Has Anyone Else Got The Email For The New Mixbus 32C?

I just got the email a little while ago. It's supposedly based on the 32 series consoles from 40 years ago. It kinda sounds like Mixbus 3 with 4 more stereo busses. Just wondering what everyone's opinion is on this.

If it's based on the 32c console then it's probably going to be built with whole new modeling algorithms right? Because the regular Mixbus is based on the digital DSP that Harrison developed in the 90's, which was meant to recreate the classic Harrison sound with digital chips. I wonder how much of the regular Mixbus code is just ported from their digital chips from the 90's? If they've modeled an older console though they would have to write new routines from the ground up though? 

Also, I note that in the email they say "the world renowned Harrison 32C analog console was used on records by Michael Jackson “Thriller", Paul Simon “Graceland," which is exactly what they said for the regular Mixbus. So I think using Thriller and Graceland in the blurb for the original Mixbus was a bit of a stretch, since it's based on the DSP they developed for the 90's model consoles - I guess their reasoning was that that DSP was intended to model the sound of the earlier analog consoles, so you're getting a kind of "modeling twice removed" from Thriller and Graceland, whereas this new Mixbus is based on the real deal. Are we confused yet? 

yeah, I'm confused ... and that monitor limitation is odd (well, 32C was a tall console, but if I need a monitor the size of the console it may be a bit of a drawback). IMHO it does not need to look exactly like the old 32C (never saw more than a few pictures) and it does not need to sound exactly like it (it just needs to sound good and not just sum 1s and 0s) - which they claim for 3.3 already ...

I paid for the upgrade of Mixbus 3 and I thought I would be good to go until Mixbus 4. Now they bring out Mixbus 32C. And then want $149 for the program. I find this a bit discouraging. I paid for one upgrade and it will probably be the last.

cowboydan
I paid for the upgrade of Mixbus 3 and I thought I would be good to go until Mixbus 4. Now they bring out Mixbus 32C. And then want $149 for the program. I find this a bit discouraging. I paid for one upgrade and it will probably be the last.

Not sure I understand this sentiment, are you upset simply that they've released another product, or are you under the impression that the release of it will mean no more updates for Mixbus? 

sharke

cowboydan
I paid for the upgrade of Mixbus 3 and I thought I would be good to go until Mixbus 4. Now they bring out Mixbus 32C. And then want $149 for the program. I find this a bit discouraging. I paid for one upgrade and it will probably be the last.

Not sure I understand this sentiment, are you upset simply that they've released another product, or are you under the impression that the release of it will mean no more updates for Mixbus? 

I am under the impression that the new product will undermine the current work for Mixbus 3.3

Sidroe
I have had nothing but driver problems on my desktop rig with ver. 3 and Sonar getting along. They seem to work fine on my laptop. This makes it not worth upgrading for me. Very sad, because I do love tracking and mastering in 3.3. The sound is great but not worth spending more money on software that creates nothing but headaches. Maybe when they iron out the problems with Studio-Capture drivers I will consider bumping up but for now I will stay where I'm at!!!

Sidroe,
 
Did you try the "Use Buffered IO" in the startup with your OctaCapture? That was implemented almost specifically for Roland drivers.

bapu

Sidroe
I have had nothing but driver problems on my desktop rig with ver. 3 and Sonar getting along. They seem to work fine on my laptop. This makes it not worth upgrading for me. Very sad, because I do love tracking and mastering in 3.3. The sound is great but not worth spending more money on software that creates nothing but headaches. Maybe when they iron out the problems with Studio-Capture drivers I will consider bumping up but for now I will stay where I'm at!!!

Sidroe,
 
Did you try the "Use Buffered IO" in the startup with your OctaCapture? That was implemented almost specifically for Roland drivers.

Sidroe,
 
I had big issues myself in the last 2 days until I read somewhere that you need to cycle that "buffered IO" button every time you start Mixbus (even if lit from last time, then you need to click twice i.e. off and on again, presumably it is not properly saved). Somehow this seems to have cured all my start-up issues. Mixbus now starts fine everytime using the Roland driver and releases it when I exit the software. Hope it stays like that. Haven't messed with it enough, though, to make it crash (so I can't say what happens to the driver in that case)

Hey, Bapu! I tried the buffer switch and still no love from Mixbus and Sonar!!! I think it probably is Mixbus and Sonar just will not share the ASIO driver between themselves. Mixbus 3 still works on my laptop alongside of Sonar but the Focusrite is too few inputs to do live recording. It will work for mastering purposes though. I guess I'll just have to say goodbye to Mixbus as far as 24-32 track live capture! It worked great with Mixbus 2 but 3 has really been an ordeal. I will do some research in to how to get an ASIO driver shared without these problems.
I do appreciate the help!

Bapu, have you had a chance to spend any time with 32C? If so, what's your opinion on sound compared to MB3?

bapu

Leadfoot
Bapu, have you had a chance to spend any time with 32C? If so, what's your opinion on sound compared to MB3?

Not yet Led. I plan on doing that tomorrow. Mainly to see how the EQ fares up compared to my UAD 32C EQ.
 
Speculation/opinion on the Mixbus forum is that 32C is a more creative EQ vs Mixbus 3 which is more surgical.

Yeah, I've read that too. Still looking forward to your opinion before I make a decision. Please post your thoughts after you try it out, if you don't mind.

Bapu, if I can't use 2 synced together, that defeats my purpose to use Mixbus to record live! Sometimes for live recording I need at least 24 or more tracks realtime. Mixbus seems to be working fine on my laptop so I will use it. It's just disheartening when Mixbus worked on both rigs so well until upgrading to 3. Even Ben at Harrison can't seem to work it out. 
I saw the other tip about toggling the buffered input switch every time you open Mixbus. I may give that a shot and see. Thanks, guys!

tempting.........
 
I've found a few minor issues but I really like this thing, and it seems they are committed to improving it. 
 
dagnabit bapu, I let you pull me down the rabbit hole! ;)

I would probably get it if they iron out the Roland drivers problem!