Have you deleted your Facebook account yet?

Frontline is doing a two-part documentary about Facebook. It's all stuff that's already been in the news, but the show summarizes it all very nicely. They've just put Part One on YouTube:

 
Just about everyone in my orbit is addicted to it. My own band posts gigs on FB, which is how I find out when and where I'm playing next. Of course, I have to ask my daughter, because I have no Facebook account myself.
 
There has been a lot of discussion lately about whether or not AI is dangerous. I think we've seen the repercussions of AI's dark side already, in the form of Facebook's news feed. Whenever you like something, it feeds you more of the same. They call it a "filter bubble". Pretty soon you get the feeling that Position A is the way everybody feels about it, and Position B is championed only by idiots.

I'm not convinced social media is actually good for humans and, particularly, diversity of thought.  I deleted my Facebook account years ago.  It was weird at first, felt like I was missing out, I think I was starting to get that addiction, but now I don't miss it one bit and feel 100% mentally healthier and stronger for it.  

dmbaer
Never had a Facebook page and never felt deprived in the least for that state of affairs.  This forum gives me enough of an online community daily fix - any more and I'd be wasting too much valuable time that would be more profitably spent doing constructive things.  I must say, however, that I'm feeling a bit smug these days about having ignored the FB phenomena from the start.

 
What he said.

I caught that Frontline show on Facebook last night ...Sure hope I see the second installment tonight ..
 
I am not a fan of anything that has too do with Facebook on any level shape or form .
The day I signed up years ago F B  went through all my e mail contacts before I knew what hit me ...
Then it took months to delete my FB acct ...for all I know it is still floating out there w out my consent .
 
I find it incredulous that in every area of my life I am accountable for every action I take and not having all the facts in my possession does not constitute a valid defense for my position on the subject or my resulting actions based on the information I had on hand when my said actions took place ..
 
Example , If I don't see the posted Speed Limit sign it will not matter to the cop that is writing me a ticket for speeding ...
Since that is the case for an individual then ,
How is it effing possible that a multi Billion dollar corporation comprised of self serving A Hole Wanna Be Hipsters  Movers and Social Shakers can even try to claim they were pure and idealistic in the creation of this monstrosity called Face Book ?
$hit flows from the top down right ? Why do they get a pass when it comes to following the law and peoples rights to have all the facts disclosed ?
How is it that they can be claiming they never saw or considered the posted signs ...and then have the stones as a company to talk their way out of a far worse situation ...and get away with it ...
 
In The End is it really all about the bucks that matter ? 
 
The very fact that people in the know are trying to pretend and conceal the plain and simple facts of what really was going on with F B is comparable to a 50 dollar a fling hooker working fleet week .When she is done w all the sailors she goes home takes a shower , brushes her teeth and then she puts on a white wedding dress while she heads off to her Chapel Wedding on a fine Sunday morning claiming to still be a virgin to her gullible husband too be .
 
No Diff In MY Book
 
There is a thing in life called Half Truths and The Real Truth ...it goes something like this ...
If I was too tell you Orange Juice is good for you ..you may agree ..many people would agree to that statement .
I offer you a glass of Orange Juice but I don't tell you that I spiked the drink with an odorless tasteless poison and that it may kill you if you drink the juice ...
As I offer you the drink you take it thinking Orange Juice is good for you ...
(like most people you will probably drink it )
 
Now what Have I Done Here ? 
The short and simple explanation is I offered up a half truth as a motivating factor in getting you to trust me and earn my approval ..
When One sells a Half Truth they must leave out the other Half ...which happens to be very important ..if not the most important thing to consider ..
THE TRUTH
Telling you Orange Juice is good for you is pretty much a truth for many people except a rare few people in life ... 
The very fact that I concealed the actions of my spiking your drink with poison indicates on a broad spectrum that I am not concerned with you health wealth or well being
I am only concerned with what is in it for me and how I will benefit...
This train of thought is prevalent all across the spectrum of human & corporate society  ...
 
This deception  has also been proven historically regarding races of people , nations and whole eras of human history through out the passage of time  ..
Don't believe me ? Go ask and American Indian about The American Western Culture & History and see if his or her History Jives with the historical half truths our schools have been selling our History student's for decades ?
If that does not convince you  look at what happened in Europe , WW2 and ( sorry folks ) Germany 
 
My point is when the truth is transparent and plain for every one to see , most people would actually be appalled at
what lengths manipulative people and groups of people bound by collective desires and greed will go to get their wants ...
If I said to you here's a glass of Orange Juice BTW I spiked it with an odorless tasteless poison ..
Here you go "Drink Up my Friend " chances are you would decline the drink and then question our friendship and my motives ...RIGHT ?
 
Well there you have it ...it has always been somewhat of a half truth when it comes to F B ...
As I step down from my high horse podium my lingering thought is Humans as a whole are very fallible ...
It is entirely possible for someone to set out to do something for all the right reasons and in the end due to unforeseen events that may materialize they may have their honest motives thwarted and become responsible for adding much more Drama And Chaos to the world  ....
 
Kenny

Turns out, you don't even need a Facebook account to get sucked into their database...

Facebook is the Devil.

bapu

paulo

dmbaer
Never had a Facebook page and never felt deprived in the least for that state of affairs.  This forum gives me enough of an online community daily fix - any more and I'd be wasting too much valuable time that would be more profitably spent doing constructive things.  I must say, however, that I'm feeling a bit smug these days about having ignored the FB phenomena from the start.

 
What he said.

What he said about what he aid.

What they said

Never had a Facebook account. You can find me on Assbook.

Careful ... Skynet is watching.....

I use facebook mainly to catch up with family, get the latest photo's of their kids etc, as most of them live 400 miles away.
 
However, I've pretty much taken all personal details off my account and locked it down as much as possible.
 
I got a HUGE shock when I downloaded my privacy report... not so much for what it had about me, but the fact that it had the mobile numbers, email addresses + loads of personal details of just about everyone in my friends list - most of who are either acquaintances or "friends of friends". I doubt if half of them would volunteer to share that information in person.
 
Facebook messenger is even worse, as it literally sucks all that data out and sticks it in your contact list.  
 

If Face Book  and u tube is so good for my music and bands , then why is it  I will never be able to do music full time ever again ? ( unless I met a rich gal that lowered her standards in the bf department )
Those two corporations have literally sold people on the idea you need these apps to get exposure..

It's worse than the social musicians curse of pay to play .
At least with pay to play you got to do your thing on a stage playing in a band live in front of an audience
What's the diff ?
It used to be The Big Dogs made money and the Little Dogs got to play in the playground and grab the scraps ..
Now Its  All the Little Dogs think they are playing in The Big Dog playground because of the illusions and shadows of the real thing that social media presents as the way forward .
 
In reality the game changed to become an on the surface  pretentious altruistic game where every body thinks they are putting out stuff for the sake of contributing and making the world a better place ...
Now it is true some people are gifted and make the world a better place just by their very presence in this world ...if you are one of those people I hope to meet you someday and shake your hand .

As for the rest (meaning me ...)
How the eff did it turn out that I have spent thousands and thousands of dollars on every aspect of my music and creative pursuit's in Music and in the end I have become " AN ALSO RAN " ?
Yeah that's right I could have been a contender .
I worked hard enough for decades with the goal of becoming a CONTENDER ...
I put in the work , I laid out the cash for my tools , I left NY , I even  went to LA ,
Yeah , its true , I sat down and played with some Big Boys ....
Now I'm sitting here with my thumb up my a$$ trying to figure out how I went from "what's happening " to  "what the eff just happened "

You see let me put it in painful simple to understand  English , in my day if you wanted to get good at playing music you knew there was no guarantees but hey that price was acceptable for most ( myself included ) 
You paid your dues by practicing . If you had the desire and cash you took lessons when you found the right teacher . You also went to jam sessions , did open mics , sat in , guested on songwriters demos as a player and you beat a path stapling up posters of your bands upcoming gigs on telephone poles ..

The social activity of paying music  did in deed have a social pay off  as you you networked , met people , got to hang in a reliability sane networks of clubs and music venues and if you were lucky you made a few bucks playing ... 

Those day s seem to be over ....let me explain ..
I became a targeted resource and a hoped for possible future income source that any company that has a new musical thing a ma jig  wants to sell their product too ...
Not only do I have a bright neon target on my back so they can find me , they have also made me their poster boy for making the hard sell ( that is if they ever succeed ) .
Folks , This is no accident ,  they do not even respect or care anything about me whatsoever .
All they want is a little piece of my Cash ...
( damn you CC L it seems your a advanced VST D Day ( Deal Day ) landing party for the big boys )
In the eyes of the internet I became a commodity to be bought , sold and bartered with  ....
I think it is very Odd that even though I have a number of vintage amplifiers of various brands  , I also have about $1500 invested in amp sims ...
I don't even play drums yet if I took the money I have in drum VST's  I could have a few choice pieces  off a  Maple set of Ludwig Drums
 
Anyway , let me stop now before I start getting into Keyboards Synths and Plugs ....
 
I would lie to thank my peers for having put me under such pressure to spill my gut's and listening to my rants ...
A very special warm thanks goes out to F B for having brain washed every one into think you gave them a voice when in fact they already had one
An a Warm F U goes out to u tube for bombarding me with mediocre guitar players from all over the world that can't play worth a $hit yet for some odd reason you feel compelled to lump them in on my video song feeds where I may only have a few thousand listens while they have millions of listens  ....
 
Kenny
 

bitflipper
Frontline is doing a two-part documentary about Facebook. It's all stuff that's already been in the news, but the show summarizes it all very nicely. They've just put Part One on YouTube:

 
Just about everyone in my orbit is addicted to it. My own band posts gigs on FB, which is how I find out when and where I'm playing next. Of course, I have to ask my daughter, because I have no Facebook account myself.
 
There has been a lot of discussion lately about whether or not AI is dangerous. I think we've seen the repercussions of AI's dark side already, in the form of Facebook's news feed. Whenever you like something, it feeds you more of the same. They call it a "filter bubble". Pretty soon you get the feeling that Position A is the way everybody feels about it, and Position B is championed only by idiots.

Yeah Ive deleted it!
 
Feels so good!