Having Some SONAR Issues, Please Help

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2012/04/06 15:10:47 (permalink)

Having Some SONAR Issues, Please Help

im shure as fast as i type this the fanboys will be out  to protect them.
 but the fact that us as consumers have been overcharged due to the new marketing strategy of cakewalk.
 iv  tryed eveything to get the issue with PC resolved, it had my best payed job hostage with a error message over
 the brick limiter. for weeks
 after askin on the forum and 6 long chats with support i have now been forced to refund the money for the project
 that is 1500 bucks over a plug in they gave away for 10 buck.
 i have tryed all advice offered and was told by sonar themself i would have to compleatly rebuild my project.
and as we know it never was the same, the client was unhappy watching sonar crash everytime i moved audio
 in the track view or piano view.
and now i have been driven to revisit sonar as a solid work horse daw.
 so please save it  thefanboys, its not my system cus i have 4 rigs with sonar, and it is the same on all. its broken period.
but the thing that offended me the most was the support i got and threats of getting ban since i dont just pay money for updating broken things i own, my only income for my famialy is now gone, i take this to heart.and its painful
 iv gone as far as to offer my service to cakewalk for free , and gone there in person and  have been asked to stay silent and hopful for some help.nothin happens with company  who just want profit ,period the help ends when somthing is need for $$$
 so as all the cakwalk employee's go home to enjoy there weekend . il be movin my studio since i have no reson to keep it.
sonar was the average guys daw, it saw cheap and easy, with great support back in the day.
 and besides a few gems like brandon and kelly  in the home office.support has been treating me like  a begger.with personal attacks
and with the group of buy anything fanboys we failed at keepin sonar in cheak with there money grabin update cycle.
so thanks PC and sonar for helpin distroy my dreams and my only sorce of income, just like any other company would these day.
sorry to the guys who hwre helpful and kind for postin this, as most here will just throw some digs and act  like there the better than us little guys ,
 i have been spendin my day takin down all the free add's iv had up for sonar.yes i code web pages too.
 cus why give them free press and support for a broken glichie product.
il be movin today and one last time tryed to get some help before the weekend , guess what.it didnt work.
 have a great day guys , and please next time remember where all not rich, and plugins and toys dont make you a good producer or musician,and charging for little parts of a bigger item to me is just like everyone else.its called greed.smell ya later forum.
 o ya il be banned by days end im shure. so in the end i can honestly say i hate Prochannel.or as they call it payed updates.
and to all who dont know the full producer expanded sonar . is just a nice market trick to get quaterly income, nothing more.
it way very well thought out, but still is a scam.scriped plugs are not somthing that should be sold by a daw builder it just gives them the chance to be cheep, and overcharge.and havin to defend workarounds for things that are broken is just lyin to yourself
 
post edited by Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk] - 2012/04/06 16:18:12

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    bapu
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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 15:15:10 (permalink)
    So long.

    It's been good knowing you.
    I nominate this as the best goodbye fred EVER!


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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 15:19:16 (permalink)
    well sonar has lost its credibility.
    Sickvision


     ...the fact that us as consumers have been overcharged due to the new marketing strategy of cakewalk.
    ...a plug in they gave away for 10 buck. 
    This price gouging HAS GOT TO STOP!!!!!!
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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 15:22:51 (permalink)
    Well...let me (once again) show my potential dimbulbedness.  Are you saying that you had a project on which you used the ProChannel on several or many (or all) tracks and that because the new limiter wouldn't work your only option was to rebuild your entire project?  How come you couldn't just turn off the ProChannel on all tracks and use the Sonitus plugs instead??  Sorry...I don't get it.

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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 15:27:58 (permalink)
    I really do empathise with some of the frustration expressed and whatever else it seems to me like there is one unhappy customer.

    I do however think that some of the content there is a bit hard to swallow like having a $1500 project riding on a $10 plug-in for example and having to close a studio down for this singular reason seems to indicate that the studio was on anything but stable ground in the first place.

    I sincerly hope you have better luck moving forward and personally I myself would like to see a better balance WRT Cakewalk staff dealing with this kind of upset and frustration as readily as they do commenting on newly released modules.

    I know there are types who like to moan for the sake of it but largely people complain because they feel they have reason to.

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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 15:36:03 (permalink)
    bapu


    So long.

    It's been good knowing you.
    I nominate this as the best goodbye fred EVER!


    +1 - brilliant
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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 15:37:53 (permalink)
    May you someday find DAW happiness.  But I suspect it will be a while as long as you feel the need to keep up with the Joneses.  Making music is supposed to bring joy, and if you can't do it with the tools you have then I'm afraid it is time to step away from it for a bit.  I don't understand the need to have the latest and greatest as I  found joy in making music long before I had my first DAW and was recording myself on a tape cassette deck so thers could hear it. 

    May the joy of music continue even if our materialistic world has tainted it for you. 

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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 15:39:53 (permalink)
    bapu


    So long.

    It's been good knowing you.
    I nominate this as the best goodbye fred EVER!
    first off dont flatter yourself i dont know you, and with your quick responce of arragance . who would want too.
     o ya your a fanboy you can treat folks like crap, and get free software and a pat on the back.
    i didnt post for your opinion, but since your post is so personal. let me give you mine.
     you do your self and sonar no justice by acting like a kid on a forum. thats what EA forums are for.
      but nice to see your true colors behind your posts.
     but spoken like a true heartless  cakewalk fanboy.i rest my case.
     hope your computer crashes,oya you have sonar on spead dial.
     pupa hope my misfortune makes you happy. now get back in your closet
     

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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 15:44:04 (permalink)
    While I'm very sorry to hear about these issues, this forum is not for ranting or for personal attacks. If you want support you can of course email or call us, or you can ask questions here. Thread locked. 

    SP
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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 16:17:31 (permalink)
    OK, got a few PMs from some kind folks who genuinely want to help Sickvision so am reopening the thread so that they can do just that. Please keep this on specific issues so that we can help SV figure out his issues so that he can get back to making music.

    As a condition of the reopening, and in an effort to keep this on topic, I've changed the title of the thread.

    Thanks,

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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 16:18:28 (permalink)
    slick.. come on lets talk !!
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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 16:20:30 (permalink)
    Slick : ASUS990... post me the home page of your motherboard tell me the make and model of the videocard and what is the memory your using i need bios rev and chipset information !!
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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 16:25:04 (permalink)
    Slick I read your PM and will respect your rights, But Im in anytime your ready !!Im not going to tell you how many times I hit a brick wall in my 35 yrs, but I always found a way !!
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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 16:42:35 (permalink)
    sick..what exactly is happening and why would you have to build from scratch. i have had plugins crash in various applications and i simply disable them. maybe post your exact process and setup in detail and maybe one of the "fanboys" can help. Sorry you are going through this, but ranting is certainly not getting you anywhere. We all have been frustrated by programs that seem to work fine for others. i installed Reaper on a computer just to compare a few hings and it crashed from simply dragging a snare on to a timeline. i know that';s not typical, but **** happens. In any case, the whine method is not working so how about helping us to help you?
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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 16:46:08 (permalink)
    It's so hard to take a post seriously when there are no paragraphs, or capital letters, isn't it? R

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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 16:49:10 (permalink)
    Bapu... you trying to steal my crown?

    What is the problem Sickvision? If you can post exactly what has gone wrong, someone may be able to help but it's a little difficult to work out from the original post.
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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/06 17:34:37 (permalink)
    FastBikerBoy


    What is the problem Sickvision? If you can post exactly what has gone wrong, someone may be able to help but it's a little difficult to work out from the original post.

    +1

    You've got the attention of a company representative who is willing to keep the thread open, and it sounds like you have some support from those who PM'd Seth on your behalf.  So the floor is yours.

    It doesn't sound to me like you are going to get a better opportunity to be heard.

    So why not go for it?  Sticking to the problems and not the personalities will likely help too.


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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/09 11:05:30 (permalink)
    I guess he just wanted to hear himself complain and he really didn't want help after all.

    He had a golden opportunity right here to get the help he said he needed.

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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/09 11:16:20 (permalink)
    Mebee he's waiting on my reply?


    Looks like he got banned somewhere along the way.
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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/09 11:29:37 (permalink)
    That'll be the lets march on CW HQ call in a different thread earned him that, same subject though.
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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/09 12:23:05 (permalink)
    All I can offer is a little advice on small studio management. First one must make sure there is back up recording equipment always maintained and ready to go.In the world of the big boys, a professional studio would never go down for more than a few minutes. A small studio should strive for the same. And the client should only be ever dimly aware that something you are responsible for is not working. They might as well do it them selves as to have to sit there and listen to you blame software???. They are hiring you because you are the technician/ engineer.It will be your fault if your equipment does not work. You won't get much sympathy from anyone by blaming software.It's never the place to put the blame and others using it will never get behind you fan boy or not. They will try and help you figure out what is wrong with your "hardware" however so please take the time to answer and reply and get this sorted out.

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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/09 12:29:28 (permalink)
    Cactus Music


    All I can offer is a little advice on small studio management. First one must make sure there is back up recording equipment always maintained and ready to go.In the world of the big boys, a professional studio would never go down for more than a few minutes. A small studio should strive for the same. And the client should only be ever dimly aware that something you are responsible for is not working. They might as well do it them selves as to have to sit there and listen to you blame software???. They are hiring you because you are the technician/ engineer.It will be your fault if your equipment does not work. You won't get much sympathy from anyone by blaming software.It's never the place to put the blame and others using it will never get behind you fan boy or not. They will try and help you figure out what is wrong with your "hardware" however so please take the time to answer and reply and get this sorted out.

    Well said.
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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/09 12:32:11 (permalink)
    They will try and help you figure out what is wrong with your "hardware" however so please take the time to answer and reply and get this sorted out.
    He well might but he's been banned, something to do with wanting to torch CW HQ for selling prochannel modules I think.

    There's been plenty, including myself, that genuinely want to help fix his woes but he seems more hung up on the fact that PC modules aren't free than anything else.
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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/09 12:37:46 (permalink)
    Well, my point is, if you charge money then you are now a "professional" and need to study the way's and means of "professionalism. Ask any hard working ----.

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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/09 12:37:49 (permalink)
     Eh.....can a person make another username? Just sayin.

    This comes off like a poorly done alter ego. Please pass the popcorn

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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/09 18:51:15 (permalink)
      
     
     
     
    I bet he's over on other daw forums complaining about being banned. He just didnt get the simple concept of 'options'. As it turned out his own option to keep whining was his undoing!
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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/10 05:59:57 (permalink)
    Not to rub salt in, but I simply do not believe that anyone's entire livelihood is dependent on the functionality of a single limiter plug in. It would be far easier to sympathise if the OP could refrain from treating us all like idiots by claiming outright nonsense like this. It can't be believed by a sensible person.

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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/10 06:25:01 (permalink)
    There is a massive discrepancy between the thread title "Having Some SONAR Issues, Please Help" and what he actually posted.



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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/10 06:30:43 (permalink)
    The title was changed by Seth from something more inflammatory.

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    Re:well sonar has lost its credibility. 2012/04/10 06:49:13 (permalink)
    "He well might but he's been banned, something to do with wanting to torch CW HQ for selling prochannel modules I ",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the guy has issues lol wanting to protest in the middle of Boston about Cakewalk's marketing strategy ??? i hope he does, so he can make a complete fool of him self and wake up, and no ****ing way are you gonna let $1500 go out the windows cuz of the concrete limiter, its as simple as using anutha plug-in,the guy's full of shyte
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