jimfogle
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Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
I've searched for Home Studio online documentation but have not been able to find it.
Can anyone provide a link to the online documentation?
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Zargg
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Re: Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
2017/03/11 15:10:17
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☄ Helpfulby jimfogle 2017/03/13 23:25:12
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Re: Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
2017/03/11 15:11:17
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☄ Helpfulby jimfogle 2017/03/14 17:50:51
It's supposed to be the same as the Sonar documentation as there are notes telling which versions the information applies to, but that's not always the case.
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Re: Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
2017/03/11 17:46:29
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It's a bit of a PITA as you are left on your own to figure out from the full version documentation what is there and what is not. The more I use HS the more I find features that are not there. Example, we all know there are many feature in Sonar like Audio Snap that open with keystrokes. I tried them all and nothing opens because it's none existent. There isn't even a Events list or a Synth Rack.
Sonars documentation is 3x more info than you need for HS. I'm fine with that being a user of both, but I can see this would be a confusing mess for a first time user trying to sort things out.
That said, I can see why it is what it is. It would take the person given the task a long time to either write from scratch or delete un-needed info to make a manual for HS. For $40 I look at it as, your on your own buddy, If you don't like it, upgrade and then you have full support. HS is still a bargain for a basic DAW and it is rock solid which is why I bought it for live performance..sorry, I just don't feel I could trust the full version for that.
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telecharge
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Re: Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
2017/03/11 20:08:30
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☄ Helpfulby jimfogle 2017/03/14 17:51:20
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For $40 I look at it as, your on your own buddy, If you don't like it, upgrade and then you have full support.
That's one way of looking at it, but I would submit that if Sonar Home Studio is supposed to be an introduction to the world of Sonar, the confusing documentation makes a poor first impression. Many of Cakewalk's competitors offer their intro versions at a similar or cheaper price point via sales and/or coupons.
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Re: Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
2017/03/12 11:05:37
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Perhaps they should index the documentation according to versions as well?
Would make it a lot easier to find info for the different products / versions, without having to look for signs that indicates which version things applies to.
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jimfogle
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Re: Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
2017/03/13 23:37:26
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Zragg,
Thank you for your responses. I've marked your initial response as "Helpful". I did not mark as "Answered" because I hope online documentation that is specific to Home Studio is available or will be available in the near future.
telecharge and Cactus Music,
Thanks to both of you for your responses.
Cakewalk Home Studio Product Manager,
Will you verify if Home Studio specific online documentation is, or soon will be available?
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Re: Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
2017/03/14 04:30:24
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As this is a peer to peer forum there's no way we would know what Cakewalk have in mind.
With the way the online manual is at present I can't see it changing. It has to be updated monthly And that isn't always done besides the entry at the beginning that refers specifically to the new release features.
Why not put in a feature request as making a mention here does not get any Cakewalk attention regarding the changes that you'd like to see.
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jimfogle
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Re: Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
2017/03/14 17:34:59
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As this is a peer to peer forum there's no way we would know what Cakewalk have in mind.
With the way the online manual is at present I can't see it changing. It has to be updated monthly And that isn't always done besides the entry at the beginning that refers specifically to the new release features.
Why not put in a feature request as making a mention here does not get any Cakewalk attention regarding the changes that you'd like to see.
Hi Mike, Cakewalk has a documentation department. I would think one part of the job description would be to ensure that new content matches the appropriate edition(s) named in the beginning of a section. If not it should be, if so then when mistakes are made and identified, correct them. I'd love to put in a feature request but the Features & Ideas forum section has been locked since December, 2016. The last Features & Ideas post says the section has moved to the Bakery. I have been unable to post in the Bakery because none of the predetermined posting tags match the intent of my post and a post must have tags. So I'm kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place. I do not know if Home Studio receives monthly updates. If it does not then it would seem appropriate to separate Home Studio online documentation from the other Sonar products that do receive updates just to avoid the kinds of mistakes you mentioned.
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telecharge
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Re: Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
2017/03/14 18:25:08
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☄ Helpfulby jimfogle 2017/03/17 16:36:05
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Re: Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
2017/03/17 17:09:53
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Hi telecharge,
Thank you for the link.
Gotta' love scook as he most likely knows what's contained in the website and how to search and navigate through the site better than anyone. The forum is truly fortunate to have him as a resource.
Will you please explain what AFAIK means. I've seen it before but do not understand what it means.
Of course I expressed my opinions and realize my opinions may not match the direction the product manager wants the product to go. I agree with your earlier comment how other software companies handle their introductory product.
I'm sorry to see Music Creator is going away. I like the product and it has served my needs. At the same time Home Studio is a worthy successor as the feature set almost exactly matches what I would have suggested for the next Music Creator.
I still would like to know if Home Studio receives monthly updates like the other Sonar products or will it receive updates if they are needed?
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Re: Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
2017/03/17 17:18:33
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jimfogle
Will you please explain what AFAIK means. I've seen it before but do not understand what it means.
Please forgive me as im not trying to be rude but... Did you try googling it ? The very first Google result= "" AFAIK means "As Far As I Know"
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Re: Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
2017/03/17 18:44:49
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☼ Best Answerby jimfogle 2017/03/18 18:57:16
As far as I can tell with my version, the updates have been few and far between ( if any). My versions is from November and just checking CCC that seems to be the latest version. I believe that was the first release.
I do see there is an update for local documentation so I'm downloading that and will see if it's HS specific.
I'm 100% fine with that as the reason I bought it was to not have to worry about updates and whatnot. I wanted a stable, solid version of Sonar to use for live performance and so far it seems that my hunch was correct, and that's what I got. I've yet to experience any bugs or weirdness.
Cakewalk really needs to go over all it's articles and help files. Searching the Knowledge base is pointless and you have to use Google. That ends up dragging up very old files that without paying attention could be absolutely dead wrong information that someone might think is the gospel truth.
This forum is defiantly about the best way to learn and ask questions but that does not help Home Studio owners much as it's not exactly peer to peer because most of us are using Sonar PLAT. Sonar Plat has possibly 80% more to it and with that 80% more ways to do things.
I've seen a lot of HS owners getting wrong answers to question because of this. So we're a very small group of people using this version at this point. I think it will grow and with that more help will arrive.
A specific manual would be great but I can only imagine it's a very low priority.
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Re: Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
2017/03/17 19:25:58
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In my opinion Sonars weakest link has always surrounded its documentation.
When the X series was released it published 1 manual with all the features in it (for all 3 versions. Pro / Studio / Essentials).
A good friend of mine was confused to no end. I had to tell him over and over that features were not included the base version of X1 essentials.
So it is no surprise to me that the platinum, home studio docs are mixed as well.
The best medicine is sitting down and learning basics and using the guide as a reference.
Doc of this magnitude (more than 500 pages) are there for look up references. not something you would read from front to back. Although hey if you do, more the power to ya.
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Re: Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
2017/03/17 19:31:00
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chuckebaby
Doc of this magnitude (more than 500 pages) are there for look up references. not something you would read from front to back.
+1 I remember reading (TF) manual front to back when I got SONAR 2.2 XL. Learned quite a bit, but also got confused with all that could be done (even then), and from which I understood next to nothing 
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Re: Home Studio Online Documentation Available?
2017/03/18 19:01:26
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chuckebaby
jimfogle
Will you please explain what AFAIK means. I've seen it before but do not understand what it means.
Please forgive me as im not trying to be rude but...
Did you try googling it ?
The very first Google result=
""AFAIK means "As Far As I Know"
No, chuckebaby, that is not a rude question to ask. I did not Google the abbreviation as many times abbreviations have multiple definitions. I felt it was better to admit my lack of knowledge and ask the person that used the abbreviation so I could learn the meaning of the abbreviation as it was used in the response. All I thank you for your responses. I now know Home Studio does not receive monthly updates and the documentation is mixed in with the all inclusive Sonar online documentation. Once again, thank you for your responses.
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