John T
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Hard drive speeds over USB
My 30gb hard drive in my laptop is starting to feel a little cramped, and I'm thinking of going out and getting a large external drive tomorrow.
Anyway, I'm wondering if USB 2.0 is a suitable interface for this. Will I get significantly lower transfer rates than with an internal drive?
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Junski
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RE: Hard drive speeds over USB
2006/07/30 15:22:33
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John T
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RE: Hard drive speeds over USB
2006/07/30 15:45:15
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Thanks, that's very helpful!
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RE: Hard drive speeds over USB
2006/07/30 22:41:44
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ORIGINAL: John T
My 30gb hard drive in my laptop is starting to feel a little cramped, and I'm thinking of going out and getting a large external drive tomorrow.
Anyway, I'm wondering if USB 2.0 is a suitable interface for this. Will I get significantly lower transfer rates than with an internal drive?
It will be worse then an good 7200 rpm internal drive and use up CPU also. That's the problem with USB, firewire is better because it doesn't load down the CPU. However, most laptops have slow internal drives (4200 or 5400 at most) and 7200 rpm 2.5" drives are inexpensive and available now all the way up to 100 gig. I replaced the drive in mine and EVERYTHING got faster, in fact boot up time is about half !. If your laptop can take two drives get two of them, I have an old IBM Thinkpad A31 and with two 7200 rpm drives it's amazing.
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RE: Hard drive speeds over USB
2006/07/31 05:13:41
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ORIGINAL: ohhey
ORIGINAL: John T
My 30gb hard drive in my laptop is starting to feel a little cramped, and I'm thinking of going out and getting a large external drive tomorrow.
Anyway, I'm wondering if USB 2.0 is a suitable interface for this. Will I get significantly lower transfer rates than with an internal drive?
It will be worse then an good 7200 rpm internal drive and use up CPU also. That's the problem with USB, firewire is better because it doesn't load down the CPU. However, most laptops have slow internal drives (4200 or 5400 at most) and 7200 rpm 2.5" drives are inexpensive and available now all the way up to 100 gig. I replaced the drive in mine and EVERYTHING got faster, in fact boot up time is about half !. If your laptop can take two drives get two of them, I have an old IBM Thinkpad A31 and with two 7200 rpm drives it's amazing.
please find a 60GB 5400 for my Sony TR2--I looked and only found 4200 so far.
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John T
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RE: Hard drive speeds over USB
2006/07/31 10:02:35
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Well, I went for a seagate 300Gb USB drive, which was on offer at Maplin for 100 quid. I've set it up and seems to be working well with everything I've tested it with so far, al of my extant Sonar projects run fine from it. It's a bit noisy, but I'm going to stick it in some sort of box on the other side of the room to couteract that.
I expect the extra performance overhead is being cancelled out by the fact that this drive has a faster RPM than the internal one I was using, so I'm pretty happy.
Non-Sonar question, but somebody might know: I'm trying to shift a load of data to the big new drive, and one I'd really like to move is the half gig factory soundbank that comes with reason. I installed this on the hard-drive so I wouldn't need to keep putting the CD in, but it seems there's no way to tell Reason you want to move it to a new location. Anyone know a workaround.
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RE: Hard drive speeds over USB
2006/07/31 10:33:48
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Have you checked, if there is
- a registry key w/ path values on registry, Reason uses to locate banks?
- .ini/.cfg file in Reason installation directory that has the definition for paths?
Junski
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RE: Hard drive speeds over USB
2006/07/31 10:35:24
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ORIGINAL: John T
Well, I went for a seagate 300Gb USB drive, which was on offer at Maplin for 100 quid. I've set it up and seems to be working well with everything I've tested it with so far, al of my extant Sonar projects run fine from it. It's a bit noisy, but I'm going to stick it in some sort of box on the other side of the room to couteract that.
I expect the extra performance overhead is being cancelled out by the fact that this drive has a faster RPM than the internal one I was using, so I'm pretty happy.
Non-Sonar question, but somebody might know: I'm trying to shift a load of data to the big new drive, and one I'd really like to move is the half gig factory soundbank that comes with reason. I installed this on the hard-drive so I wouldn't need to keep putting the CD in, but it seems there's no way to tell Reason you want to move it to a new location. Anyone know a workaround.
I don't use reason, but I have 2 external drives and I keep my sampler libraries on one of my externals. I wouldn't know how to change the reason one, but if it's not too much of a hassle, you could consider re-installing and you would think at the installation time it would give you the choice. But hey, I could be wrong. Most libraries I install (and some are huge--like 10gb) it gives you the option--I mean, who would want that on their C drive.
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RE: Hard drive speeds over USB
2006/07/31 10:45:32
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ORIGINAL: michael japan
ORIGINAL: ohhey
ORIGINAL: John T
My 30gb hard drive in my laptop is starting to feel a little cramped, and I'm thinking of going out and getting a large external drive tomorrow.
Anyway, I'm wondering if USB 2.0 is a suitable interface for this. Will I get significantly lower transfer rates than with an internal drive?
It will be worse then an good 7200 rpm internal drive and use up CPU also. That's the problem with USB, firewire is better because it doesn't load down the CPU. However, most laptops have slow internal drives (4200 or 5400 at most) and 7200 rpm 2.5" drives are inexpensive and available now all the way up to 100 gig. I replaced the drive in mine and EVERYTHING got faster, in fact boot up time is about half !. If your laptop can take two drives get two of them, I have an old IBM Thinkpad A31 and with two 7200 rpm drives it's amazing.
please find a 60GB 5400 for my Sony TR2--I looked and only found 4200 so far.
Sorry.. the Sony TR2 takes a 1.8" (iPod size) drive, they don't make any fast ones. Most laptops use a standard 2.5" drive.
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John T
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RE: Hard drive speeds over USB
2006/07/31 11:48:39
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ORIGINAL: Junski
Have you checked, if there is
- a registry key w/ path values on registry, Reason uses to locate banks?
- .ini/.cfg file in Reason installation directory that has the definition for paths?
Junski
Yeah. There's no ini file as such, it's all buried in the exe, and all the registry keys are indexes into to exe file itself. This is why propellorheads' stuff is so fast; they do absolutely crazy black magic down to the metal programming.
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John T
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RE: Hard drive speeds over USB
2006/07/31 11:50:42
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I mean, who would want that on their C drive.
Ha, indeed.
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