seanmichaelrobinson
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Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
Hello all! Up until 2 years ago I still hadn't upgraded from Sonar 8.something, and I was still using the 32-bit engine, which meant I could avail myself to one of the most useful plugins I've ever used. And boy howdy, did I use it on virtually every mix. DSP-FX Delay.  There's no pointless complexity, only Delay in MS, with a slider, and with as little feedback as you want. Seconds to add and set up so that you can then manipulate the delay any way you want to after the fact. Having now mixed two albums with the 64 bit engine, which doesn't allow DSP-FX Delay anymore, I STILL haven't found an adequate replacement that's as simple and as easy to use in a stripped-down and flexible manner. Sonitus:delay is the closest I've gotten, and even that still involves lots of button-pushing and awkward work-around until it'll function as simply as it can be. So--is there an alternative out there? Some other plugin that literally only presents you with MS of delay and a pan knob? I would be much obliged to your collective expertise. And a good weekend to you all, Sean
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/08 01:41:50
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seanmichaelrobinson
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/08 04:02:32
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Hey Jim, thanks for the suggestion! I guess I assumed that if Cakewalk's native bridge application didn't support their (previously) native plugin, it would be dead in any bridge app. But I'll certainly give the demo a spin and see if it'll fly. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/08 04:08:36
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The is no bridge available for DX plug-ins. There is an old DX-to-VST wrapper but using it to wrap 32bit DX plug-ins like the DSP-FX series then loading them in a bridge is not a good idea.
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/08 07:53:24
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Have you tried the Sonitus Delay? I believe it is dx, but it is 64bit and works fine...
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/08 10:37:22
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/08 11:00:33
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☄ Helpfulby Starise 2018/09/08 11:02:56
I know a lot of people who get in to a system and use those older plug ins. They cant live with out them.
But trust me on this one, older plug ins can hold you back from opening your true sonic potential.
Not to mention cause issues with DAW stability (crashes, drop outs).
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/08 12:08:37
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When you find a suitable delay plugin, try to find one that has both 32bit & 64bit versions. That way you can swap round to the new plugin in Sonar 8, save it, and load it in CbB. CbB should then use the 64 bit version of the plugin. As pwalpal says, there's loads of free ones out there. Checkout this for some more: http://www.vst4free.com/index.php?plug-ins=Delay/Echo&l=0
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/08 12:58:23
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Not sure what version of Sonar or CbB you're using, but isn't there a style dial for this, or is that just reverb. I can't remember...
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seanmichaelrobinson
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/08 15:00:46
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Hey Leadfoot-- just a "space" styledial--some type of reverb.
msmcleod and pwalpal-- thanks for the links. I guess I need to just roll up my sleeves and start digging. Most of these at first glance look like the typical bogged-down, feature-laden delay plugs. Really looking for something so simple it's painful. Delay only, not tempo-linked (since I never work with clicks), option for feedback. Will see if one of these will swing it.
chucklebaby--
>>older plug ins can hold you back from opening your true sonic potential.>>
Well, it's a delay. There's no issue with sound quality. Any digital audio system is capable of delaying a signal perfectly. It just happens that people tend to clutter this particular type of plugin with gobs and gobs of features, expecting that the user wants a firetruck, when sometimes, all you want is a hose. Ya know?
There are times when you just want a plugin to behave like a tool. More like a hammer. I want to nail this thing, where's my hammer? (As opposed to, which of these seventeen pneumatic auto-hammer apparati will drive this nail with the least aliasing. or whatever :) )
Thanks for the thoughts.
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/08 19:33:04
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I found a very basic Magix delay plug on my PC that is essentially just a dialog box with three sliders (dry out, delay out, and delay time). More basic than the Sonitus FX. I think maybe it came bundled with Vegas or Magix Music Maker or some such, but have never really used it.
It's called Simple Delay, from the XFX-1 Plug-In Pack, v1.1 (Copyright 2017 Magix Software GmbH).
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/08 23:55:22
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☄ Helpfulby seanmichaelrobinson 2018/09/09 00:36:37
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seanmichaelrobinson
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/09 00:37:04
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Blades-- you're the man! Wonderful, that's exactly what I'm looking for! Thanks so much. I really appreciate it!
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Blades
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/09 00:42:14
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I've read good things about the whole list of freebies there. They are gui simple but supposedly work well, are simple, and are fair on cpu.
Glad it helped.
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Blades
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/09 02:50:28
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Yeah. Down southeast, near Atlanta, but I can fake a decent English accent if that's worth anything! ;)
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/09 05:36:18
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Blades
Yeah. Down southeast, near Atlanta, but I can fake a decent English accent if that's worth anything! ;)
You'd have to do Sean Bean to get Sheffield.
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Re: Help finding dirt-simple no-parameter DELAY Vst!
2018/09/09 14:23:10
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Blades
Look at dead Duck. There is a stereo and mono one on this page. You said simple but have shown one with multiple voices. The ones on this page are single tap. Hope this helps..
http://deadducksoftware.b...ffects-bundle.html?m=1
Oh yeah, The Dead Duck package, basically one each of everything, and they are good stuff, too. Forever the answer to "where can I find a good, basic you-name-it?" I've been meaning to sit down and start a mix using no FX other than Dead Duck VST's and see what I can do.
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