Headphone Out Control

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2011/07/09 17:32:29 (permalink)

Headphone Out Control

Just purchased the V-Studio 100.  A big part of the reason I purchased it was because I thought the Monitor/Mute button was going to mute my monitors, and that I could control my headphone out separately.
 
To my frustration, I've figured out that the Monitor/Mute has a completely different function than I thought.  And the headphone out “delivers the same signal as the MAIN output.”  (manual p. 14).
 
Anyone have any ideas for a work around for this?
 
Honestly, I don’t understand the thinking on this.  Why the heck would I want my headphone out to be simultaneously controlled by the main out?  Maybe there’s a good reason for this in some context I can’t think of, but this would have been a deal killer had I known before I bought it.  Seems like really huge oversight/design flaw to me.
 
Anyway, I’m super disappointed.
post edited by barthowk - 2011/07/09 17:35:13
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    SurfingMusicMan
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    Re:Headphone Out Control 2011/07/09 17:59:37 (permalink)
    I have a separate headphone amp and figured out a work around.  I added a bus send to outputs 3 & 4 on the final mix bus of my Sonar project and plugged my headphone amp into hardware outputs 3 & 4 on the V-Studio 100.  This works, but it's really lame that I can't use the headphone out on my V-Studio 100.
     
    Doesn't anyone else think this is crazy?  Am I missing something here?
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    Re:Headphone Out Control 2011/07/10 07:39:20 (permalink)
    Hi Barthowk.In total agreement with you.I was disappointed too when I found out I had to physically switch my monitor speakers off every time I went to headphone monitoring.
    Another member posted a solution to this elsewhere on the forum:

    Plug your monitors into outputs 3-4 on the VS100.

    Enable both the 1-2 and 3-4 output pairs on your computer (sonar).

    Have both outputs enabled in your project.

    Create a bus that everything gets routed to that goes to outputs 1-2 (this will be for your headphones).

    Create a send on that bus that goes to outputs 3-4 (the monitors).

    Now you can use sonar to adjust the volume of the monitors independent of the headphones and you can mute the monitors without muting the headphones too.
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    Re:Headphone Out Control 2011/07/10 08:26:15 (permalink)
    Although almost every hardware console works exactly the same way as the V-Studio (headphone is tied to main outs) it seems Roland/Cake missed a great opportunity here.

    The biggest weekness I have found in the VS-100 is it's internal routing. With a software based system like this - surely they can create a firmware update that allows some internal routing. I would love the ability to send which outputs (1-2, 3-4, 5-6) I choose to the Headphone out.

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    Re:Headphone Out Control 2011/07/10 11:53:49 (permalink)
    lampoonland:  Yes, that's very similar to what I did, except I kind of did it opposite.  I'm leaving outputs 1 & 2 going to my monitors, and am sending outputs 3 & 4 to my external headphone amp.  It's just really lame that I don't get tactile control over everything and have to resort to the software.  One of the reasons I purchased this unit was for the tactile control.
     
    codamedia:  I agree.  That's one of the things I tried to do as well - send outputs 3 & 4 to the headphone out.  It's really suprising Roland didn't make that an option.
    post edited by barthowk - 2011/07/10 11:57:10
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