Help with synth bass

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danamartin
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2013/04/01 21:49:03 (permalink)

Help with synth bass

Hey guys. We are using Sonar X2 Producer on a Windows 7 Dell. My 13 year old son Elijah, is struggling with a synth issue that I'm unable to help him with. I would like to appeal to you Sonar pros for some help. He writes "I've been unable to produce that Dubstep wobble bass sound, and I've been needing help. I've used a few sounds that have shown promise, but I still can't create it. I'm mostly using Dimension pro for this. Thank you in advance for your help".
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    robert_e_bone
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    Re:Help with synth bass 2013/04/01 22:29:43 (permalink)
    I did a quick Google search, using the following terms: Dubstep wobble bass

    I got back several links, including YouTube and other tutorials on how to create that sort of bass sound.  Even though some of the tutorials are for particular synth programs (Massive, etc.), the principles discussed in the videos are universal for creating that sound.  It's basically a bass sound with an additional LFO modulation, and is discussed in several of the links found by the above Google search terms.

    Please post back if that doesn't help you.

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    Re:Help with synth bass 2013/04/01 22:41:50 (permalink)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxfm26TGjlc Z3ta is still included with vanilla X2 yes? You're still going to spend some time learning the basics of synths and the terminology, but ... there you go.
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    Re:Help with synth bass 2013/04/01 23:19:52 (permalink)
    Pentagon would be another good synth for this type of sound. You probably wont find a preset but with a bit of knob twiddeling you could easily get there. Or you may come up with the next fad sound that every one wants to emulate.

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    Re:Help with synth bass 2013/04/01 23:28:58 (permalink)
    I really appreciate all your help. I'm a 1000 year old audio geek and know doodle about synths. Much appreciated.
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    Re:Help with synth bass 2013/04/02 01:48:41 (permalink)
    I know nothing about Dubstep but a google search explained one way the wobble bass sound is accomplished is by using a LFO to modulate the cutoff on a low pass filter. If this is correct you can do this in DimPro by turning on the Low Pass filter (I picked LP 1p) and modulating the cutoff with the LFO in the modulators area.  Load a bass from the program browser then turn on the FILTER by setting it to LP 1p or LP 2p, LP 4p etc.. and adjusting the CUTOFF and RESO (resonance). In the MODULATORS area click on CUT (cutoff) then turn on the LFO (Status On). I set the Sync to 1/8 then tried 1/4, and picked a sine wave (you can change the wave forms with left and right mouse in the graph area). I had to turn up the LFO Depth setting really high. Just keep turning the Depth up until it wobbles. :-)
    You can play around with the settings until you get a sound you like.
    post edited by rabeach - 2013/04/02 02:27:05
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    Re:Help with synth bass 2013/04/02 08:41:17 (permalink)
    danamartin


    I really appreciate all your help. I'm a 1000 year old audio geek and know doodle about synths. Much appreciated.

    SCREW the mammals - there are still lots of us dinosaurs puttering about.


    Synthesized sound starts with some sort of waveform, and then it gets modified over time, through various techniques.  The basics are universal - different synths approach things differently, but often it's a matter of this knob or that knob, as you move from one product to another.


    I did a Google search using the following terms: 'synthesis technique tutorial' and got a zillion results back.  just check out some of the video clips and you should be able to get a bit more up to speed on it all.

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    Re:Help with synth bass 2013/04/02 11:51:41 (permalink)
    There are some free VSTi's available which are good for wobbly dubstep sounds:

    REDiZER1
    http://ohdeo.com/2009/08/11/redizer1-free-dubstep-bass-glitchy-super-synth/

    Blood One
    http://ohdeo.com/2009/08/11/blood-one-free-vsti-synth-grime-dubstep-electro-minimal-idm-industrial/

    Elek7ro:
    http://kunz.corrupt.ch/products/tal-elek7ro

    But as mentioned above, check out the myriad of online tutorials (YouTube or otherwise) which give step by step instructions. 

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