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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/04 17:42:19 (permalink)
Thanks southpaw3473 but how do I get Mixbus to see my 32 bit plug-ins? When I do a VST scan it only shows the plugs included with Mixbus...

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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/04 19:55:50 (permalink)
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Launched it for a while...managed to insert a track ;-) Not much more...
Does it support VSTi's???


Yes. You have to set paths in preferences, and install them with the plugin manager.

VSTi's as in VST instruments?  No, it does not.  It does support 32-bit VST effects, but not instruments.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/04 19:55:50 (permalink)
Geo, you need to set the path to your 32-bit plugins in preferences.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/04 20:03:58 (permalink)
Thanks Dream Logic...

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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/04 20:39:36 (permalink)
I'll pass.
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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/04 22:26:27 (permalink)
Not trying to be a killjoy but I sometimes wonder if the Mixbuss buzz is partially placebo effect.  I know the last weave of praise prompted me to ask someone for a sample of a mix that had actually been improved  but most of the responses I got were similar to what one gets when a believer in a psychic is asked for proof. A lot of "you just have to hear for yourself".  Not saying it's not true, but I just someone could show an example.
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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/05 10:07:18 (permalink)
I've sat here for the past 3 days doing all kinds of A B tests with Mixbux and for me no there is no placebo effect .
 
over at the Gearsluts forum they have a Mixbus thread that is something like 80 +, pages long which I started to read through ….
somewheres around page 9 someone posted mix comparisons on a few short clips …
anyway by the time I heard those clips my mind was already made up because I had already had spent a lot of time
doing my own tests ….
 
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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/05 10:30:43 (permalink)
Yeah, it's real, whatever it is. Call it mojo (or HoJo if you like 28 flavors!). The thing for me is its ease of use. the EQs are very, very good, the comps on each track have a great sound and feel and it's very flexible routing-wise. It's very quick to get a good sound. I like quick and easy. 
 
I'm not really interested in Mixbus as a DAW much. Sonar is all I need for anything I can throw at it. Mixbus is just another color. A very pretty one, though

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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/05 10:33:02 (permalink)
Man, there were a lot of "very"s in that last post. Adjective challenged before coffee I guess.
 

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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/05 11:31:40 (permalink)
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You can route the Sonar stems into Mixbus like a tape recorder.
 



Though I'd love that to be the case, I'm not so sure if that will work.  From the quote you posted: "On Windows, a simplified version of JACK is installed for use by Mixbus, which other applications do not see."
 
I hope I'm mistaken.
 
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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/05 12:43:54 (permalink)
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I tried the link above using internet explorer and it threw and error and then the "add to cart" button did not show up on the product page. Once I tried it in firefox then it worked fine and the orange add to cart button showed up properly.


Not sure what your problem is, but IE works just fine for me with Win 8.1
 
Thanks Mike for the heads up.  And to the other posters for the various routing options.
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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/05 12:46:16 (permalink)
Ahh!  Thanks bapu!
 
I wonder if anyone has had any luck getting it to work the other way (Sonar into Mixbus.)
 
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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/05 21:24:21 (permalink)
How many MixBuss threads are there?
So far I have successfully avoided purchasing it.
I'm not sure I can hold out much longer!
 
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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/06 00:38:43 (permalink)
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How many MixBuss threads are there?
So far I have successfully avoided purchasing it.
I'm not sure I can hold out much longer!
 
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Hi Tom, For $19.95 it's worth getting. So far I like Mixbus although some of the editing features are very cumbersome to me. No midi and not being 64 bit are the downsides although not a deal breaker. They will probably add midi and go 64 bit at some point? As a DAW MB needs more development but as a mixer it's pretty cool. Admittedly I'm not hearing much of a difference at all between Sonar and MB. There's a reason I've been hooked on Sonar for so long.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/06 07:10:22 (permalink)
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Ahh!  Thanks bapu!
 
I wonder if anyone has had any luck getting it to work the other way (Sonar into Mixbus.)
 
Kenn


Yep. It works both ways. I inserted stereo tracks in Mixbus and set their inputs. Set my drum bus OUTS in Sonar to an OUT and patched that to the in selected in Mixbus. It worked perfectly. This is very handy. I can even patch out of Sonar into Mixbus and back into Sonar. 

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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/08 01:20:23 (permalink)
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Yep. It works both ways. I inserted stereo tracks in Mixbus and set their inputs. Set my drum bus OUTS in Sonar to an OUT and patched that to the in selected in Mixbus. It worked perfectly. This is very handy. I can even patch out of Sonar into Mixbus and back into Sonar. 



Thanks for the reply Southpaw.  Are you talking about software patching with Jack, or hardware patching with multiple interfaces?  I'm interested in routing everything through software, but I don't seem to see the ports I need to assign using Jack and Mixbus.  I'm usually not so easily confused! :)
 
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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/08 09:09:08 (permalink)
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Yep. It works both ways. I inserted stereo tracks in Mixbus and set their inputs. Set my drum bus OUTS in Sonar to an OUT and patched that to the in selected in Mixbus. It worked perfectly. This is very handy. I can even patch out of Sonar into Mixbus and back into Sonar. 



Thanks for the reply Southpaw.  Are you talking about software patching with Jack, or hardware patching with multiple interfaces?  I'm interested in routing everything through software, but I don't seem to see the ports I need to assign using Jack and Mixbus.  I'm usually not so easily confused! :)
 
Kenn


You can do both. I use a patchbay (a physical one) to route ins and outs. Jack lets you assign any track/bus/master to any I/O.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/08 11:58:17 (permalink)
Thanks southpaw.
 
I've had no luck trying to route audio from Sonar into Mixbus "in-the-box".  I ended up downloading a separate Jack-only install (Jack_v1.9.9_64_setup.exe) which gave me the "Jack PortAudio" and "Jack Control" applications which didn't come with the Mixbus download.  (Unless I missed something?  Did you have to download and install Jack Control separately too?)  However I still cannot get Sonar to recognize any Jack/Mixbus ports and vice-versa.
 
Hmm, I'm just now wondering if I need to use the 32-bit version of Jack since Mixbus is 32-bit.  I thought I'd need the 64-bit version of Jack Control since I'm using 64-bit SONAR X3, but maybe that's not the case.  I'll have to try out the 32-bit version of Jack when I get back to my DAW.
 
In the meantime, any suggestions, hints, or step-by-step instructions would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/08 13:46:41 (permalink)
Steve posted another link in the Coffee House forum. There is another deal until or through the 10th to get a couple of plugins for 10 bucks. It is not the link in the OP, scroll down in the thread and you'll find it. I think there is promo code.
 
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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/08 15:36:21 (permalink)
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Thanks southpaw.
 
I've had no luck trying to route audio from Sonar into Mixbus "in-the-box".  I ended up downloading a separate Jack-only install (Jack_v1.9.9_64_setup.exe) which gave me the "Jack PortAudio" and "Jack Control" applications which didn't come with the Mixbus download.  (Unless I missed something?  Did you have to download and install Jack Control separately too?)  However I still cannot get Sonar to recognize any Jack/Mixbus ports and vice-versa.
 
Hmm, I'm just now wondering if I need to use the 32-bit version of Jack since Mixbus is 32-bit.  I thought I'd need the 64-bit version of Jack Control since I'm using 64-bit SONAR X3, but maybe that's not the case.  I'll have to try out the 32-bit version of Jack when I get back to my DAW.
 
In the meantime, any suggestions, hints, or step-by-step instructions would be greatly appreciated.
 
Kenn


Kenn,
What are you using for an interface? I have a MOTU Track 16 with a Focusrite Octo Dynamic connected via ADAT. I simply select the output for track in Sonar I want to send to Mixbus. In MB I select the input and yer off. I do physically patch the I/O via a patchbay. I don't think Jack is full featured for Windows. I might be wrong about that but I think it's a Mac thingy. 

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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/08 16:52:46 (permalink)
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Kenn,
What are you using for an interface? I have a MOTU Track 16 with a Focusrite Octo Dynamic connected via ADAT. I simply select the output for track in Sonar I want to send to Mixbus. In MB I select the input and yer off. I do physically patch the I/O via a patchbay. I don't think Jack is full featured for Windows. I might be wrong about that but I think it's a Mac thingy. 

I'm using the Cakewalk V-Studio 100 as my one and only interface.  It's my understanding that with version 2.5 of Mixbus they added Windows Jack support..but maybe I was given incorrect information.
 
If I can't get it routed via software, I guess I'll just have to do exports and imports.  If anyone else has managed to patch SONAR to Mixbus with either Jack or V.A.S. (http://www.virtualaudiostream.com/) I'd love to hear about your experience/setup.
 
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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/09 18:50:24 (permalink)
Harrison Mixbus is Ardour + inline Plugs. Ardour is free and something I have used for more than a 2 years?
 
I know that everyone here is in it for the plugins, but I thought I should point out that this is mostly Ardour. With Ardour on Windows you could use all your Sonar Plugins.
 
So this means that if you want to see how a different daw impacts your workflow and creativity, you don't have to pay the $20 USD. The $20 is for the EQs and Compressor. And, btw, there are EQs and Compressors free with Ardour. A number of interesting ones.
 

 
 
post edited by gswitz - 2014/05/09 18:56:54

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/10 06:50:16 (permalink)
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Harrison Mixbus is Ardour + inline Plugs. Ardour is free and something I have used for more than a 2 years?
 
I know that everyone here is in it for the plugins, but I thought I should point out that this is mostly Ardour. With Ardour on Windows you could use all your Sonar Plugins.
 
So this means that if you want to see how a different daw impacts your workflow and creativity, you don't have to pay the $20 USD. The $20 is for the EQs and Compressor. And, btw, there are EQs and Compressors free with Ardour. A number of interesting ones.
 

 
 




Mixbus is BUILT on top of Ardour, because Ardour is open source...but it's NOT Ardour, and you're not paying for the Plugins...it has a different working, howbeit somewhat similar.

Mixbus has a far different sound.  It has the "Harrison" sound...and the Mixer and EQ's on the Channels are
different, as well as including the Tape Saturation and Limiter on the Master Channel.

So using Ardour would not be the same...

Also, Ardour does not run on Windows....it refers you to Mixbus for Windows...


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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/10 17:10:02 (permalink)
Thanks, Cclarry. i wasn't meaning to diss MixBus. I was saying that if you want to play with a very similar DAW, Adour3 is freely available. I didn't realize it can't be run on Windows. I use it on Linux. When I use Windows, I use Sonar.
 
I like having a handy Linux tool for recording.
 
I wonder if maybe I'm trying to justify not spending the $20 for MixBus.

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/10 18:02:09 (permalink)
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Thanks, Cclarry. i wasn't meaning to diss MixBus. I was saying that if you want to play with a very similar DAW, Adour3 is freely available. I didn't realize it can't be run on Windows. I use it on Linux. When I use Windows, I use Sonar.
 
I like having a handy Linux tool for recording.
 
I wonder if maybe I'm trying to justify not spending the $20 for MixBus.




All good G....I knew what you were getting at...and I'm hoping that 
Mixbus V3 gets the changes that Ardour did...64 bit and MIDI....
I'd be a happy camper...LOL


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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/15 09:55:04 (permalink)
Well I broke down and got MB. Last day today for the $20 sale.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/15 10:02:38 (permalink)
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Well I broke down and got MB. Last day today for the $20 sale.


You'll be happy you did....


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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/15 10:55:00 (permalink)
I gotta say, I was very dubious with all the usual, it has this "sound," lamentations that were flying about the web.
 
Though after figuring, eh it's 20 bucks and buying the thing?!! At first I thought I was suffering from cockstruckdom. Like the first go, always seems exciting because you haven't been there before and your senses are primed to overload, no matter what. But after giving it a few spins over the last two days? I'm finding that the reviews saying it's easy to find a good sound quickly, weren't lying!
 
Comparing this to other programs, in all honestly isn't a huge difference. But it's definitely there in terms of thickness and clarity. The biggest point isn't really the final sound, but how quickly you arrive at that point, that kind of makes the difference.
 
Ultimately for 20 bucks? I feel like I ripped them off... And I feel that, that is the true sign that you've made a good purchase!!!
 
PS: I have had the joy (???) of utilising the destructive editing feature and was hit by a tsunami of nightmares from my 16 track Tascam digital recording days! Dear god I just want to polish a turd! Why won't you let me polish my faeces!!!

Royal Yaksman
 
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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/15 10:58:34 (permalink)
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I gotta say, I was very dubious with all the usual, it has this "sound," lamentations that were flying about the web.
 
Though after figuring, eh it's 20 bucks and buying the thing?!! At first I thought I was suffering from cockstruckdom. Like the first go, always seems exciting because you haven't been there before and your senses are primed to overload, no matter what. But after giving it a few spins over the last two days? I'm finding that the reviews saying it's easy to find a good sound quickly, weren't lying!
 
Comparing this to other programs, in all honestly isn't a huge difference. But it's definitely there in terms of thickness and clarity. The biggest point isn't really the final sound, but how quickly you arrive at that point, that kind of makes the difference.
 
Ultimately for 20 bucks? I feel like I ripped them off... And I feel that, that is the true sign that you've made a good purchase!!!
 
PS: I have had the joy (???) of utilising the destructive editing feature and was hit by a tsunami of nightmares from my 16 track Tascam digital recording days! Dear god I just want to polish a turd! Why won't you let me polish my faeces!!!






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Re: Harrison Mixbus special $19.95 2014/05/15 11:08:00 (permalink)
Without midi - mixbus is not a complete daw for everyday / everything. However... I love this tool. May be the best $20 you'll ever spend on music gear.
 
To some of the posters asking about plugins. VST32 works fine. What I found is for mixing and or in-house limited by me mastering - mixbus has most of what I need without using a lot of 3rd party vst's. The 3 option compressor offers a Leveler which is similar in sound/control of the ca2a. The limiter/tape module and eq are all very good! The sound is just plain ole, not guessing, good!!! If you get this software, take some time and watch a few videos and read at minimum sections of the manual that may apply for your understanding to at least use the software for mixing. I plan to keep diving deeper in MB and learning to be efficient with track/clip editing. But I have Sonar for the speed of getting editing done fast.
 
Always been an admirer of Cake's products and now I can say I'm also an admirer of HMB!! My suggestion is to grab it while it's so cheap and then once again I'll type it... take some time to learn to properly use this fine tool. It's worth the effort.

 
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