Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack?

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2012/09/12 22:05:32 (permalink)

Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack?

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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/12 22:13:13 (permalink)
    I didn't buy the pack but I bought them all. They were all on sale at one time or another.
    I like them all but my favorite is the Concrete Limiter. I also like the PC2A T-Type Leveling Amplifier. The  PC4K S-Type Expander / Gate is also useful. 

    I think they are all darn good.

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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 04:24:09 (permalink)
    Likewise.

    Don't forget, they weren't introduced as a complete pack but rolled out one at a time, which is how I and a lot of others purchased them.

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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 04:37:31 (permalink)
    John


    I didn't buy the pack but I bought them all. They were all on sale at one time or another.
    I like them all but my favorite is the Concrete Limiter. I also like the PC2A T-Type Leveling Amplifier. The  PC4K S-Type Expander / Gate is also useful. 

    I think they are all darn good.


    Snap to all of that.

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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 06:18:01 (permalink)

    I bought some of them.

    They seem kind of expensive for something you can only use with the SONAR Producer dongle.

    Heck they don't even work in SONAR Studio or Essential.

    There's better.

    There's cheaper.

    There's cheaper and better.

    Most of the alternatives come with real value. e.g. you may use them in the other DAWs you need now that we have all learned that we need several DAWs to get a full spectrum of functionality.



    Most of the people who have bought, downloaded, and use the Pro  Channel stuff got their goodies for $10 a pop... which ought to leave you with some sense of how valuable a set of dongled and crippled VST efx is worth these days.


    You can buy em and try em, or consider some great alternatives. Some of the alternative actually have demos that you may try.


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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 10:06:05 (permalink)
    It would seem that Mr. Graig Anderton  thinks highly of them. See here.

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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 10:22:17 (permalink)
    I have also purchased all 4 of them when they came out.  It seems every project I have created in the past year now has at least 3..  Looking at them in summary, I have used the PC2A on almost every vocal track (maybe I am addicted - I just add it when I am done tracking-always), the concrete limiter on individual instrument tracks that I wanted more power on, and the compressor on a lot of individual drum tracks which helped me tame and make them stand out.. I have only used the gate a few times it seems, more than likely because I have not learned to 'hear' the areas it can be applied in. You can tell, I am not the technical type - but I am very happy with the sound results, the ease in which they are used, and the pro channel concept of having them right in front of me as I mix.  I would certainly purchase them again.
     
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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 11:41:47 (permalink)
    I'm in the "+" camp for the plugins....the gate works wonders on noisey guitar tracks for me.  The concrete limiter is finding a place in just about every mix.

    Like LLyons,  I am not a tech guy.  they are simple and easy enough for me and my mixes are way better 'cause of them.   
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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 11:47:28 (permalink)
    I was looking at that bundle but I already have the thingy that came with the Expanded Suite so I'm just waiting to see if the individual modules go on sale. I think the Concrete Limiter would be something I'd use.
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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 11:52:22 (permalink)
    I am in the same boat as Beepster.  I will wait for the Concrete Limiter and PC2A to go on sale.  Hopefully together for the people who got the Expander/Gate on the upgrade. (Hint hint)

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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 11:58:28 (permalink)
    I have them all. Mainly for compatibility purposes (in case I get a project from someone that uses them). I too got at least half of them at the sale price.
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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 12:22:06 (permalink)
    I too bought them all for the nearly give away prices they were offered at on release. Didn't think twice about them.
    I like how compact and usable they are in SONAR and look forward to the expanded functions o the ProChannel in X2 but like Mike Mcue I'm disappointed that they only work in SONAR.
    Don't know if I'd have bought them at their current price points.
    I use various DAWs and true VST implementation is important for the the versatility I want.
    All that being said they are a pretty competent bunch of plugins and the low overhead makes it a nobrainer for use in SONAR exclusive projects.

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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 16:13:19 (permalink)

    The only one I don't have is the PC2A. Would've got it when it first came out for the low price but I was a little disgruntled w/ Cake at the time and refused to buy anymore plugins due to some things not functioning properly w/in Sonar and needing to be fixed.  Plus I really don't need it.  My issues have reportedly been fixed in X2 so I might get it if another really good sale comes along (assuming X2 functions properly).

    I will say they're all useful in the right situations and I'm actually finding the Concrete Limiter to come in a lot more handy than I thought it would.  At least on individual tracks.  

    I think I got the gate when they were doing the $10 promotion and honestly that's the only reason I bothered to get it.  I thought I would never really use it, but it has actually come in handy on a few separate occasions also.

    With that said, I personally would never pay the full asking price due the proprietary nature of the plugs alone, but if a good deal comes along I would recommend picking them up.
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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 16:37:11 (permalink)
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    Most of the people who have bought, downloaded, and use the Pro Channel stuff got their goodies for $10 a pop... which ought to leave you with some sense of how valuable a set of dongled and crippled VST efx is worth these days.

    The "Concrete limiter" was the only plugin offered for $10. It was also a 'thank you" gesture from Cakewalk towards those who had purchased all previous Pro Channel plugins (including Sonar X1 Expanded). It was a very nice gesture on their part. One I have taken advantage of without regret, quite the contrary. Just dotting the i's and the j's. 
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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 18:02:08 (permalink)
    The Concrete Limiter was not the only plug offered for $10.
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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 18:26:18 (permalink)
    The$10/£9 deal was for the next PC Module you  didn't have  in order of release, if that makes sense.  So you're both kind of right.  Each person could only get one module for ten pounds.  I got expanded.
     
    The modules I did buy in various sales ranging from £14.99 to £29.50.  So it may be worth waiting for sales.  If you have lots of money, buy them now.  They're great.
     
    I think they all have there uses, and sound good.  The workflow is fantastic.
     
    Some people don't like X1, which is fine.  Some don't like the PC, which is also  fine.  Some are more vociferous than others.  This does not make them right.
     
    If I can't hold an adult attitude in front of something, I walk away.
     
    For me, and many others, the PC and its various modules are great. YYMV.
     
     

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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 18:51:32 (permalink)
    JB101, That post was outstanding.

    I don't see the reason for the negative comments by Mike unless its based in bitterness that X1 is clearly a success. 

    Further people have scrutinized and tested these modules and they seem to hold up well against far more expensive plugins and the PC as a channel strip is unbeatable for its very low CPU usage. CW has been very forth coming with documentation on just how they are designed.

    As to it being proprietary that could be seen as a mark against them. On the other hand why would CW give out that technology to be used in any DAW?  It makes X1 producer unique and a DAW to envy. It has something no one else has. In this case its the sound without a massive CPU hit. 

    Being flippest about a breakthrough of this sort just reeks of sour grapes. 

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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/13 23:27:41 (permalink)
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    The$10/£9 deal was for the next PC Module you  didn't have  in order of release, if that makes sense.  So you're both kind of right.  Each person could only get one module for ten pounds.  I got expanded.
     
    The modules I did buy in various sales ranging from £14.99 to £29.50.  So it may be worth waiting for sales.  If you have lots of money, buy them now.  They're great.
     
    I think they all have there uses, and sound good.  The workflow is fantastic.
     
    Some people don't like X1, which is fine.  Some don't like the PC, which is also  fine.  Some are more vociferous than others.  This does not make them right.
     
    If I can't hold an adult attitude in front of something, I walk away.
     
    For me, and many others, the PC and its various modules are great. YYMV.
     
     
    Thanks for clarifying. I was going to reply but I saw your message and you basically did my job :)


    THe $10 deal was a thank you to loyal customers back in January. Everyone with SONAR X1 Producer got something for $10 depending on what they owned. 


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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/14 03:15:32 (permalink)
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    Your thoughts?
     
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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/14 05:51:19 (permalink)
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    JB101, That post was outstanding.

    I don't see the reason for the negative comments by Mike unless its based in bitterness that X1 is clearly a success. 

    Further people have scrutinized and tested these modules and they seem to hold up well against far more expensive plugins and the PC as a channel strip is unbeatable for its very low CPU usage. CW has been very forth coming with documentation on just how they are designed.

    As to it being proprietary that could be seen as a mark against them. On the other hand why would CW give out that technology to be used in any DAW?  It makes X1 producer unique and a DAW to envy. It has something no one else has. In this case its the sound without a massive CPU hit. 

    Being flippest about a breakthrough of this sort just reeks of sour grapes. 

    I completely agree, John. I think 90% of Sonar users will like the PC stuff. I personally would love to see the PC plugs come with the program but understand their needs to sell them. I also sort of share what Mike is talking about, but I wouldn't put it as harsh. I have loads of plugs. I would say the majority of them (including the UAD plugs) are "different" than the PC plugs, not really better. Some are definitely better, but it depends on how the stuff gets used as well as the material you use it on. I can also say that I feel some of the PC plugs are better than some of the stuff I've paid top dollar for as well.
     
    For example, I've heard people I hold in high regard praise the Fab Filter stuff. I don't particularly like it. I've got friends that love the Sonnox stuff....I hate it. It's nice to have that PC stuff there as an option as well as having my UAD, Waves, Fab Filter or anything else. They are just different tools really. Some of the PC modules are a bit high in my opinion and the reason being, what Mike said. You're paying close to what some of the well known plug companies charge and yet you can only use this stuff in Sonar. I'm not bashing their methods, I just don't totally agree with them.
     
    At the end of the day, it's really nice to see a bunch of plugs that are completely visible to me right in PC without double clicking on an effects bin plug. That alone makes me gravitate towards them. The fact that they work well and look cool is icing on the cake.
     
    For example, I've compared the PC2A to the Waves and UAD versions. They all behave a bit differently yet perform well in different situations. I don't feel the PC Concrete Limiter stacks up to the PSP Xenon, but I'd say it gives the Waves L1 a run for its money. I think the PC bus comp is every bit as good as the Waves SSL yet has it's own way of handling things. The 76 is really close to the other 76's I have, but I feel it doesn't quite stack up to the UAD 1176 pack. Then again, it shouldn't....that's 4 plugs against one there as I have 4 different 1176's modeled from....4 different 1176's. LOL! (one that came with the UAD card, the others were part of a classic package) The gate/expander is as good as any gate/expander I've used. I'm not a fan of ANY of the Saturation plugs from anyone...but the one with the big knob is kinda cool due to the high/mid/low option it gives for a little control on where it sizzles.
     
    So they all have a place really and are just more tools for my tool box. I do have plugs that do whay they do...sure. We all do. Are they necessities? This will always be in the ears and workflow of the beholder. If someone can afford them, I say yeah...they make Sonar a bit more complete and I'm glad I have them all. The more you do this stuff (especially in a money making situation) the more you appreciate having more options because you just never know what you'll be faced with tomorrow. :)
     
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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/14 12:02:01 (permalink)
    Maybe I'd better research more before just handing over cash for the PC stuff.
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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/14 17:10:01 (permalink)
    I've got all of the PC modules but I haven't used them in anger yet so I can't pass judgement. I will say, however, that I like the principle of having the PC strip as opposed to using the effects bin.

    One question I have been asking myself lately is, does someone that produces mainly electronic stuff using virtual synths really need PC anyway? I think the only time I will use some of those modules would be to tame some of the damaging low frequency waves that some of the synths produce and can be below the normal human ear range (or even high frequency stuff as well).

    I dunno... perhaps I have answered my own question there...

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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/14 20:55:29 (permalink)
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    One question I have been asking myself lately is, does someone that produces mainly electronic stuff using virtual synths really need PC anyway? I think the only time I will use some of those modules would be to tame some of the damaging low frequency waves that some of the synths produce and can be below the normal human ear range (or even high frequency stuff as well).

    I dunno... perhaps I have answered my own question there...

    Most certainly you can benefit from PC modules. Do you not eq, compress, limit, gate/expand, tweak, damage, distort, clean up or reverberate in electronic music? Wouldn't you like to see stuff that is capable of performing those tasks right in pro channel? My answer would be "yes" no matter what style of music I'm into. :)
     
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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/16 12:36:06 (permalink)
    Hi Danny, yes, of course, and I don't know what I was thinking there and I can only blame the amount of pain killers I'm on at the moment lolz they're knocking me sideways...

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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/16 13:02:06 (permalink)
    LOL, you poor guy! I know that feeling! And I don't miss it. Although, I gotta admit, I didn't much mind Vicodin even if it didn't stop my pain. Hahaha! I hope you feel better and what ever is causing your pain goes away.

    At the end of the day synkotron, the PC plugs will always be subjective really. I think they work well but can also admit to not using them exclusively. I think they have their place and like most of the Sonar related plugs, really give you a bang for the buck. As you know, I'm also in the same camp as you. It's nice to have them right there in front of me in PC without double clicking an fx bin plug. :)

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    Re:Has Anyone Bought The Cakewalk ProChannel Pack? 2012/09/16 16:57:09 (permalink)
    I have all but the Expander/Gate and the PC2A leveling Amplifier.  Not sure that I need the gate, but am looking to purchase the 2A next time it goes on sale.
    The ProChannel really works well for me and my style.  I use the daylights out of it in my projects and folks say my work is getting better all the time.

    Actually, I recently won a 1st Place spot in the Telefunken Mixdown Olympics, and the PC modules were used extensively in that project.

    So yes, I'm a fan.

    Good luck.

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