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"Headin' for the Weeds"


"Headin' for the Weeds"


hard rock, aggressive driving rhythm, anti war rant, written in '05, recorded in nov. 2011.

http://soundcloud.com/bat...8-headin-for-the-weeds


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    chasmcg
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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/06 19:54:28 (permalink)
    Great song. Very well put together. Thought the drums might come up a little.
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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/07 10:15:55 (permalink)
    It really kicks!  Guitars are great.  Love the break before the solo and the solo.  Vocals are super. 

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/07 10:31:53 (permalink)
    Excellent song all the way around.  Very well performed, and consistent with your other songs.  This should be a shining light for anyone considering Sonar.

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/10 14:53:29 (permalink)

    chasmcg
    thanks for listening!
    drums, yeah, folks always want the drums just slamming. me too!


    i think if you listen to it at the volume i mixed it (just under 85 db) you'll see that the drums are well represented.

    it's hard, to get that magic mix level, where everything sits just right.
    still working on it.

    this drum track was created in Sony Acid, and i could not remix any part of it, as i only had a stereo file to work with.
    as it is, i hit it with some creative eq and multiband compression, and got a lot more out of it than the plain jane stereo file had to offer....

    but i could not bring the drums up any further, without creating some masking effects, so i put it where it is.

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/10 14:59:29 (permalink)


    rimshot
    thanks for jammin with me...
    the breakdown! with that cool tom fill section...yeah, i dig it.
    appreciate the listen.

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/10 15:01:04 (permalink)


    Lynn
    thanks lynn, and yes, sonar makes tracking pretty easy, that's true.
    just hit the red button.


    i use sonar pretty much like a tape machine....
    once i get levels set right, i can really run with this thing.

    i'll even do punchins, instead of comps.
    i NEVER do comps. i'd rather capture one good performance, than build a track from a bunch of different passes.
    old school, that way........

    if i don't like something, i just play it back, cue it up, start playing along, and reach over and hit the RED button (R on the keyboard) and go to town.
    just like a tape machine.
    it's pretty cool.


    probably the only thing i do in sonar, that's really 'modern', is the panning and volume envelopes for mixing.
    i love being able to do a mix (with automation), save it and walk away from it, and later make tweaks to the envelopes as i hear it in new ways.
    i'll do this a half dozen times before i consider it 'mixed'.

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/10 15:58:31 (permalink)
    Rocking the Studio here, the drums sound fine here, considering your starting point.

    As for the rest smoking

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/10 18:07:47 (permalink)
    Nice work! I love all the different flavors and those really nice OOOs. I have to agree about the drums. It's hard to get them right but I think just 1db or 2 should do.


    Really nice work!

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/10 20:33:34 (permalink)
    wow well done great song arrangement mixed excellent thanks for shareing  eric
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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/10 21:58:10 (permalink)
    Great tune! it ROCKS!

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/11 03:11:02 (permalink)
    Always quality from you.

    Reminds me of an OZ band called SkyHooks.

    Great Job, sounds good too.

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/11 09:04:54 (permalink)
    Great production. I love the guitar tone and riffs, and i have no problems with the drum volume, i think it's just fine, but that's me. The solo's really superb though, and the vocals are spot on too, very nice. But I don't know how to evaluate the structure and composition of the song.

    Although i do want more of your power belting vocals.


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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/12 16:56:35 (permalink)

    wookie
    thanks man, for rockin the studio.
     

    guitarpima
    appreciate the comments, thanks for listening.
     

    eric paul
    thanks eric, your welcome


    quantum
    nice man!! thanks for rocking with me.
    now, turn it up some more........


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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/12 16:57:55 (permalink)

    benMMustech
    alright NEB!
    LOL
    thanks man...
    you know, i'm old enough to have seen the SKYHOOKS< 
    they played at the jacksonville coliseum, opening for somebody i can't remember...
    i always dug that guitar players style too, the guy that wore the face makeup/mime thing....
    silly look, but he was tasty!

     

    severed
    appreciate the comments man, really.

    structure and composition..... evaluation....
    hm.

    well, first off, it's just the way i write.
    and i'm not following any formulas, and don't care about any particular genre, so i guess i'm just going for what i like.

    i DO want to avoid cliches, if possible (by now, everything under the sun has been done)
    and i'm trying to avoid strict genres, or anything else that would lock me into the proverbial cubby hole.

    so if i did all that on this one, then i nailed what i wanted.

    thanks again!

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/12 22:43:17 (permalink)
    Would you please one time post something that doesn't kick ass so we know you are at least human?

    What can I say?, this is cool on so many levels, arrangement, execution, mix, vocals.   Who are you and when did you arrive on earth?  The guitar work is not only hot, it's melodic and makes sense in the context of the song.

    Smokin!  

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/13 11:43:00 (permalink)
    Hi BB, great stuff, needs more guitar though, .................just kidding ; )

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/13 12:00:29 (permalink)
    Excellent. The mix to my ears is spot on.
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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/13 12:41:06 (permalink)
    Love that harmonized guitar squeal at 2:43.

    You always capture such killer tones. Impressive stuff.

    But I think the guitars dominate just a hair too much...I know if that was my axe-weilding I would put them even more front and center than you do! 

    I listened to it around 85db and the drums were still too far back.
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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/13 20:46:35 (permalink)
    Ah! A sweet rock ballad with eclectic textures of Yes, and some 70's and '80's diversions.  That makes this extremely inviting compared to your former emulations.  There are a lot of great textures, tones, styles, etc. magically weaving.

    1:34 is a magical diversion.

    Genius as usual!  I don't understand the title, TBH,

    Guitars sing sweetly as the song progresses.

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/14 14:55:30 (permalink)
    KILLER tune/performace/mix!

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/16 12:32:56 (permalink)

    DARYL
    heheh, thanks man, made me laugh...
    actually, i'm not on earth.
    i have high speed everynet, here on Klaatu-Land.


    morenoise
    thanks rik, more guitar, CHECK! LOL

     
    daryl1968
    thanks for listening, glad the mix is translating on your system.
    that's the goal

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/16 12:47:14 (permalink)

    jamesyoyo
    guitar squeals.
    LOL
    they're kinda cheesy, and at the same time, fulfilling.
    heheh
    like cheese whiz.
    that's actually not a squeal...

    it's a two part harmony bend.
    just a straight up bend.

    the solos are all DI thru a Palmer PDI-09, straight off the speaker feed on the boogie.

    and well, this song IS a guitar heavy song, it's just one of those mix decisions i guess i fell into, after a dozen mix sessions, and back and forth and what not.
    i know a lot of guys wanted to hear the drums louder...
    but the mix landed where it did, as i heard it wanting the guitars to be the meat of the sound.
    other songs on the album, featured more drum....
    so part of that decision, was how it all played out with the other songs on the album.
     i mixed the entire project, with a continuous listen in mind. old school hope, that someone would actually listen from beginning to end, and get the overall vibe, instead of just having one song tell only part of the story.
    \

    thanks for the comments, i appreciate it.
    still trying to dial things in....

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/16 12:55:48 (permalink)

    philip
    hey, i appreciate your comments!


    hehe, but  i don't know how to take the term 'emulations'.
    maybe i understand what your meaning is....
    but i never try to emulate anybody else, i'm really looking for a unique thing here.

    but folks often mention YES, i guess it's just a certain timbre of my voice? don't know, but i'd never compare my singing with jon andersons', he's just too good.

    the title, 'headin' for the weeds', it's part of a colloquialism i grew up with....
    could apply to golf, when hitting into the rough... could apply to a mix going wrong.... idea is, you're running off the track, losing direction, losing control, going in the rough, into the ditch, 'headin' for the weeds'.......

    i'm glad i could magically divert you.
    heheheh

    LYRIC:


    Headin' for the Weeds
     
    and if you think about it
    the guy that leads, is headin' for the weeds
    and he's got zero vision...
    it's just the stuff, they're putting in his feed.
     
    another year has gone by
    it just became a faded memory
    like the ones before it
    til they're home, we simply will not see.


    i can't remove myself, from the controversy.
     
    how long does the aggravation
    take to fade, and the men go free
    from their sworn duty,
    put in harm's way, for the east to see?


    and if you think about it
    the guy that leads, is headin' for the weeds
    he's got zero vision...
    it's just the stuff, they're putting in the feed.


    tell me when it's going to end
    tell me.... will you be my friend
    tell me when it's going to end.




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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/16 12:56:51 (permalink)
    drumstixkev
    thanks for listening and commenting!

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/21 19:29:48 (permalink)
    great work... You really have your own sound going on here... very recognisable... excellent performances & production...  well done...
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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/21 21:44:02 (permalink)

    Sounds cool ! Are you smoking or weed wacking weeds ! LOL

    This tune sounds super charged to me , nice mix its really rocks !

    Radio

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/21 23:43:58 (permalink)
    Outstanding song and performance.

    The mix is a bit lifeless. There is a lot missing from the high end. Not sure if fixing that would clean up the middle, or if that needs looking at too.

    I am not sure I have ever been this critical of your mixes Bat. I recall them usually being outstanding so I am surprised to find myself saying this.

    Cheers
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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/23 10:40:30 (permalink)

    HEY GUYS!
    thanks for reviving this thread, i thought it was long gone....


    notnat
    appreciate the comments...
    i'm definitly trying to craft some unique sound, it's taken a long time to get it there.
     
     
    radio
    hehe.... whacking weeds, smoking weeds, it's all the same..
    getting rid of weed.
    LOL

    glad you like this one
     

     
    folwolfen
    hey shad, thanks for your candor about the mix...
    i mean, i completely disagree!
    heheh 
    but, everybody hears things differently...

    the sonic fingerprint of this particular mix (missing high end) was intentional, a loud 'high end' would be harsh on this particular one,
    mostly because of my choice of crunchy guitars and arrangement....
    a lot of syncopation, and with more high end, it all gets a bit nervous and disjointed...
    i wanted to the listener to focus on the 'groove' and the lyric, and the voices sounded exactly the way i wanted them.

    so i focused on the hi hat sound, as a 'high end marker', and left everything else more smooth sounding, except for the vocals......

    this song works best extremely loud.
    then, to me, it all makes sense.

    but even really loud, it sounds smooth.
    that was the sound i was going for.
    it IS different sounding, on the album, from the song that is in front of it, and behind it....
    which was the reason for the style of mix on this one...

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    Re:"Headin' for the Weeds" 2012/04/24 15:05:39 (permalink)
    i got to thinkin' about foxwolfen's post.....


    i did a quick EQ analysis on the 'Weeds' song....... looking at the high end.....





    any ideas?

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