sharke
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Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
So I'm getting into a war of words of sorts with some infernal loud mouthed douchenozzle on Reddit who is claiming that the Haas effect in production has nothing to do with panning and that the delay is all you need to create the effect, even if both signals are panned dead center. He also claims that the delay time should be calculated as a fraction of the sample rate of the project. Now this just all seems so laughable to me, and he keeps posting quotes from articles which clearly state that the delayed signal must come from a different location to the original for the effect to work. So clearly he's off his noggin to some degree, and I'm also baffled by this whole sample rate thing. Of what relevance is the sample rate of the audio to the required delay time? As well as reeling off these bizarre theories, he's also insisting that he's a seasoned audio pro, an expert of sorts, and gets paid for it.
Am I just misunderstanding what he's trying to say - is there ANY point engaging him any further?
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bapu
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/03 16:47:33
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So, you found my other alias on the interwebz?
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sharke
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/03 16:52:01
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Big time! Any tips on how to deal with you?
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/03 17:11:07
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Spatial perception is very complicated.
Just sayin....
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bapu
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/03 17:15:37
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sharke
Big time! Any tips on how to deal with you?
First mistake. See above quote. 
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SteveStrummerUK
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/03 17:18:15
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You must engage him. Either: - Tell him to try it both his way and the proper way
or - Explain to him that in your humble opinion, he is a massive twat
Simples (or should that be "samples"... yuk yuk)
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/03 17:20:18
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You must engage him.
Either:- Tell him to try it both his way and the proper way
or - Explain to him that in your humble opinion, he is a massive twat
Simples
(or should that be "samples"... yuk yuk)
I've done both and they bounced right off him. Didn't even leave a mark.
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/03 17:31:43
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/05/03 18:17:56
Sorry to hear about your douchenozzle problem. Online dating is at least as complicated as the old fashioned bar pickup method, except that you can be less certain that your target has been drinking online. From your description it is difficult to say whether DN is inebriated or just plain stupid, but it probably matters less than you might think. Disagreements are just as likely in online relationships as in bars, but at least if he vomits while you are arguing, you will not feel obligated to hold his head over a toilet. In any case, it is hard to see why you want to save this relationship. You obviously do not respect the douche, and a relationship between two people who disagree on such an important life goal as how to implement the Haas effect is unlikely to improve unless one of you is willing to compromise. I would just tell him that you do not think things will work out, and move on to another potential mate. Bringing him here to humiliate him in front of your friends just makes you look petty.
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/03 17:36:44
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/03 18:00:15
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/03 18:29:29
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/05/03 18:50:33
Edwidge you made me chortule.
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/03 18:35:03
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/03 20:30:17
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/03 21:29:55
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I prefer the Doppler effect anyway.
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 08:25:50
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bapu
Got to update this one .... to ... something like ... I think that's someone's trump'et coming this way!
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 15:06:53
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2016/05/04 16:19:15
So, let me see if I've got this. You attempted to conduct a logical, informed and intelligent discussion with a fool and he responded in an illogical manner?
There's a difference between ignorance and intentional stupidity. One is due to a lack of knowledge and experience and the other is due to self-centered arrogance. Willful stupidity thrives on attention, even the negative variety. You can't fix stupid, but you can starve it. Ignore it long enough, and it will wander into the street where it will encounter natural consequences.
I'm sure your concern is not for educating this person, but is instead for setting the record straight for those he might confuse. I think all you can do is state the facts, drop the mic, and walk off stage.
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 15:55:09
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UbiquitousBubba
There's a difference between ignorance and intentional stupidity. One is due to a lack of knowledge and experience and the other is due to self-centered arrogance. Willful stupidity thrives on attention, even the negative variety. You can't fix stupid, but you can starve it. Ignore it long enough, and it will wander into the street where it will encounter natural consequences.
Excellent. Two words - Sweaty Ken. (I'm not writing his real name, but the anagram is perfect)
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 16:19:02
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UbiquitousBubba
There's a difference between ignorance and intentional stupidity. One is due to a lack of knowledge and experience and the other is due to self-centered arrogance. Willful stupidity thrives on attention, even the negative variety. You can't fix stupid, but you can starve it. Ignore it long enough, and it will wander into the street where it will encounter natural consequences.
Excellent. Two words - Sweaty Ken. (I'm not writing his real name, but the anagram is perfect)
Skat Weeny? 
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 16:20:50
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sounds like a potential troll to me...
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craigb
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 16:23:37
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We used to have two responses to trolls. One was to actually agree with them and say "It's exactly the same theory as [insert even more ridiculously stupid theory here]!" The other response was pretty funny. All of us in one musician forum have "Bert" names (yes, I'm Craigbert there). When someone would complain that a troll was stomping all over another forum we would "Send in the Berts!" and all join just to mock, harass and, eventually, cause the troll to shut up or leave. Hehe... I must admit it was fun! 
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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bapu
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 16:24:57
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jamesg1213
UbiquitousBubba
There's a difference between ignorance and intentional stupidity. One is due to a lack of knowledge and experience and the other is due to self-centered arrogance. Willful stupidity thrives on attention, even the negative variety. You can't fix stupid, but you can starve it. Ignore it long enough, and it will wander into the street where it will encounter natural consequences.
Excellent. Two words - Sweaty Ken. (I'm not writing his real name, but the anagram is perfect)
Skat Weeny?
Kanye West
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craigb
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 16:30:28
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craigb
jamesg1213
UbiquitousBubba
There's a difference between ignorance and intentional stupidity. One is due to a lack of knowledge and experience and the other is due to self-centered arrogance. Willful stupidity thrives on attention, even the negative variety. You can't fix stupid, but you can starve it. Ignore it long enough, and it will wander into the street where it will encounter natural consequences.
Excellent. Two words - Sweaty Ken. (I'm not writing his real name, but the anagram is perfect)
Skat Weeny?
Kanye West
Ya think?
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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bapu
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 16:33:30
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bapu
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 16:34:51
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craigb
bapu
craigb
jamesg1213
UbiquitousBubba
There's a difference between ignorance and intentional stupidity. One is due to a lack of knowledge and experience and the other is due to self-centered arrogance. Willful stupidity thrives on attention, even the negative variety. You can't fix stupid, but you can starve it. Ignore it long enough, and it will wander into the street where it will encounter natural consequences.
Excellent. Two words - Sweaty Ken. (I'm not writing his real name, but the anagram is perfect)
Skat Weeny?
Kanye West
Ya think?
Probably the greatest Skat Weeny ever. Just ask him.
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jamesg1213
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 16:44:38
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/05/04 17:03:24
If people stop saying his name, he won't exist..as per Bubba's post.
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bapu
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 16:47:44
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Bapu Bapu Bapu Bapu Bapu Bapu Bapu Bapu Bapu Bapu Bapu Bapu Bapu Bapu
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 16:59:01
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2016/05/04 17:27:59
craigb
I prefer the Doppler effect anyway.
In this fred, that would be the reddit shift, ya? My wit surprises myself on occasion.
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bapu
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 17:30:32
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Hey Steve,
What do you keep wit what these days?
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 18:05:41
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/05/04 18:23:01
bapu
Hey Steve,
What do you keep wit what these days?
I keep me wits about me........ and my er..... enemies closerer.
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craigb
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Re: Haas effect and loudmouth dolts on Reddit
2016/05/04 18:27:36
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☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2016/05/04 20:06:39
Having a jar with Pistol Pete while chatting up some birds?
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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