in '81, I think.
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/02 00:42:50
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Come to think of it, 1981 was just a great year for music. Ozzy - Diary Of A Madman Rush - Moving Pictures Van Halen - Fair Warning Judas Priest - Point Of Entry Black Sabbath - Mob Rules Genesis - Abacab Earth, Wind,& Fire - Raise I'm sure I'm missing many more... Sorry for the hijack.
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/02 01:00:11
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I wish Toontrack or xln Audio would make a Neil Peart kit. I have the Session Drummer 3 version, but I don't care much for SSD3.
If you would rather use Kontakt, you could import the sfz files into Kontakt.
According to Dave Kerzner the SD3, BFD, ST3 and Kontakt versions are all slightly different. In particular, the Cakewalk version is greatly simplified. The Kontakt version has the most features, meaning multiple microphone positions that can be mixed to taste, something the SD3 version can't do. I suspect the ST3 version may be similarly dumbed-down. Too bad, too, because the SD3 version is quite a bit cheaper than the Kontakt version.
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/03 19:04:17
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I wish Toontrack or xln Audio would make a Neil Peart kit. I have the Session Drummer 3 version, but I don't care much for SSD3.
If you would rather use Kontakt, you could import the sfz files into Kontakt.
According to Dave Kerzner the SD3, BFD, ST3 and Kontakt versions are all slightly different. In particular, the Cakewalk version is greatly simplified. The Kontakt version has the most features, meaning multiple microphone positions that can be mixed to taste, something the SD3 version can't do. I suspect the ST3 version may be similarly dumbed-down.
Too bad, too, because the SD3 version is quite a bit cheaper than the Kontakt version.
I'm sure the majority of that is velocity layers and kit pieces (and maybe even bit depth) I know the SD kit has less pieces and obviously less velocity layers...but still all probably from the same set of samples... The one I have for Kontakt is Tre Manifique!
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/03 19:05:21
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The question is "What will be the next fruit to get a kit?
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2015/05/04 11:18:25
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Re: Ha Ha - Neil Pear drums from IK
2015/05/04 11:19:27
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The way IK's been going (lately....  ), it certainly is looks like a fruit of the loom stain from one too many Electric Prunes.
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