High Notes in Staff View are Out of Sight

I have some midi piano tracks with some high notes in them.  When displayed in the Staff View those notes are not displayed (they are above the top edge of the staff view window).  You can't scroll them into view.  Making the window taller does not help.  About the highest note that can be displayed is a C8 (that's C 3 octaves above middle C or 2 octaves above the C in the treble cleff staff).

Is there a way to move the staff down so that the high notes are displayed?

--Larry

Hi Larry,
Writing some Maynard arrangements?

Welcome to the Staff View. 

konradh


This has frustrated me for years.  i would have to transpose pinao chords down and octave, edit them, and then transpose them back up.

I understand all the arguments about a sequencer v full notation, but this is clearly a simple bug a programmer should be able to fix quickly.  All that is required is resizing the window.

You'd think wouldn't you? Because that would be the "expected behavior," by which I mean the way people instinctively expect software to work. I first got the feeling that the Sonar team are a bit lacking in this respect when I realized that you cannot shuffle the Multidock tabs around as needed. I mean that's how you expect tabbed windows to behave these days, right? You click and drag them into the order you want (a la the tabs in your browser etc). But not Sonar. Same feeling I got when I realized that my mouse's "back button" doesn't work in the Sonar browser, or upon seeing long menus that cannot be scrolled with the scroll wheel (the drum maps etc). I get the feeling that they're still using an outdated GUI framework (in much the same way as they're still using outdated forum software). 

Larry,

That's way up there for sure.
I saw in in Detroit years ago, pretty amazing.
Curious, is there an 8va symbol available in Sonar?

Dear all, there is no way to see the high notes unless you create a false midi track before the track you actually need, then choose both tracks for staff view. now you can see your aquired midi track pushed down in the view which will let you see the notes.
 
Good luck,
 
 
Zeid

larrymcg
I have some midi piano tracks with some high notes in them.  When displayed in the Staff View those notes are not displayed (they are above the top edge of the staff view window).  You can't scroll them into view.  Making the window taller does not help.  About the highest note that can be displayed is a C8 (that's C 3 octaves above middle C or 2 octaves above the C in the treble cleff staff).

Is there a way to move the staff down so that the high notes are displayed?

--Larry

The workaround (without having to create a dummy midi track above it) is to open the event list and you can edit the note's properties from there. 
 
JG

Guitarpima
If your wanting to edit scores like this your best option is to use another notation program. Finale and Sibelius are 2 of the most notable notation programs. Otherwise, your left with editing the higher parts in the PRV. (piano roll view)

Or maybe Cubase, Logic or Protools?

Uh Oh...
:p

I know, I'm a trouble maker.

soens
"Out of Sight"???  That's like... Far Out, Man! ...and groovy, too. Staff View has some serious limitations as it is really intended for reference only, not serious note building. Steve

Really? They sure did go through a lot of trouble making it possible to add notes then. I think the intention was to create midi parts by using staff view.

soens
...as it is really mostly intended for reference only, not serious note building.
 
(fixed!)

How do you know its intended for reference and what is serious note building? All we have been requesting since the dawn of the universe is a functional staff view. 
 
There are a number of people who argue this is a DAW and not notation software. Well if we consider just 2 of the competitors in the "DAW" field we find in Pro Tools 11 you can compose music using notation tools in the built-in Sibelius Score Editor.
Also have a look at the Compose feature in Cubase
http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/cubase/what_you_get.html
 
Now if Pro Tools the so called industry standard DAW can have a useful notation function built into it, I say DAWs do have notation scoring included.

jsg
  No DAW has a staff view that is comparable to a pro notation program but that isn't it's purpose.  

If you look at my previous post you will see DAWs do have notation:
"There are a number of people who argue this is a DAW and not notation software. Well if we consider just 2 of the competitors in the "DAW" field we find in Pro Tools 11 you can compose music using notation tools in the built-in Sibelius Score Editor."

@jsg- That was my point (thus the word "serious") though somewhat awkwardly presented, I suppose.
 
It was only my opinion/impression/experience on the matter.
 
But then my opinion also tends to lean toward the direction that there's absolutely no point in rehashing an already beat to death subject, as some want to do.