Hey Bapsi...you tried the WAVES NLS yet??

While I am not bapu I live close to him. That seems as good a reason as any to chime in here.... :D Anyway, I like NLS quite a bit. Seems to take my mixes somewhere I could not on my own, filling out that mysterious low to low mid range quite nicely (using Nevo). I am wishing I had not tried it. I will have a hard time not ponying up the plastic in 5 days when the demo runs out. :)

bapu

 Myolpal.

Not yet. My plan is to take a project that I have currently using VCC on and try it on that.

Probably in a few days.

I too am interested in what your esteemed opinion is on this and how the NLS compares to VCC in the real world.  From the promo videos I have seen and heard, it seems to have a more noticeable effect than the VCC, but this could be the way it is being driven, grouped or hyped in those videos [like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PGwprqEup0 ].  I am especially interested in the Mike Hedges EMI desk setting(s).  So, do let us know what your discerning ears (and all inclusive Mercury bundle privileges) have to offer.

Be sure to check my videos ..;)

http://www.youtube.com/user/ZozillaThaGreat?feature=mhee 

Very interesting plugin ....if you used console ...you will enjoy ...if not you will maybe not find it cool ....

I will post my "findings" as soon as I have them.

The EMI console would be great to have in the arsenal......didn't realize that Hedges owned it

VCC is more than placebo but it certainly is subtle. I like it. I think it's like salt. Just a pinch and your mix sounds just a bit... more. Or you can stack a bunch of VCCs in series on each track and buss if you like MSG. I haven't tried the Waves NLS.

Myolpal.

I am doing that (VCC on all tracks and busses). That's the project where I'll then use NLS to "compare".

I would be interested in a comparison like this. Forgive me if I act familiar with you guys as I have lurked here forever and you seem like friends even tho you don't know me from adam. Anyhow, I have set of .wav files you can check out for comparison of the 3 NLS emulations. I left it in wav format for best fidelity, but it is metal so forgive me for that, lol... I hope you don't mind me posting in here but this seems like the most relevant discussion. http://www.krankzilla.com/Sounds.html

/me waves at Bapu from Simi Valley. Thanks for the welcome Bapu. Those files are kinda slammed, I did an RMS check on the larger song that they are a part of and the RMS was around -10 so I figured I was ok, but these sections are around -8. Also, synth bass, etc, I make no proclomations of being a pro, just a guy who spends way too much money on this stuff... :)

P.S. I will check out your stuff as well... :)

I really passed some time on those ...NLS VCC and satson ...and here's my final thoughts ...

First i had and still have the chance to use real analog consoles ;)  http://www.formation-audio-sae.com/?tag=jeezo
You see me and Bangladesh chilling  ....around ...and have been a heavy ssl 4000g ..user ..

 I first got satson , cool priced , and a super gainstaging tool + filter ...when i hear a mix without and with i haer nothing but frequencies job ....the crosstalk is non appaernt at all ....on buses vinatge = bass and hig boost ...lol loudness on my old pionneer or marantz ...i mean nothing i can't do with eq's ...

So i went VCC because  of , i admit tjis crazy GS buzz around : tried it and : WTF !   of course i hear the effects ...when drived like hell ...and what i hear ? nothing like the neve or the ssl ...i like the trident ...api aslo cool ....Crosstalk ? same non existant for me ...boost of db's , frequencies changing giving the perception of a mix change (witch is normal as frequency impact the imaging on the y axies and the preceved loudness !)

So i tried NLS : sound wise .....this really really sound like what i experienced SSL na NEVE ....it always made me laught when people talikng about neve conlose dirt or color as those are one of the most clean babies around !! 18 db of room (real console) ...same feeling on the plugin ...

SSL ...everything sitting very easuy on the mix ...why , because of a certain low and hig roll off resulting on more focused sounds !!! , typical easy saturation that we loved on drums !!

EMI : ? can't say nothing on the harware ...

Now what's make NLS more convicing ? 2 things : 

First : Emulation of channel and the dual mono behavior !! i really expereinced that for real and i was about to fight ban enginer because at 15 years olds i diodn't understood why he cahnged my kikc !! and he was like : i did nothing , no eq , no comp ect ....and iwa s like "this is not the same kik , more boomy , saturation ect ...)

Second : Bus instances same , some phasing/stereo stuff happens ...for reall ....audible and can be subtile or notceable as you drive 

All i one , NLS seems to nail "THE CHARACTERISTICS" more !  sound+imaging .the workflow is better 

If you guyz are used to cleanest ..it might be bizarre ....it's also too much on already "colored/saturedated material" ....use ot subtily and think numbers not quantity ......a lot of smooth tweak instaed of a big turn knobility ;)

m 3 cts

lol i really don't encourage purchase at all .....i just show stuff i try ;)

well i tend to feel better with the less plugin i use ....for your guitar ....well ssl is to skip .....depends on the type of guitar and the sound you're looking for but a regular plugin can give much more color in that case and more appropriate ...

if it was sound only , just by using the softube sat knob or some crazy like FabFilter Saturn can bring what ever you need ....but i use it specially for what it does to the phase and stereo witch give room in the mix in one way ....

yorolpal


Don't fear the hiss:-)

In all of it's 64bit Digitally process glory?

Yeah you hit the nail on the head many times there Zo - thanks for the videos and trying to keep that thread at GS objective. What a crazy place!

bapu

yorolpal


Don't fear the hiss:-)

In all of it's 64bit Digitally process glory?

Yup...it's "hissier"