Holy Tones

Guys,
 
Another long long long post.
 
I’ve been involved in an offbeat project for about a month, donating service to a local church. I don’t believe in the basic premise, or am at best a skeptic, but volunteered whatever skills to make it real for the elect. Trying to keep an open mind. One of the greatest gifts in my life is to realize how dumb and clueless I am. My involvement was to help provide the math and come up with a presentation for the church as per their needs.
 
The preacher came by yesterday and said the congregation was rolling in the aisles, speaking in tongues, levitating off the floor, going into trances, getting saved, etc, etc. My efforts had gone where no vegetarian has gone before. His advice, before I burn in hell with the Pope, I need to get the results posted on the music forums. Laughed this all off, but woke up this morning and realized that I had at least refined the system to a degree which is not available anywhere else, far as I can tell (self pat on the back). Everything I can find on the web is in gross error. I done fixed it and made it easier by making the target keys more sane, like not playing in F#, G#, A#, whatever. A local church nearby smelled the brimstone and didn’t want to be left behind. They are now trying to get the choir and musicians washed in the blood by adopting this process. Donations are at stake.
 
Premise which maybe many of you are aware of is the hidden Solfeggio frequencies. Had to read books and get up to speed on this to help out the pack of heathens, but the claims are a rich romp thru conspiracy theories second only to the flat earth stuff. Supposedly, John Lennon did a Solfeggio shift in Imagine. Target to spread universal peace thru sacred sound vibrations. Supposedly, Paul McCartney was advised on his comeback that he would only be successful if he shifted away from the A 440 reference to the Holy Tones.
 
Google Solfeggio and you will see what the excitement is all about. Used heavily in new age chiropractic techniques with tuning forks over the vital centers to purify the “chakras”. No physical contact needed since it is so intense and healing so complete. Debate about which set of forks is better, but you can purchase keys to the kingdom for less than a hundred dollars. Even includes a plush carrying bag if you purchase wisely..
 
Anyway, I’ve posted a link to a zip download of a couple files. One a Word doc explaining the basics, and the second a spread sheet on how to tune a hardware or virtual synth to the Holy Tones. This is way more accurate than anything out there. Word doc has a real good trick how to tune a guitar more precise than the ear can hear using a floor fuzz box.
 
https://ufile.io/uyn6d
 
As per the chart, virtual synth tuning by pitch wheel is way more precise than Cent tuning on the hardware. Uses the Reaper free plugins if you are experimenting with this. Advantage is that cent tuning has a hundred increments per semitone. ReaControlMidi has over 4000 increments for the same range. Way more precise if you believe in any of the claims. Works well in Cakewalk. Download for free here.
 
https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/
 
What I’d appreciate from you guys is a second verification from anyone hard on into this concept. Think I got it nailed down, but if you find errors, please let me know. If I forked up in any of this, personal Salvation is compromised for the whole damned congregation. Wouldn’t want this in my karmic debt if I screwed up.
 
John

Jyoti,
 
Sorry if I was vague. I have no issue with our being able to generate the Holy Tones, or with your tuning forks which are likely quite precise. I have several digital tone generators that can produce the frequencies with precision.
 
The problem comes up when we try to play the tones on current hardware synthesizers or stringed instruments. The available references are in gross error in my opinion, close but not close enough if the theory is to work, and some not even close. Like trying to measure the thickness of a hair with a yard stick. I tried to correct and simplify the numbers as best we can do currently, and add a few references to easier keys to play in.
 
The 432 reference I put in the miscellaneous section was at the request of the church. This became a major issue of "oops" when I discovered what was going on and shared it with the minister, who asked me to keep it to the two of us, and help put a spin on the mess for collective well being (just a little white lie). I don't think anyone from the churches will be reading this, so will revisit this with a few facts and figures and tell you what came down. Their fiasco does however help explain how the Solfeggio frequencies work their magic. I think the whole thing is a bunch of elephant kaka, but I do fully support their approach and widespread use, down to the excitement around the conspiracy theories. Will be back with "the rest of the story" when I dig back up the numbers to show where the problem is.
 
Regarding the ReaControlMidi utility, it is not a tone generator or a standalone program. It is a utility that can be used inside Cakewalk or Sonar to get a more refined tuning of a virtual synthesizer. It works on pitch wheel modification which has much more refined divisions than tunings based on cents or midi increments. I added these numbers on the chart because of the idea of getting as close as possible to the claim. It is nothing you probably need. Your tuning forks will work just fine.
 
John

Jyoti,
 
Here is where it is from my perspective.
 
The Solfeggio frequencies are a non entity, off the deep end of anything rational or provable IMHO. Worthless from the standpoint of science and math on many levels. The 3-6-9 Pythagorean revelation and the extension of 10 finger based discovery of tones above and below the spectrum is only so much darkness taking ignorance into deeper pits of confusion. But if it floats your boat, all that matters. There are much better ways to tune up the “chakras” than some hovering tuning fork over a spinal node or a close approximation of a musical drone thru a guitar amp blasting the faithful into trance states.
 
I still will get empiric numbers so the rational amongst us can judge, but this is what went on with the church and what is spreading like wildfire. This is why I support fake news. Long live the distortion if it serves any degree of spiritual elevation or insight until we can get a few more genes expressed in in our primate structure. Long live the myth if our brothers and sisters believe and can get more in touch with inner space through the medium.
 
There was a young man who introduced the Solfeggios to the church, claiming he was the master of all knowledge regarding the hidden science. Cool, more power to the dude. The musicians were however having trouble with the constant retuning to get the holy frequencies so the benefits could be realized.
 
He did an in depth analysis before roll out and discovered that all the guitar retuning could be eliminated by retuning the synth to 432. This would allow access to all the Solfeggio frequencies once the strings were tuned to A 432 reference.
 
They did their thing and the results were only short of a miracle. Documented miracles. Incredible. There is plan now for a miracle revival tour, an album. Parent church organization has issued a blank check to make this real. Other local churches were blindsided by the chaos with mass defection to join the miracle congregation. 4 Square ministries has already contacted me to do a presentation to their choir.
 
Problem with this. The 432 retune required playing in multiple sharp keys to get all the Holy Tones, not friendly to a guitar banger with a three cord limit. The main guru dude was asked how to shift to something more friendly and he didn’t have a clue. This is where I was brought in to advise by the respected minister.
 
 
Roll out of 432 was beyond belief in the success and the miracles documented. 174 Hz to relieve pain witnessed the miracle of a man confined to a wheelchair with arthritis able to get up and walk for the first time in over 10 years. Pain gone.
 
Couples struggling with relationship problems, magically repaired and now they are in bliss when that frequency was droned.
 
Middle C, center of the heart blasted by the Holy Tones and the congregation elevated to the pinnacle of universal love (maybe except for the hindus and buddhists)
 
936 for the ultimate experience was met with visions of Jesus over the crowd and advanced spiritual trance states. Levitation was reported. The testimonies go on and on with the other frequencies.
 
Couple small problems I see as an outside heathen.
 
The young evangelist took a couple websites and misinterpreted everything. 432 reference had nothing to do with the Holy Tones. Middle C was an octave off the target of C 528. None of the Solfeggio frequencies even remotely intersected with what he instructed the church to do, but they believed miracles would happen, and they did.
 
This is why I support the myth. It is crap defective on the clinical side, but good things are happening for those that believe that good things will manifest, and they do with faith. Has nothing to do with science. That is all that matters for now.
 
John

I don't understand any of this, but rest asured, levitation and tounge speaking will happen no matter what frequencies or tones you play. The imagination of the religious are powerful so go ahead and just tell them you use magic notes and watch them all fly fly away while talking gobbledygook .... 

This is pushing the edges of the CoC regarding religious content.

Consequently I will lock it and remind you to be polite about all subjects irrespective of your personal position or opinion.

Thanks Wooks

I like the technical side of how some frequencies might affect us. I'm a real skeptic. The alternate A tuning frequency has been around for a long time. Lots of bands tune up or down a few cents. I can't say why. I play a lot in open D or DADGAD tuning. They say the key of A is the happy key. 
 
On the religious element I won't go there. I see no reason or rhyme to go there. Altered states figures into how music affects or can affect you. In the 60's it wasn't the frequencies that did it*ahem*. 
 
At any rate, probably more for the technical forums? The rest is a stretch IMHO. I do like good vibrations tho.

Thank you Wookiee for letting this discussion continue. This subject is so fascinating.

What an inspirational story. What an awful thing to live through. He definitely was spared for a higher purpose.

@Leadfoot.
 
Tesla's interest in resonance is most likely related to his experiments on the wireless transmission of power. Resonance is a major factor for efficiency. 

Leadfoot
I keep wondering if this subject was the impetus behind Nikola Tesla's work and theories about resonance. He apparently demolished a building by vibrating it at a certain frequency. I've even read that something partially disappeared when it was vibrated at the right frequency. If this can believed(and I'm not saying it can), it wouldn't be too far a stretch to assume that the right frequency can cause molecular changes in the body.
Or am I totally off the deep end???

If you were talking about electromagnetic radiation ... that would be a suntan.
 
If you were talking about mechanical waves, and presumably, that is what you meant ... the mythical brown note might fall into that category.
 

Thanks Jyoti,
 
Quickest way to do this is for you to download the HolyTones.RPP file from here:
 
https://ufile.io/w0vrh
 
This is a project file for the Reaper digital recorder. Download and install the demo from here:
 
https://www.reaper.fm/download.php
 
From Reaper, File > Open Project. Then select the HolyTones file.
 
There is a virtual keyboard already set up that you might have to make visible by View > Virtual Midi Keyboard
 
These are all the tools you need. ReaControlMidi and ReaTune showing the frequencies are on top. The virtual keyboard has computer keyboard letters that play the notes while the mouse changes the sliders. On the one track to the bottom left there is a green fx button. This will allow you to select ReaPitch to experiment with cents and semitones. Make sure that if you shift from ReaControlMidi to ReaPitch that the last one is set to zero or you will get the combination results of both.
 
Depending on your Yamaha model, you may be able to use that keyboard with the computer. Let me know the model number if you need help setting it up.
 
John
 
should add that the intervals are so small the sliders will fly past them. You can type in the numbers and not rely on the sliders

Starise 174 Hz is for pain control  I always started with the 174 fork to see if it worked.  If not then did more depth interview to get closer to the root cause with another single or combination of forks  174 was the patch  Something else might be the cure
 
John I appreciate the road map  I have one of the best advisers in the field to set this up  My computer nerd 11 year old grandson  Do you think you can crank out a tone for Starise  Here is where the real tests continue

Okay guys, here's the keys to the kingdom. HolyTones.zip:
 
https://ufile.io/dfa1v
 
This is an FXP patch for Jeskola sampler. Get the free sampler from here:
 
https://jeskola.net/xs1/
 
Install the vsti. Create a folder on the C drive called HolyTones. Extract the HolyTones.zip content to that folder and open with Jeskola.
The keyboard will now play the scale of the Solfeggios using white keys C3 thru D4.
 
The frequencies can also be played alone, so Starise can experiment with 174 wav to see if it helps with pain.
Wanted to add a link to one of many generic sites about the Solfeggios. The hyper links in the header share some of the history and claims.
 
https://attunedvibrations.com/528hz-tuning/
 
This was one of the more quantitative links trying to get the musical approach exact as possible in the face of technical challenges. I think my chart is better and closer, as close as we can get. Here's where I need second guess and verification in case I forked something up bad.
 
I'm a newcomer to this stuff, standing back from endorsing anything which is beyond my power to do so anyway. I just crunched the numbers so those that believe can get a better handle than what is so far available.
 
Jyoti has been up to her gills in this for a long time and has more experience with the applications and gathering actual results. I would ask for clarification on needing to laser the vibrations into a specific anatomical site which may be remote from the problem. People listening to a band are just hearing things, so what benefits are being lost by not zapping your middle left toe with a tuning fork to cure pain in a tooth.
 
Starise, if you were serious, nuke yourself with the 174 drone in the download and report back for better or worse.
 
John
 
 
 

John and Starise  Reaper Master Benjamin has gone through all your work approved of the tools used and verified everything  Benjamin mentioned an interpolation you may want to look at on some tones that give the same result over three or so divisions in the pitch wheel control but that what you have done is fine the way it is  I didnt think a 12 year old boy could even pronounce interpolate much less know how to apply
 
He tried to join the forum to help in the discussion but the forum is now closed to new members This is maybe an omen as to the longevity of anything here He remarked that he could not judge whether the healing system itself had any validity  He offered to use it on himself when he gets broken down and full of old age pain around 35 years old and will share the results with you John if you are still around
 
The Gregorian notes are claimed to interact with the “chakras”  Chakras are not an invention of the Solfeggio system as knowledge of them has been around as long as humans have  Depending on the diagnosis of a trained practitioner physical contact with some site may or may not be required
 
The original Solfeggios had the first six major chakras covered from tailbone to third eye  Math extension of the concept above the last classical frequency was easy to fit into the program because there was still the pineal plexus up for grabs The new 963 Hz found a home
 
There is a problem with 174 even as there is a problem with 285 both of which are newbies with no lower chakra to assign  Speculation went off the deep end with the hypothesis of a knee chakra  Then the thought that 174 delivered pain control by a lower octave effect on the throat chakra
 
I had to put the damnable forks somewhere to keep the patients happy so went with the Jyotishvarii “low as you can go” hypothesis that there were no major chakras further down on the body so might as well use the first center  It worked beyond expectation and delivered consistently for pain relief   I placed the 174 fork on the “Muladhara” or prostate center using the last bone in the tail access point  I could have used the anterior surface access midway between the anus and genitals but thought this would be too uncomfortable for most
 
To Starise the 174 frequency has to be aimed at the last bone in the coccyx for best result  When using a tuning fork it should be in contact with that bone just north of the anus
I was always paranoid with the request to apply the Solfeggios for pain after a slight mishap on the therapy table.
 
One portly lady came in for 174 treatment for fibromyalgia  I had this premonition that things were going to get bad  I was trying to press down on her butt to get the tuning fork on her coccyx  Going through all the blubber was a chore and you have to hold the fork as lightly as possible so as not to absorb too much energy in your hands  I was digging around trying to get the vibrating fork in the right place when it slipped I goosed her good and about sent her through the ceiling  As she was running around yelling all I could think of is that it was good I spent an extra 15 dollars and got the forks with a rounded end

I missed this earlier. You guys are serious about this. I can tell. I'll give it a shot. I definitely want the forks with the rounded ends. 
 
Thanks for sharing!