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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/27 09:30:48
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/27 10:39:12
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/27 11:00:44
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/27 11:48:02
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/27 12:03:54
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You're watching video shot on a video camera (whether a "propper" camera or cell phone camera) running at 24 fps. The hose is being shaken by the speaker at 24Hz... It's the old "wheels on the cart turning backwards" when viewed on film effect. Looks pretty.
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/27 14:23:03
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I was asking if you thought it might be a rolling shutter phenomenom. Sort of like this, but different: http://vimeo.com/5934808 best regards, mike
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/27 16:06:33
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☄ Helpful
How come all of you (who should have already seen this when I posted in a couple of weeks ago here) think this is a trick?
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/27 18:22:04
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I got stuck on step one: "secure hose to speaker". I'm reluctant to tape a hose to a paper-cone speaker, so I'm thinking I should use my ADAMs, whose woofers are a man-made composite and therefore more likely to be waterproof. Yeh, that's the ticket. Oh, wait -- they don't go down to 24Hz...I'll have to throw some water on the subwoofer and see if the cone dissolves. When I was teaching electronics in another life, we used to do a demonstration wherein we'd modulate a Bunsen burner with audio (you need a tube amp for a high-voltage signal). Sound would come out of the flame! Very cool, even if not exactly hi-fi.
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/28 07:33:28
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Can we scale that up and use it as a pyro technique for stage shows? :-)
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/28 08:11:39
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Mike, I had to look up rolling shutter. No, it's a pure strobe effect.
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/28 08:15:59
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Hi Karyn, Thanks for thinking about it and replying. best regards, mike
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/28 08:19:47
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You're most welcome Mike. I'll submit my invoice via TheBouy Ltd. as usual.
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/29 23:34:02
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Nope McQ, that's not what I'm up to.
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/29 23:38:11
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bapu Nope sharke, that's not what I'm up to. Sharke?
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/29 23:43:17
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craigb bapu Nope sharke, that's not what I'm up to. Sharke? DOH!!!! As you can see, I'm a bit rusty at this postin' thang.
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/30 08:19:06
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ouch! Where did the love go?
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/30 09:00:35
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Karyn You're watching video shot on a video camera (whether a "propper" camera or cell phone camera) running at 24 fps. The hose is being shaken by the speaker at 24Hz... It's the old "wheels on the cart turning backwards" when viewed on film effect. Looks pretty. I've heard this theory on TV before. It's called the "reverse rotation effect". Wheels, propellers, helecopter blades, etc. have it. The theory is I don't believe it. Why? I see this in real life with the naked eye. But then, I see a lot of things others don't... It is not a matter of "frameeffect" but of illumination or how light reflects off of an object in motion. What you see is the real thing. No hoax. No gimmics. Never mind! I was thinking of something else entirely closely related.
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/30 09:11:35
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With respect, I agree with Karyn. What wasn't mentioned, but is easy to infer, is that the digital video was shot at 24fps progressive scan. The question I had was whether the camera used a rolling shutter or a "global shutter". The shallow depth of field suggests that the camera has a large image sensor so it's either a DSLR or one of the nice new large format video cameras. The examples shown are 24hz synced to the frame rate. 23hz creates the forward movement effect 25hz creates the reverse effect The issue about the shutter technology would concern some nuance of how the sync effect appears but the general premise that there is a sync point and a less than, and greater than frame rate that creates the effect, the premise that Karyn put forth, is a correct explanation. best regards, mike
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2013/03/30 09:15:38
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
2013/03/30 12:35:58
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soens EXPLAINING AN ILLUSION Rakesh Mohan Hallen "To sum up, Bapu." Fixed.
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Re:Hey Bitflipper I think I found out what bapu is up too
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