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2013/02/10 13:27:31 (permalink)

Help!!

I know this is a repeat but I didn't get answers before cuz I wasn't explaining my problem right. But now I'll use pictures. 
EDIT-ok so the godam pictures wont cooperate. heres a link instead
https://www.google.ca/sea...B411   
 (FL STUDIO)

What is the SONAR X2 equivalent do doing that?

An what's the equivalent of the sounds in the left sidebar? the ones that you would drag into the step sequencer?

https://www.google.ca/sea...UqJc76Rv9I%3B320%3B180
  
In other words, I'd like to just open up a single sound file and use it with my step sequencer rather than "play it" with say Session Drummer (cuz I have a lot of good hip hop drum  sounds I collected, and the version of sonar that I want to buy doesn't have many drums)
Btw those sounds I said I had are NOT recording of ME. Like I said they're like the sounds on the left sidebar of FL Studio

post edited by Evnabby - 2013/02/10 13:44:59
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    Re:Help!! 2013/02/10 14:18:39 (permalink)
    I get the Fl Studio page of screenshots.  Please explain what you are trying to do?

    If you want to import a sound file or clipand use that in your track, you can use the browser.  Or file>import and navigate to where you have all these wonderful hip hop durms stored.  then use the typical PC method to important to the track you want to place it on.  Then use the copy and paste (or special paste if you want to bring in more than one sound file/clip).

    But as I recall, most FLS "sounds" are samples fired from their standard sampler via the step sequencer,  not actual raw samples (audio files) dropped into an audio track.  Two differnet ways to accomplish the same thing.

    By the way, you can import samples into Session Drummer to expand the palate.  You would actually have to learn to do that, however.

    If you are coming from FLS to a linear DAW there is a learning curve.  FLS is a good program, but seems simple since it starts w/ building 4-8 bars in a step sequencer .  It took me years before I figured out I didn't have to make long 12 bar sequences or rewrite each 4 bar part to add, toms over the basic snare/kick loop.

    Hope this helps.

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    Re:Help!! 2013/02/10 14:31:14 (permalink)
    But it IS possible to get the "sounds" in right? I just need to know, so I can buy X2 Essentials. I can learn it later. The trial is not working for me in terms of m learning
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    Re:Help!! 2013/02/10 17:04:00 (permalink)
    One last time.

    What sound? What are you talking about?  We need to get the terminology down first.

    You asked what a sample was in another thread.  A sample is a piece recording.  It can be a single sound, like a kick or a moog note, or a whole bar of kick and snare, or a complete rhythm section doing 4 bars.  These are all samples.  In SONAR you can "import" a sample exampled above and insert it in the timeline.  FLS's timeline used to be the plasma-sytle view tho it might have changed.  SONAR (and most linear DAWs) have tracks, running left to right, that shows audio or midi notes as they appear in time.  You can import a single kick note and use copy and paste to put as many wherever you like.  It will even line them up for you.  So yes, SONAR X2 Essentials will get the sounds in right using that method.

    A sampler is a digital synth (either hard or software) that imports that sample (say, a kick) and allows you to play it from a keyboard.  In SONAR and FLS you can record those notes you play, or you can use a step sequencer to write those same notes.  As I recall FLS (I haven't really used it in years) defaults to a drum sampling machine.  The program comes up, and when you click on a pad it fires the sampler which plays the kick.  It is all set up from the beginning.  SONAR defaults to midi and audio realtime recording.  To use a sampler like Session Drummer you have to insert it into a project.  You then have to open the step sequencer, which looks a lot like FLS main page.  You can then click a pad just like FLS.  So yes, SONAR will get the sounds right, tho it takes a few extra steps to get going. But you can save that project or template so you only have to do it once.

    If you want to use your hiphop samples in Session drummer you have to change the samples assigned to pads.  I havent done it, but it should be fairly straight forward.  drag and drop, I think.  So yes, Session drummer can get the sounds in right.

    If you just want to do beats it is hard to beat FLS.  That is what it is designed for.  If you want to record an acoustic signal - say, like vocals, you have to go through hoops for that.  It can be done, but it is not the best tool for that job.  Sonar or any linear (not step sequencer-based) recorder will do that job better.

    Sonar will do what you want, tho it won't do beats as easily out of the box as FLS.  another option is to rewire FLS into SONAR, giving you the best of both worlds.

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    Re:Help!! 2013/02/10 20:03:44 (permalink)
    KK thanks I finally got it. Although rewiring will mean more confusion but I wont ask about that. 
    Ty for ur time. 
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    Re:Help!! 2013/02/10 20:13:48 (permalink)
    Evnabby,

    no prob.  It is confusing.  You've got about 20+ years of digital technology to cram in.  Just keep asking questions.  The SONAR forum is pretty good for getting answers.  But a lot of begginer questions require all kinds of basic explanations.

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