Help With Converting Midi to Audio

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2013/01/01 02:41:40 (permalink)

Help With Converting Midi to Audio

I've recorded audio for quite some time and even done a few songs here and there with midi in the past. However, I've written a piece of music that is all midi. I used several soft synths in the creation of the song and can hear the sound just fine. However, when I performed my normal mixdown procedure and exported the audio, I ended up with a monster-sized file that is unmanageable. I want to convert the midi to audio. Reading through both the manual and several threads here in the user's forum, I see I need to have a soft synth inserted. Since I recorded the track using a soft synth I assume I have one inserted. Is this correct? I've tried using the "Bounce to Tracks" dialogue but when I do the bounce I end up with a new track with no audio rendered on it. In the "Bounce to Tracks" dialogue box, I've set my "Destination" as "New Track (17"). (17 being the number of the new track created). I'm using no preset. For the "Source Category", I'm choosing "Tracks" and also choosing the track number corresponding to the midi track I want to bounce from the "Source Buses/Tracks" box. (In this case Track 2 and it shows I'm using Cakewalk Sound Center as the source). "Dithering" is set to "Triangular". All the "Mix Enables" are set except for "Audible Bounce" and "Live Input". I then hit okay and I can see the progress of the bounce. A new track is created on track 17 but rather than being populated with waveforms I see only a long, uninterrupted line that extends the length of the song. If I mute the original MIDI track, I hear no sound. What am I doing wrong? Any help would be greatly appreciated. David

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    Jeff M.
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    Re:Help With Converting Midi to Audio 2013/01/01 03:19:15 (permalink)
    Easiest way I do it:
    Put the MIDI track under the Synth Out track (icon is the midi plug + keyboard).
    Click/hold on the Synth Out track number (highlights in blue)
    Drag down over the MIDI track number, both should now be highlighted.

    Head north to the view/options/tracks/clips/midi/V-Vocal - click the dropdown on Tracks.
    Click Bounce to Tracks
    I keep entire mix since it's only that track - track only (sometimes) gets that 1-line like you're seeing, so I just go with entire mix.
    Prob a reason for that, but I just go with entire mix

    Oh, and I rename the track to whatever the MIDI track was 



    post edited by Jeff M. - 2013/01/01 03:33:54

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    Re:Help With Converting Midi to Audio 2013/01/01 09:50:37 (permalink)

    However, when I performed my normal mixdown procedure and exported the audio, I ended up with a monster-sized file that is unmanageable.



    What is unmanageable? 

    A 44.1KHz WAV file is typically 10MB per minute of recording. So if it's a 5 minute piece, the WAV file should be about 50MB. It doesn't make any difference whether you have 1 track or 200 tracks. Perhaps you have some MIDI data far out in the track which is making Sonar think the piece is longer and it's exporting a lot of silence or you are exporting to a format other than a 44.1KHz WAV file.


    Also, if you are using all MIDI and softsynth tracks, there is no need to Bounce to Tracks. When you export, Sonar will take care of that for you. 

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    Re:Help With Converting Midi to Audio 2013/01/01 11:28:55 (permalink)
    Yea, if your average mixdown is 50Mb's and that  that is the norm, give or take 10Mb's or so, you can have 10,500 songs on a 500gig hard drive. That is totally imaginable and its even reality and fact

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    Re:Help With Converting Midi to Audio 2013/01/01 13:53:37 (permalink)
    Unmanageable in this case is a little over a gigabyte for a 3:48 second piece. Typically I'm in the range you guys are talking about - about 50mb or so for a piece that size. So that answers one question I had. The file shouldn't be anywhere near that size. I wasn't sure since I'd never recorded a song composed entirely of MIDI data before. I'll go over it with a fine-tooth comb and update later today. Thanks for your help everyone. I certainly appreciate it!

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    Re:Help With Converting Midi to Audio 2013/01/01 14:08:32 (permalink)
    It does not matter whether the tracks start out as audio or MIDI, the final exported audio is no different in size so for CD quality it would about 10MB a minute.
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