yodermr
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Help, Converters said 96khz, Sonar said 44.1khz... now I can't seem to export
at the correct recorded speed
In Sonar sounds fine, Exported sounds half speed
Any thoughts how to rectify?
Thx
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Re: Help, Converters said 96khz, Sonar said 44.1khz... now I can't seem to export
2017/09/07 08:07:20
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Try to explain how you were trying to export the file(s) Your description is a bit cryptic.
1. What do you mean when you say "converters?" What converter said 96kHz? What sample rate are you exporting at?
2. How are you trying to play the exported wave files?
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Re: Help, Converters said 96khz, Sonar said 44.1khz... now I can't seem to export
2017/09/07 09:00:19
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So if you mean that some external wave player renders the exported wave file at half speed, then it is because the headers of the wave file say that it is at 48 K samples per second but the data is actually 96K. How you got there is a bit of a mystery, but a simple solution is to change the wave header to the correct sample rate. That can be done with a hex editor, but there are simple utilities that will do it easily. http://www.railjonrogut.com/HeaderInvestigator.htm
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Re: Help, Converters said 96khz, Sonar said 44.1khz... now I can't seem to export
2017/09/07 10:40:02
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This is very strange, because SONAR exports always with correct headers.
It would be important to know which samplerate your project is -> its shown in the transport module.
But it does no matter if you export with 44, 48, 96kHz. The exported wavefiles from SONAR have always the right pitch and the right header.
This is very mysterious.
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Re: Help, Converters said 96khz, Sonar said 44.1khz... now I can't seem to export
2017/09/07 12:08:53
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Restart your computer and don't open sonar and listen to your file.
I'm guessing two apps are warring over your interface sample-rate.
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THambrecht
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Re: Help, Converters said 96khz, Sonar said 44.1khz... now I can't seem to export
2017/09/07 12:22:18
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By the way I had a similar case.
As I opened a project with 96kHz 24-Bit all videos from youtube played double-speed like micky mouse.
This is up to your audiointerface.
As gswitz says: Restart your computer.
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yodermr
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Re: Help, Converters said 96khz, Sonar said 44.1khz... now I can't seem to export
2017/09/07 13:25:41
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Apologies, let me expand on the issue.
I didn't notice when I recorded the tracks. My hardware converters were set at 96khz (rate locked). Sonar was set at 44.1khz. Played in Sonar everything sounds fine. Exporting to MP3 and playing on Windows Media Player is sounds like half speed. I sent the files to the client, they first noticed on their system that sounds like half speed so I don't think restarting my computer is gonna fix that.
Slartabartfast, thank you for the fixer tool. That looks like it could fix the exported file to the correct 96kz... but ... I need to get the client files at 44.1khz.
Anyway to fix the Sonar file so I can move forward?
I suppose I could take the exported file, change the header and reimport into a Sonar file with the correct khz?
Any easier thoughts appreciated
Mark
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Re: Help, Converters said 96khz, Sonar said 44.1khz... now I can't seem to export
2017/09/07 15:39:34
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This is very very strange.
When SONAR loads audiofiles it sets itself to the curent samplerate of this files. You can even convert the files outside SONAR to new samplerates and SONAR follows them by opening the project.
I would look in the audiofolder and play one of the recorded files with the mediaplayer. Does it sound right?
First of all it has to be clarified what SONAR has recorded. Right-click the audiofiles for properties. 4608 kBit/s means 96kHz.
And don't lock your samplerate. Maybe then your audiofile is incorrectly played again. If the samplerate is locked to 96kHz you cannot play 44kHz !! Or try an other computer for playing.
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Re: Help, Converters said 96khz, Sonar said 44.1khz... now I can't seem to export
2017/09/07 15:49:32
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I think the problem starts with why would you set your hardware to a different rate than Sonar? That's bound to make a mess of things somehow.
If your interface is set at 96 then set Sonar at 96.
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yodermr
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Re: Help, Converters said 96khz, Sonar said 44.1khz... now I can't seem to export
2017/09/07 19:18:55
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So, yes this was obviously a mistake, or possibly glitch as I set my sonar files and hardware converter both to 96khz and for some reason I see this one is now 44.1. The reason I rate lock the converter is that I would get drop outs... when I use rate lock it stops drop outs. Runs stable for hour + continuous recording, for over a year without a drop out since I started using rate lock. And also at some sonar upgrade point, sonar stopped automatically switching to the correct sample rate (This was before I started using rate lock)
THam... I'll check out the individual audio files
Other ideas?
Thx
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slartabartfast
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Re: Help, Converters said 96khz, Sonar said 44.1khz... now I can't seem to export
2017/09/07 20:18:34
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yodermr
I suppose I could take the exported file, change the header and reimport into a Sonar file with the correct khz?
If you set up a new SONAR project to 48K and import your file with the repaired header (now reading 96K) SONAR should automatically do a conversion of the 96K file to 48 K to match the project sample rate. You should then be able to export that file at 48K. Or you or your client could use something like R8Brain to do the 96K to 48K conversion. http://www.voxengo.com/product/r8brain/ The trick is that the wave file with the incorrect header must be fixed prior to resampling or you will just get a new 48K file that plays at half speed.
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Re: Help, Converters said 96khz, Sonar said 44.1khz... now I can't seem to export
2017/09/07 20:21:01
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Since the file plays too slowly, you could use Craig Anderton methods to shorten the file proportionately and then export.
So bounce internally, shorten (reverse stretch) the stereo clip by the correct percentage... export.
Wait... this will increase pitch?
Play it into a new daw maybe?
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yodermr
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Re: Help, Converters said 96khz, Sonar said 44.1khz... now I can't seem to export
2017/09/08 22:42:16
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Thank you for the help everyone... All fixed. Changed the audio file headers, reimported into a clean sonar file
M
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