timidi
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Hi Pass
I've pretty much stuck with sonitus eq mostly out of habit but have noticed recently that what i thought I was cutting with the high pass hardly does much at all. Still lots of mud down there clogging up the mix.
Does X1's high/low pass eq curves work any better at doing what it's supposed to do?
Any other options?
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The Maillard Reaction
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Yes, the Pro Channel EQ has a multi order hi pass filter that has a much steeper slope than Sonnitus EQ.
It's one of the very few places where the two seem to actually differ.
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timidi
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Thanks Mike. Now if only PC would work in 8.5....
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Did you try setting all the sonitus EQ's nodes to High Pass, and their frequencies to the same one? That will give you a fairly steep HP filter.
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SCorey
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More specifically... When I need a severe HP filter, I set all 6 Sonitus bands to Highpass, 25 Hz, 1.1 Q. I can then lasso the nodes in the eq graph and slide them around to where I need them. You can also play with the Q for steeper/shallower cut.
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The Maillard Reaction
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I hesitated to explain this Corey.
Hats off to you for going the extra mile.
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Pull up the "Telephone" preset in the Sonitus EQ for an example of using layered filters to achieve very steep slopes.
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Rain
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FWIW, I asked a similar question on Logic's board when I started working with the bundled EQ - I noticed it left quite a bit of bass compared to the EQ in TeamDNR's Mix Control, my other go to EQ at the time. I was told that it isn't a flaw, but that the Low Cut was based on the Butterworth type of filter, which isn't as radical as some others. Til then, I though a Low Cut was a low cut and that given the same settings, two different EQ should achieve reasonably similar results. Apparently there's more to it. ;) As others have mentioned, using other bands to further clean the low ends works.
post edited by Rain - 2012/02/22 15:24:31
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timidi
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Thanks Corey and all. I'll try layering some nodes. I've used 2, but never gone over that.
To experiment, I low pass (steep) to like 100 hz and then do the high pass and move them both around to see what's what. Just sayin.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Hi Rain,
I'm very weak with EQ math, but usually there are two considerations, Filter Type and Filter order. Not all types are all orders but some types can be stacked into higher orders.
For example you may stack Butterworth filters into a multi order filter and the slope becomes steeper.
The ProChannel has a multi order hi pass and Sonitus does not, but you can easily use the other nodes in Sonitus to stack up a custom multi order example.
This is what Corey and Bit have referred too.
The same basic ideas apply to the EQs you mentioned.
Maybe some one will elaborate on or correct anything necessary in what I have written. I hope they will. :-)
best regards,
mike
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FabFilter Micro is cheap and a great tool for this (among many other things). www.fabfilter.com
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mike_mccue
Hi Rain,
I'm very weak with EQ math, but usually there are two considerations, Filter Type and Filter order. Not all types are all orders but some types can be stacked into higher orders.
For example you may stack Butterworth filters into a multi order filter and the slope becomes steeper.
The ProChannel has a multi order hi pass and Sonitus does not, but you can easily use the other nodes in Sonitus to stack up a custom multi order example.
This is what Corey and Bit have referred too.
The same basic ideas apply to the EQs you mentioned.
Maybe some one will elaborate on or correct anything necessary in what I have written. I hope they will. :-)
best regards,
mike
Thanks Mike. :) As weak as you may think it is, it's still a hundred times better than mine. I grasp the minimum of knowledge as I go. I've tried to read on filter types but I couldn't force myself too. Plus my wife already thinks I'm a total geek, so imagine if she caught me studying filter types and filter orders... ;)
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