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Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
I find it real telling that panup's Sonar Mod thread has more page views (currently 29,404) than both the Official Sticky X1b Patch thread and the Official Sticky Quickfix thread combined (currently 21,400 and 2621 respectively, total of 24,021). This is telling me that Sonar users want to customize X1 by themselves, and not be told what colors are "industry standard" or whatever the reasoning was behind the X1 color scheme. Please allow any and all colors to be changed easily! Keep up the hard work, and thanks for listening... 
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/11 20:16:59
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Here here A1. Totally agree. If nothing else CW can be sure there is a lot of interest in doing just that.
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 00:11:52
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As the tonal colors of our music are the harmonies of our minds, the visuals before our eyes, greatly influence the outcome of our creativity. I can only hope we get full GUI color customization back. Each of us has our own moods, different days require different colorsets. My thanks to those on the outside, who understand us, and have helped us feel the groove again. Somedays gray/silver is cool, but sterile, other days, the sun will shine and the world truly is a colorful place to live. Sonar is still, my favorite DAW but sometimes, like a woman, she needs a new dress to feel pretty Anway, just a little humor,  Don Belisle Sonar 8.5.3 - X1b
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 00:18:22
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not to quench your point but Panup's thread has been alive a bit longer with repeat visits. not to take away from his great work.
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 00:31:37
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 00:38:09
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F@ker
not to quench your point but Panup's thread has been alive a bit longer with repeat visits. not to take away from his great work.
You're not quenching my point but making it for me. A normal thread that old would have been on page 25 of the forums by now. But it keeps coming back to the top and staying there like it's a sticky BECAUSE of repeat visits by X1 users wanting to change the look of the software (and panup's tireless dedication).
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 01:18:46
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 01:36:25
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thank god for panu.and let there be customization.
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 02:58:33
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I think my favourite colour scheme was Sonar 4. I miss having coloured buttons like the old console view button used to be green. I can't speak for others but I know myself that colour is the first thing I see. It's much quicker than interpreting an icon or reading text. I really dislike this grey miserable colour scheme (if indeed you can call it a colour scheme?) of X1. I'd like to be able to right click on a button and change it's colour, that would be a good way forward me thinks. So yes, I'm definitely with panup. Steve
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 03:05:20
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A1MixMan
I find it real telling that panup's Sonar Mod thread has more page views .....
I also find it real telling that no one from Cakewalk has commented on this thread yet. I just don't know exactly what that tells. But I bet they've agreed on some policy on this matter. PS: Hey A1mixman, maybe time for another poll?
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 03:17:05
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According to Scott Garrigus' book 'Sonar X1 Power' colours are customisable (page 13). Could this have been available in Scott's pre-release version (improbable) or was Scottt led to believe it would be there in the release version (probable). Did time run out on this feature, i.e. in terms of changing the code in 8.5 that allowed this? So maybe it will be sorted out in the next patch, now that vital functionality issues have been fixed.
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 03:51:15
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According to Scott Garrigus' book 'Sonar X1 Power' colours are customisable (page 13). Could this have been available in Scott's pre-release version (improbable) or was Scottt led to believe it would be there in the release version (probable). Did time run out on this feature, i.e. in terms of changing the code in 8.5 that allowed this? So maybe it will be sorted out in the next patch, now that vital functionality issues have been fixed.
I've got Scott's book on order, but not yet received it. Does he say that there is more customisation than there really is in the release version? Yes some customisation is available, but not nearly as much as many users want. The things tweaked by Panu's mods cannot be tweaked under the colour customisation options.
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 04:22:22
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A1MixMan
I find it real telling that panup's Sonar Mod thread has more page views .....
I also find it real telling that no one from Cakewalk has commented on this thread yet.
I just don't know exactly what that tells.
But I bet they've agreed on some policy on this matter.
PS: Hey A1mixman, maybe time for another poll?
It is strange, even a casual off comment by one of Cakewalks staff would have been expected. Either they are ignoring it hoping it will go away, or ignoring it realising it is beneficial in the short term for the software's growth. Rebellion 2011 style - if the software isn't good enough hack it yourself. :)
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 04:24:22
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A1MixMan
I find it real telling that panup's Sonar Mod thread has more page views (currently 29,404) than both the Official Sticky X1b Patch thread and the Official Sticky Quickfix thread combined (currently 21,400 and 2621 respectively, total of 24,021).
This is telling me that Sonar users want to customize X1 by themselves, and not be told what colors are "industry standard" or whatever the reasoning was behind the X1 color scheme.
Please allow any and all colors to be changed easily!
Keep up the hard work, and thanks for listening...
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 04:27:03
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I suspect the latter. They don't strike me as delusional people generally, and it doesn't seem like this is going away - rather, it's an indication of something that the user base, or at least a decent chunk of it, is interested in. Not sure why they thought we wouldn't be, after giving us lots of colour and other customization options for years and then suddenly deciding that standardizing everything was the way to go. I think it's clearly a policy to allow it but not engage with it directly, which is fine. But there's no way in heck it hasn't been noticed, and I would imagine it's been discussed as well. What will come of it, only time will tell!
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 06:04:36
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The problem with the world today is you can have too much choice.
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 06:21:00
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A1MixMan
I find it real telling that panup's Sonar Mod thread has more page views (currently 29,404) than both the Official Sticky X1b Patch thread and the Official Sticky Quickfix thread combined (currently 21,400 and 2621 respectively, total of 24,021).
This is telling me that Sonar users want to customize X1 by themselves, and not be told what colors are "industry standard" or whatever the reasoning was behind the X1 color scheme.
I am all in favour of customization but excuse me if I point out that the reason for the page view differences probably has to do with the fact that once you have downloaded any of the patches you are unlikely to go back to those threads while panup's thread contains many new mods and is thus worth revisiting time and time again. Anyway, +1 for customization. Ok, carry on. :-) UnderTow
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 08:07:17
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+1 for customisation
and a further +1 to drop "those" threads further down the list...
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 10:17:20
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I personally don't customize.
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 10:25:59
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The problem with the world today is you can have too much choice.
I agree with that statement. One needs only look at desktop Linux with it's hundreds of different versions as a prime example of how too much choice leads to failure. I do like being able to change the colors, skins though so I too find it odd CW hasn't commented.
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 10:46:40
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Skyline_UK
According to Scott Garrigus' book 'Sonar X1 Power' colours are customisable (page 13). Could this have been available in Scott's pre-release version (improbable) or was Scottt led to believe it would be there in the release version (probable). Did time run out on this feature, i.e. in terms of changing the code in 8.5 that allowed this? So maybe it will be sorted out in the next patch, now that vital functionality issues have been fixed.
I actually asked Scott if he uses any of Panups mods and he said he has it, but hasn't installed it yet.... +7 for customization!!!
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 10:52:47
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One needs only look at desktop Linux with it's hundreds of different versions as a prime example of how too much choice leads to failure. Care to define failure in this context? Who does the failure of 'too much choice' belong to? As for a 2011 rebellion, the first GNU GPL Licence was 1991 so we're only 20 years behind the curve. Cake's lack of comment is only moderately interesting, I think they're scrupulously avoiding kicking the EULA in to the fan. They seem to be doing funny things in relation to licences elsewhere as the sources for LAME and Libsndfile (Open Source components used in Sonar) are not available for download (as they used to be: http://www.cakewalk.com/lgpl/default.asp This isn't a Roland thing, I don't think, because they acknowledge and publish all their sources as required: http://www.roland.com/support/gpl/ Child
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 10:56:24
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Yea that's all we need is more posts cluttering up the forum saying "Why aren't my faders turning orange?"
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 11:00:52
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donbelisle
As the tonal colors of our music are the harmonies of our minds,
the visuals before our eyes, greatly influence the outcome of our
creativity.
I can only hope we get full GUI color customization back.
Each of us has our own moods, different days require different colorsets.
My thanks to those on the outside, who understand us, and have helped
us feel the groove again. Somedays gray/silver is cool, but sterile, other days,
the sun will shine and the world truly is a colorful place to live.
Sonar is still, my favorite DAW
but sometimes, like a woman, she needs a new dress to feel pretty
Anway, just a little humor,
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Your post rings very true... There are days where I sit down at my DAW and open X1 and feel NOTHING...!!! I will then close it out and go back to my 8.5.3 Producer and find it very comforting... That visual is a big percentage of my creativity... Come on CW... Give us back our 'eye candy'...
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 11:03:21
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+1,000,000,000,000 for customization... FOREVER and EVER................. Unfortunately, after glorious times with SONAR's versions up to 8.5, X1 is just lacking that at the moment.... a paradox....!!! Cakewalk had better have this missing feature not last for long...... 
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 11:07:29
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Customization sucks. I stay in default scheme.
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 11:37:47
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According to Scott Garrigus' book 'Sonar X1 Power' colours are customisable (page 13). Could this have been available in Scott's pre-release version (improbable) or was Scottt led to believe it would be there in the release version (probable). Did time run out on this feature, i.e. in terms of changing the code in 8.5 that allowed this? So maybe it will be sorted out in the next patch, now that vital functionality issues have been fixed.
I've got Scott's book on order, but not yet received it. Does he say that there is more customisation than there really is in the release version? Yes some customisation is available, but not nearly as much as many users want. The things tweaked by Panu's mods cannot be tweaked under the colour customisation options.
I cover how to use the Colors dialog box. There is no distinction between what colors can be changed or not because there would be too many to list. Some can be changed and others can't. It's just a matter of trying them. But since the feature is still there and some colors can be changed, I covered how the feature works in the book. Scott -- Scott R. Garrigus * Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series: http://www.garrigus.com/ * Author of the Cakewalk Sonar ProAudioTutor video tutorial series: http://www.proaudiotutor.com/ * Publisher of the DigiFreq free music technology newsletter: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/ * Publisher of the NewTechReview free consumer technology newsletter: http://www.newtechreview.com/newtechreview/
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
2011/04/12 11:43:27
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panup
Customization sucks. I stay in default scheme.
LMAO Next thing you know Benstat will be saying he doesn't use Sonar Plus!
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Re:Hey Cakewalk, Check This Out
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