Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums

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Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums

I'm having some trouble understanding what exactly is included in SONAR Platinum's version of Addictive Drums 2. I've read in some places that it comes with your choice of 3 ADPaks (e.g. Metal, Indie, Reel Machines), and I've also read in some places that it already comes with Studio Rock, Studio Pop, and Studio Prog. Which one is correct? Do you get these 3 studio paks, as well as 3 additional ADPaks? Is it one or the other?
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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 12:47:49 (permalink)
    You get to choose 3 ADPaks. When AD2 first came to Sonar, you were given the 3 studio kits automatically with no choices.
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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 12:55:51 (permalink)
    Hello,
    I had the same question to XLN when I was having error messages. I had also upgraded earlier and when I  up graded I guess I must have gotten the extra paks then. So when I upgraded to Splat I already had my extra paks. I'm thinking that they gave me all the studio paks. I think that because I had the first Pak they just finished off the two other paks in the set along with the extra Pak I chose. I wish I could have chosen other paks so I could have a wider variety of styles and sounds. But, what's done is done. I'll have to demo others and then put out more dough to get something else. Good marketing on their part I guess. Hope this helps. You can always shoot a message to them to get a clearer response. It takes a couple of days since they're in Stockholm Sweden. They will respond. That's a plus.
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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 13:01:04 (permalink)
    The studio kits were part of the original Addictive Drums. With AD2 all the kits including the studio kits from the original AD are separate purchases. Platinum includes a voucher for 3 kits, 3 midi packs and 3 kit pieces of your choice. The only restriction I know of, is the studio kits cannot be added to AD2 if the user already has the original Addictive Drums. In this case, the only way to get the studio kits is to purchase the upgrade from AD to AD2.
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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 14:06:23 (permalink)
    The studio kits that were offered in AD (Studio Rock, Studio Pop , Studio Prog)
    all work inside AD2. I believe I did have to do a software update on these through the XLN Online Installer
    The AD2 included with Platinum allows you your choice of three AdPaks ( basically three drumkits) , three MidiPaks , and three additional single kit pieces. 
     
    EDIT: SHould also mention I have both AD and AD2 installed.
     
    XLN have an online installer and this I find does an extremely good job at managing your XLN products. 
    post edited by StuH - 2016/09/06 14:31:46

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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 14:33:17 (permalink)
    I have AD1, still running Sonar X3. Bought Splat lifetime updates last week, but haven't installed yet. A while back, I bought the Indie Adpack for AD1. Will that work with AD2, or were there separate Adpacks that worked with AD1 that don't work with AD2?

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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 14:37:39 (permalink)
    mrpippy2
    I have AD1, still running Sonar X3. Bought Splat lifetime updates last week, but haven't installed yet. A while back, I bought the Indie Adpack for AD1. Will that work with AD2, or were there separate Adpacks that worked with AD1 that don't work with AD2?



    Yes. See here https://www.xlnaudio.com/support 

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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 14:58:04 (permalink)
    This has already been described but maybe this will help folks understand a bit better (it is a little confusing).
     
    Also I am basing this on my previous knowledge of included AD1/2 packages that have been included with Sonar. Somathing MAY have changed since but I think this infor is still current.
     
    Addictive Drums (version 1) was a standalone package that included 3 built in kits (AFAIK). You could BUY extra kits and expansion packs called ADPaks (sample libraries for other kits) and MIDIPaks (genre specific MIDI loop libraries... some of which were designed/recorded to complimet specific kits but can be used however the user wishes).
     
    Addictive Drums 2 (the current version included in Sonar Pro and Platinum) does NOT include any kits on it's own. AFAIK you cannot even own the AD2 engine on it's own. What you do now is you BUY one of the ADpaks (sample library of a specific kit) and the AD2 engine comes with it. Not sure if it comes with an accompanying MIDIPak but you can buy MIDIaks separately as well.
     
    So previously you bought Addictive Drums and it came with 3 kits. Now you buy the kits and you get Addictive Drums.
     
    In the Sonar AD1 packages you just got AD1 with the included kits.
     
    Now what you get is essentially is a redemption code/coupon with your Sonar Platinum purchase for 3 ADpaks and 3 MIDIpaks and the AD2 engine comes free with those "Paks".
     
    Any extra packs you bought for Addictive Drums 1 will not load in Addictive Drums 2 (AFAIK) nor will the kits that were included with AD1. TO make those previous kits/purchases work in AD2 you need to pay a fee to "upgrade" those kits so they work in AD2 (but it will migrate ALL your kits for one price IIRC... including the original AD1 kits).
     
    Otherwise you would have to buy each kit individually again to use in AD2 (at more expense) including the original AD1 kits (which are now also for sale separately for AD2).
     
    So in your scenario you would (again only AFAIK) have to PAY to upgrade your INDIE kit Pak to work in AD2... but it would migrate any other AD1 kits you have as well.
     
    Otherwise you could use one of your Sonar included AD2 ADpak rebates to redeem the AD2 version of the INDIE kit if you don't want to pay the all out AD1 kit upgrade fee.
     
    It's really quite a twisted and convoluted upgrade logic but whatever. It's a decent program and nothing stops you from using AD1 and the older kits whenever you want. You just can't run them through the new engine which isn't, IMO, a huge deal. That's why I focused on getting more unique kits with my redemption codes.
     
    What I'm wondering now thoug is since I've upgraded again (to lifetime) whether I get an EXTRA 3 AD2 codes for this purchase?
     
    I haven't checked yet but that would be wicked cool. Then I could get my grubby paws on those Jazz packs I was ont he fence about last time.
     
    Cheers.
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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 15:34:43 (permalink)
    Beepster, I think you are on the money.
    I apologise if I steered anyone in the wrong direction.
    I got fooled up because I purchased AD shortly before the release of AD2, and XLN offered the free upgrade in my case.
    Sorry folks. 

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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 15:57:22 (permalink)
    StuH
    Beepster, I think you are on the money.
    I apologise if I steered anyone in the wrong direction.
    I got fooled up because I purchased AD shortly before the release of AD2, and XLN offered the free upgrade in my case.
    Sorry folks. 




    It really is quite confusing. Not sure what the heck XLN were thinking when they came up with it but I guess it gets infinitely less confusing for those who NEVER had (nor ever will have) AD1. Then it's just "Pick your kits and go".
     
    I guess AD2 is kind of like IK amp sims or Kontakt player stuff... or something like that. You buy the content, not the platform.
     
    Meh.
     
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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 20:24:23 (permalink)
    It's still not clear to me so let me try to get the answer I want to hear.

    I originally got AD2 when I bought X3,
    It included Studio Prog, Studio Pop and Studio Rock.

    Last week I got Platinum Lifetime  ... and AD2 runs in Platinum with the 3 original kits.
    Since (supposedly) "Platinum includes a voucher for 3 kits, 3 midi packs and 3 kit pieces of your choice",

    do I now get to choose 3 more *additional* kits ...
    and 3 midi packs and 3 kit pieces?
    if no then
    is it because my original 3 kits count as the 3?
    if yes then
    can I dump any or all of them and get 3 new kits?

    Also, are my choices limited or can I get
    Session Percussion
    Modern Jazz Sticks
    Modern Jazz Brushes
    ???

    Thank you!




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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 20:32:07 (permalink)
    Edit: I realized I semi misunderstood the previous question/situation. However that's because of the mention of those three kits which were NOT included in the X3 included AD2. They were part of AD1. X3 originally had AD1 then midway through it's lifecycle AD2 came out and replaced AD1 in X3. Just to make things even more confusing. lol
     
    Original post...
     
    No... those 3 kit vouchers would be the only three kits you get (in total) for AD2. No kits are actually included in AD2... you have to buy/redeem/pick them (unlike AD1 where it came preloaded with 3 kits but you could not choose them... to get extras you had to pay for the expansion paks).
     
    The three kits you already have in AD1 will not work in AD2 as is but you can just keep using AD1 if you want to use those sounds. If you want access to those kits in AD2 you have to pay an upgrade fee OR use your vouchers to get them OR pay for them individually.
     
    Since you already have those kits in AD1 I would recommend getting something new with your vouchers (unless you are hellbent on having those kits in AD2).
     
    Yes you can use your vouchers for the kits you listed.
     
    Hopefully that's a little clearer. If not my apologies. As I said... it's confusing.
     
    Cheers.
    post edited by Beepster - 2016/09/06 21:13:59
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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 20:35:31 (permalink)
    Unless something has changed you should be able to choose: 3 more *additional* kits ...
    and 3 midi packs and 3 kit pieces
     
    Choices are not limited AFAIK. Just redeem the AD2 key in Command Center with XLN.
     
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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 20:49:38 (permalink)
    Beepster
    No... those 3 kit vouchers would be the only three kits you get (in total) for AD2.
    The three kits you already have in AD1 will not work in AD2 Cheers.



    I got AD2 with X3 not AD1. I've never seen AD1.
    My current original 3 (old got them with X3) do work in Platinum in AD2.

    So maybe now you can see my confusion since telecharge 'seems' to have given me the answer I want to hear.

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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 20:50:39 (permalink)
    telecharge
    Unless something has changed you should be able to choose: 3 more *additional* kits ...
    and 3 midi packs and 3 kit pieces
     
    Choices are not limited AFAIK. Just redeem the AD2 key in Command Center with XLN.
     


    I'll have a look at CCC and the "redeem" thing.
    Thanks!
     

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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 20:54:50 (permalink)
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    I'll have a look at CCC and the "redeem" thing.
    Thanks!


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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 20:57:06 (permalink)
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    No... those 3 kit vouchers would be the only three kits you get (in total) for AD2.
    The three kits you already have in AD1 will not work in AD2 Cheers.



    I got AD2 with X3 not AD1. I've never seen AD1.
    My current original 3 (old got them with X3) do work in Platinum in AD2.

    So maybe now you can see my confusion since telecharge 'seems' to have given me the answer I want to hear.




    AFAIK AD2 never came with those kits. You would have had to specifically pick them. At least that's my understanding of it. Not sure how you got those kits otherwise. Freaky.
     
    I was an "early-ish" adopter of X3 so I got AD1 with those three kits.
     
    I edited my previous post though because I misunderstood what you were saying (because you mentioned those three kits).
     
    Very odd so I'll shut up now.
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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 21:15:35 (permalink)
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    No... those 3 kit vouchers would be the only three kits you get (in total) for AD2.
    The three kits you already have in AD1 will not work in AD2 Cheers.



    I got AD2 with X3 not AD1. I've never seen AD1.
    My current original 3 (old got them with X3) do work in Platinum in AD2.

    So maybe now you can see my confusion since telecharge 'seems' to have given me the answer I want to hear.




    AFAIK AD2 never came with those kits. You would have had to specifically pick them. At least that's my understanding of it. Not sure how you got those kits otherwise. Freaky.
     
    I was an "early-ish" adopter of X3 so I got AD1 with those three kits.
     
    I edited my previous post though because I misunderstood what you were saying (because you mentioned those three kits).
     
    Very odd so I'll shut up now.




    It did come with them.
    I had them last year as soon as I got X3.

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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 21:17:00 (permalink)
    telecharge
    Unless something has changed you should be able to choose: 3 more *additional* kits ...
    and 3 midi packs and 3 kit pieces
     
    Choices are not limited AFAIK. Just redeem the AD2 key in Command Center with XLN.
     


    You nailed it!
    I just got Jazz Sticks, Jazz Drums and Session Percussion!

    Thank you tytytyty !
     

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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 21:29:41 (permalink)

    You nailed it!
    I just got Jazz Sticks, Jazz Drums and Session Percussion!

    Thank you tytytyty !
     





    Let me know what you think of Session Percussion, I have been wanting to click the buy button on that adpak for awhile now.
     
     

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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/06 22:35:56 (permalink)
    StuH

    You nailed it!
    I just got Jazz Sticks, Jazz Drums and Session Percussion!

    Thank you tytytyty !

    Let me know what you think of Session Percussion, I have been wanting to click the buy button on that adpak for awhile now.



     
     
    It was a no brainer once I saw this video. :-)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3IJv1eEjMU

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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/07 10:18:36 (permalink)
    Once I install Sonar Platinum and get AD2, will I be forced to get all 3 ADpaks immediately before I can use AD2? Or can I just get one, and get the other 2 later on whenever I want to?
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    Re: Help understanding what's included in Platinum Addictive Drums 2016/09/07 10:42:43 (permalink)
    Yes, you can start with just one ADPak, and the option to pick two more will remain 'on file' in your XLN account.

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