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Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
I've been using 8.5.3 for about 5 years now and for some reason I really can't bring myself to upgrading to X3(I think before I do I need to upgrade my rig first) so I....or well...I wonder....DRAT!!
Trying to be serious here is impossible!
(I figured this place was more serious than upstairs(amateurs)....due to the posts up there, you know the funny Unserious ones they gripe about sometimes while dis'ing CH....but now it's an upside down world just because it's always been Unfunny here thank's to you know who....just thought I would mention that....even though you already know that....)
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/22 11:53:31
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It's either worth it or it isn't.
HTH
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/22 11:56:33
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Illustrating Irony is Impossible and sometimes... Unfunny. 
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/22 12:06:41
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paulo
It's either worth it or it isn't.
HTH
CTStump
Illustrating Irony is Impossible and sometimes...Unfunny.
A very balanced view though if I say so myself.
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/22 12:15:03
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As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys!
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/22 12:20:36
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Moshkiae
Hi,
What's "irony"?
the opposite of woody... I guess
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/22 12:39:00
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☄ Helpfulby CTStump 2014/02/23 01:14:36
CTStump
I've been using 8.5.3 for about 5 years now and for some reason I really can't bring myself to upgrading to X3(I think before I do I need to upgrade my rig first)
I don't think there's anything in the app itself that would need you to upgrade your rig. The X series has been performing smoother and faster for me than SONAR 8.5 ever did, even with my old hardware. P.S. I think there was something about the X-series benefiting from a video card with 512+ Mb of Vram. But an AMD 5450 is dirt cheap though...
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/22 13:14:16
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Moshkiae
Hi,
What's "irony"?
What you use on your shirtsy.
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/22 13:36:21
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The old blanket is the usual and cozy, the new blanket has to be broken in.
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/22 14:54:00
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☄ Helpfulby CTStump 2014/02/23 01:12:10
I will say there is an adjustment period to the X3 look and feel and to a lesser degree workflow, but I eased into it with X1 then X2.
Re: Workflow
If you are at the place where SONAR is just a big tape recorder with some occasional MIDI it may not affect you (initially) much.
However if you delve deep into MIDI, speed comping, video and choose to use the Pro Channel, it may take some getting used to.
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/22 14:55:12
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Oh yeah, if color customization is heavily your thing you might consider Panup's SONAR Mods.
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/22 17:40:30
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☄ Helpfulby CTStump 2014/02/23 01:12:17
Stump, your mistake was using the word "serious" n the thread title. I'm surprised bapu even stopped by to read it.
I'm still using 8.5, and right up until my audio interface bit the dust, music was still coming out of it. 8.5, that is. Anything bad that comes out is my own fault. If I thought X3 would make better music come out, I'd snag it in a minute, credit-card balance be damned. But as long as 8.5 keeps doing what I tell it to do, and stays out of the way, I see no reason to upgrade.
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/22 17:49:24
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Dave,
Noble position to take.
I know of at least three people I collaborate with that are still on 8.x. Doesn't even cause a blip on the radar (except that Juan guy that can only take a .cwb @ 48/44/1 due to his interface limitations, he knows who he is).
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/22 18:51:49
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If you think you need it, buy it.
I don't see much of a need myself.
I don't like ProChannel or it's add ons. I prefer the sonitus EQ to anything in PC.
The only compelling reason for me to get X3 would be if I didn't have Melodyne.
I got X1 and I think X2. (I forget).
- What can it do better than 8.5? nothing.
- what does it screw up that I have in 8.5? lots.
I think X3 is targeted at those that don't have all the extra software toys that go with making music these days.
If you don't have that stuff independently then maybe it's a good buy. I would say buy the quality extras you need instead and stick with 8.5. But then, time goes by, and with it any upgrade curves and falling out of the loop per se.
Just some random incomprehensible thoughts.
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/22 19:27:52
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☄ Helpfulby CTStump 2014/02/23 01:12:27
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/23 01:14:53
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craigb
He sounds stumped...
Punny!
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/23 02:09:12
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We upgrade-refuseniks think we've beaten the system, but just wait...ST3 will only install on Windows 10, but SONAR 8.x won't even run on it. Plus you're gonna need 128GB just to check your email.
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/23 02:52:10
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/02/23 03:49:51
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Dave,
Noble position to take.
I know of at least three people I collaborate with that are still on 8.x. Doesn't even cause a blip on the radar (except that Juan guy that can only take a .cwb @ 48/44/1 due to his interface limitations, he knows who he is).
Is that me? I don't know who I am...
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/23 03:51:16
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bapu
Dave,
Noble position to take.
I know of at least three people I collaborate with that are still on 8.x. Doesn't even cause a blip on the radar (except that Juan guy that can only take a .cwb @ 48/44/1 due to his interface limitations, he knows who he is).
Is that me? I don't know who I am...
Glad to help out.
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/23 10:23:17
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I got X3a in December for $29. That was $49 - a $20 coupon.
I got it mainly as future-proofing; my XP music machine is now 9 years old and it could bite the dust at any time... and $29 was a steal, I think.
I haven't worked with it a lot, yet, because my Win 7 box has no audio interface, just the RealTek. Everything I've done with it so far has worked.
I'll miss the keyboard shortcuts when working in Staff view when the time comes, though.
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/23 12:25:28
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"Serious Problem" ?? Well it can't be the cost. I've been updating Cakes software for over twenty years and it doesn't touch $1,500.00 which means it's been the cheapest part about it. Since you have no music posted it leaves one to assume you don't record yourself so you must record others and for whatever reason don't post results. ( now if you do record yourself and it's not worth sharing/posting and you don't record others then buying software doesn't matter at all...use what you have until your computer melts down) So, maybe for some reason then you are thinking X3 may have features that will help you record others and attract more business. So the question is not if X3 is good software- because it is-the question is do you have the computer to handle it. So it's not the cost ( and if it is...geeze, you have bigger problems) It's not the program. X3 is killer and most everybody knows that...even the competition unless they're asleep at the wheel. It's only your computer in question and that's easy- get the trial version and try it out. "Serious Problem" solved.
post edited by spacey - 2014/02/23 12:27:35
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/23 16:08:30
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Yep. Upgrading SONAR isn't why I'm still on Producer v4. It's the cost of the new machine that's required to run the newer versions. I can still get acceptable results on an 11 year-old dual-server box running 1.7Ghz with Producer v4.
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/23 17:22:21
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since i upgraded to X3, all of my music is serious, and very HIGHBROW
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/24 10:53:00
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Just letting you all know, My computer needs to upgrade first, oh and thanks for the info.
i Am serious about that.
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/24 10:58:02
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Step 1) Upgrade your PC
Step 2) Upgrade to X3
Step 3) Use both for 2X the fun
Step 4) Don't listen to me, I'm still on X2
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/24 11:02:29
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no upgrade for the Beagle. I have X2 and most of them prior back to Sonar 4 Producer and including a few Music Creators and at least one Home Studio.
I've stopped and the only way I'll have X3 will be if they decide to give it to me for free.
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/24 13:42:58
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Beagle
no upgrade for the Beagle. I have X2 and most of them prior back to Sonar 4 Producer and including a few Music Creators and at least one Home Studio.
I've stopped and the only way I'll have X3 will be if they decide to give it to me for free with becan.
John would not approve, but I bet Beagle would! 
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/24 16:44:34
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Mesh
Step 1) Upgrade your PC
Step 2) Upgrade to X3
Step 3) Use both for 2X the fun
Step 4) Don't listen to me, I'm still on X2
for (year = now; year <= rest_of_your_life; year++)
{
UpgradePC();
UpgradeDAW();
ReplaceObsoletePlugins();
if (rand() == 0.001) MakeMusic();
};
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Re: Having serious problem trying to make a decision about Sonar X3
2014/02/24 16:55:36
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Beagle
no upgrade for the Beagle. I have X2 and most of them prior back to Sonar 4 Producer and including a few Music Creators and at least one Home Studio.
I've stopped and the only way I'll have X3 will be if they decide to give it to me for free with becan.
John would not approve, but I bet Beagle would!
duh.
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